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reallyagi · 03-09-2010, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q!

I read in the Days Of Heaven has been processed with DVNR, what's that?
What's the diffrence with DNR and DVNR?
"Digital Vision's DVNR system was used for small dirt, grain, and noise reduction."
Does it mean that grain has been removed along with detail?

DVNR is image processing hardware and software made by Digital Vision. The term DNR relates to a wide range of image processing, from scratch and dust removal to grain reduction, etc.
So in this case, DVNR is the product name of a DNR system.

DNR has become a taboo phrase on this site, but it really depends on how it's implemented. You can use DNR to remove scratches but leave the film grain intact, or close to intact.

reallyagi · 03-09-2010, 03:40 PM

According to Digital Vision's website, DVNR is used for:

* ASC3 ME, film dust and dirt removal
* AGR4 ME, film grain and video noise reduction
* ACP, advanced colour correction
* ZOM, aspect ratio conversion and pan & scan processing
* PP, compression pre-processor
* IE, image enhancer
* BWF, brickwall filter
* ALS, anti-aliasing filter

rezpekt · 03-09-2010, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q!

I read in the Days Of Heaven has been processed with DVNR, what's that?
What's the diffrence with DNR and DVNR?
"Digital Vision's DVNR system was used for small dirt, grain, and noise reduction."
Does it mean that grain has been removed along with detail?

Most if not all Criterion's booklet say that DVNR was used, yet they look great.

Drastuart · 03-09-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JediFonger

update your firmware

Been there...done that...doesn't help.

JediFonger · 03-09-2010, 04:28 PM

as long as there are engineers who oversee all of the adjustments i'm fine with that. i think Criterion has it under control.

but for other studios w/less experienced engineers, they just run an "automatic" DNR pass. when that happens you get stuff like Gladiator, catalog WB titles, etc.etc.etc.

JediFonger · 03-09-2010, 04:29 PM

get a diff. player. i've got 6 BD players. not all discs work on all players.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drastuart

Been there...done that...doesn't help.

ChadFL · 03-09-2010, 05:08 PM

Figured I'd throw out another film that I think is Criterion worthy and gets little mainstream attention. I'm not ever sure it ever came out on wide-release DVD. I only owned it on VHS. How about Tender Mercies? It's a top-notch low budget film starring Robert Duvall as a washed up former country music singer working to get his life back in order. Duvall won Best Actor for it and it probably was the finest work of his career. No idea if Criterion could ever get rights to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tender_mercies

Idioteque... · 03-09-2010, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Figured I'd throw out another film that I think is Criterion worthy and gets little mainstream attention. I'm not ever sure it ever came out on wide-release DVD. I only owned it on VHS. How about Tender Mercies? It's a top-notch low budget film starring Robert Duvall as a washed up former country music singer working to get his life back in order. Duvall won Best Actor for it and it probably was the finest work of his career. No idea if Criterion could ever get rights to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tender_mercies

You mean the original Crazy Heart?

ChadFL · 03-09-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Idioteque...

You mean the original Crazy Heart?

Basically. Havn't seen Crazy Heart but supposedly it's similar.

liquidice · 03-09-2010, 07:15 PM

in the middle of Wings of Desire now. What is the significance of the color parts before he transforms into human form? Is it supposed to symbolize his desire to be 'real'?

Also, anyone know what the Asian girl says at the club with the band that makes him get that sheepish grin? No subtitles popped up at that point.

ccfixx · 03-09-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by liquidice

Wings of Desire

Also, anyone know what the Asian girl says at the club with the band that makes him get that sheepish grin? No subtitles popped up at that point.

Isn't it better not knowing? Isn't that why there are no subtitles.

CC

JediFonger · 03-09-2010, 08:30 PM

not4me cc

. it's way out there for me imho (wings o' desire). led me to not buying it.

captveg · 03-09-2010, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidice

in the middle of Wings of Desire now. What is the significance of the color parts before he transforms into human form? Is it supposed to symbolize his desire to be 'real'?

I always took those shots as not being his point of view, or the living world's point of view.

JediFonger · 03-09-2010, 08:56 PM

my current wishlist (getting ready for B&N sale if/when that pops up):
-Yojimbo/Sanjuro boxset (could be day1 buys... dunno yet.)
-Days of Heaven
-M
-Stagecoach
-Lola Montes
-8½
-Vivre sa vie

on the fence about:
-Walkabout (didn't see Man Who Fell...)

the other titles i already have or will rent.

PowellPressburger · 03-09-2010, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Figured I'd throw out another film that I think is Criterion worthy and gets little mainstream attention. I'm not ever sure it ever came out on wide-release DVD. I only owned it on VHS. How about Tender Mercies? It's a top-notch low budget film starring Robert Duvall as a washed up former country music singer working to get his life back in order. Duvall won Best Actor for it and it probably was the finest work of his career. No idea if Criterion could ever get rights to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tender_mercies

I used to own the old Anchor Bay DVD release and I could swear a new DVD edition is set for release if not already soon, and I think Studio Canal owns the film.

Q? · 03-09-2010, 10:18 PM

Thanks reallyagi

ShellOilJunior · 03-10-2010, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediFonger

my current wishlist (getting ready for B&N sale if/when that pops up):
-Yojimbo/Sanjuro boxset (could be day1 buys... dunno yet.)
-Days of Heaven
-M
-Stagecoach
-Lola Montes
-8½
-Vivre sa vie

on the fence about:
-Walkabout (didn't see Man Who Fell...)

the other titles i already have or will rent.

I love the list!

BTW You know you'll cave and get the Kurosawa box

Criterion....Kurosawa...Blu...Mifune....do it!

jacobsever · 03-10-2010, 01:21 AM

Pretty mad at Borders.
Went there today because I got a 40% dvd/blu ray coupon in my email.
Tried to purchase Science Is Fiction, and the coupon wouldn't work because they considered it a "box set" because it has more than one disc.

This is why I usually try to stay away from Borders.

I ended up getting Made In USA though.

JediFonger · 03-10-2010, 01:58 AM

2late

. i got it @270 on my personal gold deal... but Deepdiscount.com was actually selling it for $220 a while back. so, look for their sales when it hits that price point =P.

i also snatched up all of the 16 individual SE releases cause the AK 100 25 movie boxset does not have bonus/extras at all.

AND i have also that 31st movie that Kurosawa disowned

i dont have subtitles though so i dunno what they're talking about.

i also have Kagemusha on BD ofc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

I love the list!

BTW You know you'll cave and get the Kurosawa box

Criterion....Kurosawa...Blu...Mifune....do it!

ChadFL · 03-10-2010, 02:23 AM

Well I finally got around to watching Bottle Rocket. It was on my on demand channel to watch free. Very good movie. I plan on buying it on Criterion Blu as soon as I can find it for a reasonable price. That's right Amazon, I'm looking at you!

It's been a few weeks now - time to fix the ridiculous Criterion prices already.

03-09-2010, 05:08 PM	#6727
ChadFL Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Daytona Beach, FL Blu-ray collection:556 DVD collection:5	Figured I'd throw out another film that I think is Criterion worthy and gets little mainstream attention. I'm not ever sure it ever came out on wide-release DVD. I only owned it on VHS. How about Tender Mercies? It's a top-notch low budget film starring Robert Duvall as a washed up former country music singer working to get his life back in order. Duvall won Best Actor for it and it probably was the finest work of his career. No idea if Criterion could ever get rights to it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tender_mercies Last edited by ChadFL; 03-09-2010 at 05:10 PM.

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03-09-2010, 03:40 PM	#6722
reallyagi Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Chicago, IL Blu-ray collection:182 Trading Score:5	According to Digital Vision's website, DVNR is used for: * ASC3 ME, film dust and dirt removal * AGR4 ME, film grain and video noise reduction * ACP, advanced colour correction * ZOM, aspect ratio conversion and pan & scan processing * PP, compression pre-processor * IE, image enhancer * BWF, brickwall filter * ALS, anti-aliasing filter

03-09-2010, 04:28 PM	#6725
JediFonger Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:248 Blu-ray collection:1350 DVD collection:144 Digital collection:1 Trading Score:47	as long as there are engineers who oversee all of the adjustments i'm fine with that. i think Criterion has it under control. but for other studios w/less experienced engineers, they just run an "automatic" DNR pass. when that happens you get stuff like Gladiator, catalog WB titles, etc.etc.etc.

03-09-2010, 07:15 PM	#6730
liquidice Mad Scientist Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Milwaukee Home Theater Gallery:43 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews:6	in the middle of Wings of Desire now. What is the significance of the color parts before he transforms into human form? Is it supposed to symbolize his desire to be 'real'? Also, anyone know what the Asian girl says at the club with the band that makes him get that sheepish grin? No subtitles popped up at that point.

03-09-2010, 08:30 PM	#6732
JediFonger Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:248 Blu-ray collection:1350 DVD collection:144 Digital collection:1 Trading Score:47	not4me cc . it's way out there for me imho (wings o' desire). led me to not buying it.

03-09-2010, 08:56 PM	#6734
JediFonger Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:248 Blu-ray collection:1350 DVD collection:144 Digital collection:1 Trading Score:47	my current wishlist (getting ready for B&N sale if/when that pops up): -Yojimbo/Sanjuro boxset (could be day1 buys... dunno yet.) -Days of Heaven -M -Stagecoach -Lola Montes -8½ -Vivre sa vie on the fence about: -Walkabout (didn't see Man Who Fell...) the other titles i already have or will rent.

03-09-2010, 10:18 PM	#6736
Q? Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Nuuk, Greenland Blu-ray collection:168	Thanks reallyagi

03-10-2010, 01:21 AM	#6738
jacobsever Blu-ray Knight Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Denver, CO 4K collection:158 Blu-ray collection:732 DVD collection:6 Trading Score:13	Pretty mad at Borders. Went there today because I got a 40% dvd/blu ray coupon in my email. Tried to purchase Science Is Fiction, and the coupon wouldn't work because they considered it a "box set" because it has more than one disc. This is why I usually try to stay away from Borders. I ended up getting Made In USA though.

03-10-2010, 02:23 AM	#6740
ChadFL Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Daytona Beach, FL Blu-ray collection:556 DVD collection:5	Well I finally got around to watching Bottle Rocket. It was on my on demand channel to watch free. Very good movie. I plan on buying it on Criterion Blu as soon as I can find it for a reasonable price. That's right Amazon, I'm looking at you! It's been a few weeks now - time to fix the ridiculous Criterion prices already.

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