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Old 07-17-2013, 11:51 AM   #77321
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Oh that's awesome. A shame there aren't more extras, but at least we aren't being charged for the lack of them.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:58 PM   #77322
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Can anyone recommend 2-3 must buys from the Criterion Collection that are only on DVD (not released on Blu). I am going to get Samurai Rebellion for sure. I was also considering Bicycle Thieves. Anything else?
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:03 PM   #77323
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Can anyone recommend 2-3 must buys from the Criterion Collection that are only on DVD (not released on Blu). I am going to get Samurai Rebellion for sure. I was also considering Bicycle Thieves. Anything else?
The Human Condition is a must. After that I'd say Berlin Alexanderplatz, Bergman's faith trilogy, or 4 by Agnes Verda
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:06 PM   #77324
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Can anyone recommend 2-3 must buys from the Criterion Collection that are only on DVD (not released on Blu). I am going to get Samurai Rebellion for sure. I was also considering Bicycle Thieves. Anything else?
Of course it's hard to narrow it down to three, but here it goes:

Three easy films to reccomend:
The Vanishing
Peeping Tom
Le Samurai

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Personal Top 3:
L'Avventura
The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant
Ikiru
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:09 PM   #77325
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So after bringing in a ton of my dvds to a local record/video store today I managed to upgrade a couple of my old Criterion dvds to blu.
Upgraded Band Of Outsiders, Down By Law, and Sansho the Bailiff and soon I'm going to order in copies of Harakiri and either Ivans Childhood, Vivre Sa Vie or The Magician (still trying to decide which one) with my remaining store credit.
Oughta hold me off till Barnes And Noble gets off their goddamned asses and sends my bloody order
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:10 PM   #77326
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Of course it's hard to narrow it down to three, but here it goes:

Three easy films to reccomend:
The Vanishing
Peeping Tom
Le Samurai

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Personal Top 3:
L'Avventura
The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant
Ikiru
I should say I already own all of Melville's Criterion releases including the ones on DVD.

I will look into those two lists! Thanks to you both!
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:13 PM   #77327
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I should say I already own all of Melville's Criterion releases including the ones on DVD.

I will look into those two lists! Thanks to you both!
Put Andre Rublev in Le Samourai's place.
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:15 PM   #77328
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Can anyone recommend 2-3 must buys from the Criterion Collection that are only on DVD (not released on Blu). I am going to get Samurai Rebellion for sure. I was also considering Bicycle Thieves. Anything else?
Sullivan's Travels FTW
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:16 PM   #77329
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Sullivan's Travels FTW
Or any of the Preston Sturges Films, really!
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:20 PM   #77330
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After revisiting the other three Chaplin Criterions this past weekend, I sailed on my wave of enthusiasm and purchased Monsieur Verdoux today so that I could move it to the top of the Blu-ray stack and watch it this evening.



[Show spoiler]Even now, in 2013, it is easy to understand how the 1947 Charlie Chaplin film, Monsieur Verdoux, was the target of considerable negativity and contempt at the time of its release. For the masses of toughened Americans, those whom Tom Brokaw would later describe as the "Greatest Generation", who had weathered the Great Depression and were starting to make a life for themselves and their families after their horrific sacrifices during the second World War, the story of a murderous and opportunistic sociopath who is arrested for the murders of multiple middle-aged women only to imply in court that his wrongdoings pale in comparison to the violence endorsed by wars and economy must have struck many a nerve beneath the skin. Since I was a 1980s kid through and through, my first thought after watching Monsieur Verdoux was to remember a song, "Shoplifters of the World Unite", by The Smiths, where Morrissey, in all his bratty glory, sings, "My only weakness is a listed crime, but last night the plans of a future war was all I saw on Channel Four."

The Southern conservative in me who grew up attending church and believing that we are all individually responsible for all of our responses to other persons and events bristles at the shady and evasive morality of Chaplin's title character in Monsieur Verdoux, but I also cannot help but admire Chaplin's ability to arouse my sympathy, my laughter, and my curiosity for this character. Monsieur Verdoux is an unforgettable work of cinema that pulls us in by way of brilliant pacing and an effective mix of physical and situational comedy, only to leave us standing in the dust shaking our heads with bewilderment at what we have just watched.

Make no mistake about it. Monsieur Verdoux, a black-and-white 1947 film featuring a dapper Charlie Chaplin years past his cinematic prime is still a thousand times more subversive than, say for example, Oliver Stone's 1994 film, Natural Born Killers, or Harmony Korine's 2013 film, Spring Breakers.

Monsieur Verdoux does not entirely turn its back on the strengths of Charlie Chaplin's cinematic past, though, and prospective viewers should be assured that this movie has more than its share of hilariously fun moments. A scene where Charlie Chaplin, in the guise of one of his aliases, is attempting to perform a murder on a small fishing boat in the middle of a lake had me laughing out loud. A later sequence where Chaplin is evading a certain wedding guest, is one of the most brilliantly filmed situational comedy bits that I have ever seen. These lighthearted scenes that actually cause us to cheer for the title character despite our distaste for his life choices are occasionally interrupted by moments of bracing emotion. Monsieur Verdoux's mid-film encounter with a down-on-her-luck girl, played by the unbelievably beautiful Marilyn Nash, stops us dead in our tracks and gives us a view of Verdoux's psyche from a new angle altogether.

Monsieur Verdoux is what he is, and, in the end, we realize that even the most fearsomely remorseless people in our world have unacknowledged sides to their nature and that even these people are not incapable of kindness or altruism on occasion. Charlie Chaplin never asks us to let his character off the hook, because his character ultimately does not deserve to be let off the hook, but he does invite us to observe and understand. At a time when Chaplin himself was besieged by accusations about his character and about his political loyalties, his use of a character like Monsieur Verdoux to demand our understanding was a brave cinematic move.

This unnerving, but amusing film looks great in high definition on this Criterion Blu-ray presentation. The audio presentation comes through nicely for Charlie Chaplin's first honest-to-goodness talking picture where he grants us no shortage of witty dialogue. A handful of fun and informative documentaries shed light on the mystique behind this strange little addition to Chaplin's catalogue.

The Criterion Collection is at its best when it presents controversial films like Monsieur Verdoux and gives a second chance to movies that would otherwise be condemned to wither in the neglected underbelly of movie history. Monsieur Verdoux, in all its hilarious, gripping, beautifully-paced, unsettling, and shady glory, is a movie that deserves to be seen and judged by new generations of viewers.


Incredible read Great Owl.. I too have been on a Chaplin kick and have Verdoux lined up for this weekend. I was excited before to watch it, but now my patience is wearing thin.. Hopefully I have the time tonight.
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Can anyone recommend 2-3 must buys from the Criterion Collection that are only on DVD (not released on Blu). I am going to get Samurai Rebellion for sure. I was also considering Bicycle Thieves. Anything else?
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Hoop Dreams

Some may not agree with my decision to recommend Hoop Dreams but it was shot on SD Video so it's almost guaranteed to stay on DVD. Hopefully the other two get upgraded eventually but they're both excellent for now.
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:34 PM   #77332
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Some may not agree with my decision to recommend Hoop Dreams but it was shot on SD Video so it's almost guaranteed to stay on DVD. Hopefully the other two get upgraded eventually but they're both excellent for now.
I totally agree about Hoop Dreams, and it is probably one of the least likely blu releases in the collection.
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:36 PM   #77333
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If it was still in print i would say harder they come but since not, human condition and war trilogy sets
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:37 PM   #77334
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Owl, I vehemently disagree about your take on said Oliver Stone film.
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:49 PM   #77335
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+ samurai rebellion & human condition need a criterion bluray upgrade...
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:56 PM   #77336
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So, sold some stuff on ebay to be able to swing one last BN sale title. So far I've bought Salo and The Leopard this month.

I'm down to the following:
Oharu
A Night To Remember
Lord of the Flies
Richard III
Devils Backbone
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:12 PM   #77337
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Owl, I vehemently disagree about your take on said Oliver Stone film.
I believe you're talking about Natural Born Killers? Another movie that is extremely divisive. I hated it.
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Or any of the Preston Sturges Films, really!
Ever since Criterion started producing their first Blu-rays, I have been patiently awaiting Preston Sturges titles. The wait is brutal. Sullivan's Travels is a top 25 or 30 all-time movie for me. But even if we could get The Lady Eve to whet our appetites, I'd love it!
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:14 PM   #77339
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Yes indeed.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:30 PM   #77340
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Owl, I vehemently disagree about your take on said Oliver Stone film.
Natural Born Killers is not a bad movie, but it is heavy-handed to an annoying extent. A friend and I saw the movie on the day of release back when we were in college, and I've seen it about 20 times since. It's one of those movies that I've tried to appreciate more than I do, but Oliver Stone often has trouble with the concept of making a little go a long way, and, instead, he tends to use a bazooka to kill a mosquito. Even one of Stone's more subdued films, Wall Street, has a misstep of a scene where Michael Douglas's Gordon Gekko is having the conversation with Daryl Hannah about love, and this scene reduces Gekko to a cartoonish figure. I mean, Natural Born Killers is fun in many ways, and it has a killer soundtrack, but I just cannot get past the heavy-handedness.

Even after my first viewing of Monsieur Verdoux, I'm of the opinion that it succeeds at making many of the same statements with more finesse.
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