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Abdrewes · 08-16-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ultlife2013

Give your DVDs away to your family, get them into the classics.

Or the Library. Throwing away CC DVDs is a waste (unless you're throwing away Life Aquatic, then it's acceptable

)

lordmorpheus72 · 08-16-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Or the Library. Throwing away CC DVDs is a waste (unless you're throwing away Life Aquatic, then it's acceptable

)

Harsh!

Abdrewes · 08-16-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lordmorpheus72

Harsh!

I'm just playing

I don't hate Life Aquatic, I just thought it was way too indulgent. After a while the artifice became the point, leaving it with a hollowed out, inert core.

It'll still be interesting to see in HD, because there are some pretty impressive sights there.

FaceInTheLeaves · 08-16-2013, 08:28 PM

We really need a thread devoted to the films.

Abdrewes · 08-16-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FaceInTheLeaves

We really need a thread devoted to the films.

There are individual threads on the movies too. If you don't see one, add one.

lordmorpheus72 · 08-16-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdrewes

I'm just playing

I don't hate Life Aquatic, I just thought it was way too indulgent. After a while the artifice became the point, leaving it with a hollowed out, inert core.

It'll still be interesting to see in HD, because there are some pretty impressive sights there.

I knew it was in jest, but you do make a good point. It took a few viewings for me to really enjoy it. For me Royal Tenenbaums is the Wes Anderson I have a hard time getting into. I kind of feel the way you do about Life Aquatic I guess, and I just never saw it going anywhere. But it has been years since I've watched it, maybe I need to give it another shot.

silverlakephil · 08-16-2013, 08:41 PM

DVD Beaver's review of Bergman's Autumn Sonata. I'm really excited about this release. The screenshot comparisons literally look like night and day, particularly the first one.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcom...tumnsonata.htm

lordmorpheus72 · 08-16-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by silverlakephil

DVD Beaver's review of Bergman's Autumn Sonata. I'm really excited about this release. The screenshot comparisons literally look like night and day, particularly the first one.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcom...tumnsonata.htm

Wow... that's just amazing! Like a whole new movie.

saprano · 08-16-2013, 08:47 PM

No point in selling the DVD's to Amazon. It's only the disc. You get less if it's opened nevermind casesless.

Abdrewes · 08-16-2013, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lordmorpheus72

I knew it was in jest, but you do make a good point. It took a few viewings for me to really enjoy it. For me Royal Tenenbaums is the Wes Anderson I have a hard time getting into. I kind of feel the way you do about Life Aquatic I guess, and I just never saw it going anywhere. But it has been years since I've watched it, maybe I need to give it another shot.

Yeah, I can see that. Tenenbaums goes crazy with the art design too. I was kinda offended when he matched the wallpaper with the skin tone and suits of those two black guys...do you know the scene? It's like he was thinking, "you know what would be cute..." I thought it was a tad racially insensitive.

That said, it's still my favorite Wes. It had the nicest blend between strong character and quirk IMO.

charnier · 08-16-2013, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lordmorpheus72

Wow... that's just amazing! Like a whole new movie.

But is it right - it does not look very autumnal.

JackTwist · 08-16-2013, 08:49 PM

Perhaps this has been stated previously, or perhaps Criterion has yet to say, but do we know the style of packaging for the dual format releases? They look to be larger DVD style cases which I hope is not the case since I've enjoyed converting my Criterions one by one to the blu-rays. And I doubt all editions will be G1 size digipacks, especially for the smaller films.

Either way, the announcement of Tokyo Story is incredibly exciting as I've purposely held off on the BFI edition for a restoration. And no doubt, Chaplin's City Lights is one of my 5 most anticipated blu-rays.

saprano · 08-16-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Or the Library. Throwing away CC DVDs is a waste (unless you're throwing away Life Aquatic, then it's acceptable

)

I'm wondering when Criterion will announce that movie. It came on HDNet a few months ago and looked amazing.

Brad1963 · 08-16-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by charnier

But is it right - it does not look very autumnal.

The Blu ray transfer does look stunning but it does not have the 'autumn' tone like it did before. Looks like the hazy tone was scrubbed out; kind of like what was done to Do the Right Thing when it went from Criterion DVD to Universal Blu ray.

Abdrewes · 08-16-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by saprano

I'm wondering when Criterion will announce that movie. It came on HDNet a few months ago and looked amazing.

Yeah, I'm not too keen on the film, but it deserves to be seen in HD.

charnier · 08-16-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad1963

The Blu ray transfer does look stunning but it does not have the 'autumn' tone like it did before. Looks like the hazy tone was scrubbed out; kind of like what was done to Do the Right Thing when it went from Criterion DVD to Universal Blu ray.

If the BD looks like how it was supposed to be, then fine. But if it was supposed to have the warm autumnal colours, as with the previous dvds -

MifuneFan · 08-16-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad1963

The Blu ray transfer does look stunning but it does not have the 'autumn' tone like it did before. Looks like the hazy tone was scrubbed out; kind of like what was done to Do the Right Thing when it went from Criterion DVD to Universal Blu ray.

Wow, I just looked at the screenshots and the difference is pretty startling. I have no idea what the original looked like, but I agree that the DVD looks more autumnal, and even matches the tone of the cover. The BD does look more accurate in terms of real-life colors, while the DVD has the whole movie tinted in reddish/orange, but the BD presentation just gives me a "cold" feeling. Again, I don't know what's more accurate, but I think I prefer the color timing of the DVD. Aside from the color, the image quality looks quite good, lots of detail, a fine grain texture.

Brad1963 · 08-16-2013, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Wow, I just looked at the screenshots and the difference is pretty startling. I have no idea what the original looked like, but I agree that the DVD looks more autumnal, and even matches the tone of the cover. The BD does look more accurate in terms of real-life colors, while the DVD has the whole movie tinted in reddish/orange, but the BD presentation just gives me a "cold" feeling. Again, I don't know what's more accurate, but I think I prefer the color timing of the DVD. Aside from the color, the image quality looks quite good, lots of detail, a fine grain texture.

I honestly cannot remember what it looked like on screen in the theatre. The Blu ray looks acceptable IMO and I have no issue with how it looks; but if the original intention by Bergman was for it to have a hazy brownish tone to signify the season purists may get vocal about it.

The Great Owl · 08-16-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I've pondered the idea of ordering the Pathe Blu-ray of Le Samourai just to have a placeholder of my all-time favorite movie in the Blu-ray format, but the screenshots look absymal even by my low standards. Best just to hang on to my Criterion DVD for as long as it takes.

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Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Favorite movie of all time? I'd import it anyways...

Well...

I marinated on this for a couple of hours, and decided to take a leap of faith.

I just ordered this for $24.20 US dollars, including shipping, from the French Amazon website. I'll brown-bag my lunches for a week after going over my pre-planned budget after yesterday's haul.

What prompted my decision, aside from this being my all-time favorite movie?

Here's a Caps-A-Holic comparison of the existing Criterion DVD vs. the Pathe Blu-ray

Looks like there's a lot of manipulation by digital elves/filtering/whatever, but it's a clear picture by comparison that might look fine on my modest-sized television.

No English subtitles, but I can pretty much quote the subtitles from memory anyway from my Criterion DVD that I will continue to hold on to.
I ordered the Amaray pressing instead of the digibook, since this site confirms that the Amaray one is Region A playable.

I'll let y'all know my findings. Chances are likely that I'll end up swallowing my pride and admitting that this was a reckless buy, but it's my all-time favorite, so it's worth a shot.

TheHighRoller · 08-16-2013, 09:26 PM

Does anyone know if the Dual Format change has anything to do with falling sales?

I think that may be why. Either that, or The Criterion Collection is trying to phase out DVDs by getting people to get the dual format editions.

Personally, I hope that the casing is the same as it is for Blu-rays. They should put them in something like the Brazil release with two caps for the Blu-rays on the one side.

The November announcement was very disappointing by the way.

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08-16-2013, 08:28 PM	#80744
FaceInTheLeaves Senior Member Member since:May 2011 Location:United Kingdom	We really need a thread devoted to the films.

08-16-2013, 08:41 PM	#80747
silverlakephil Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2011 Location:The Bay Area 4K collection:99 Blu-ray collection:2292 DVD collection:13 Trading Score:18	DVD Beaver's review of Bergman's Autumn Sonata. I'm really excited about this release. The screenshot comparisons literally look like night and day, particularly the first one. http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcom...tumnsonata.htm

08-16-2013, 08:47 PM	#80749
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	No point in selling the DVD's to Amazon. It's only the disc. You get less if it's opened nevermind casesless.

08-16-2013, 08:49 PM	#80752
JackTwist Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2010 Location:Raleigh, NC 4K collection:867 Blu-ray collection:1880 DVD collection:129 iTunes collection:2 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Perhaps this has been stated previously, or perhaps Criterion has yet to say, but do we know the style of packaging for the dual format releases? They look to be larger DVD style cases which I hope is not the case since I've enjoyed converting my Criterions one by one to the blu-rays. And I doubt all editions will be G1 size digipacks, especially for the smaller films. Either way, the announcement of Tokyo Story is incredibly exciting as I've purposely held off on the BFI edition for a restoration. And no doubt, Chaplin's City Lights is one of my 5 most anticipated blu-rays.

08-16-2013, 09:26 PM	#80760
TheHighRoller Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2011 Location:BlueVersion on Letterboxd 4K collection:574 Blu-ray collection:1252 DVD collection:11 Digital collection:2 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:104	Does anyone know if the Dual Format change has anything to do with falling sales? I think that may be why. Either that, or The Criterion Collection is trying to phase out DVDs by getting people to get the dual format editions. Personally, I hope that the casing is the same as it is for Blu-rays. They should put them in something like the *Brazil* release with two caps for the Blu-rays on the one side. The November announcement was very disappointing by the way.

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