The Criterion Collection

[lordmorpheus72]

Originally Posted by joie

In Blade Runner, Deckerd's apartment number is 9732, if I remember correctly.

Add: Aide to Kubrick on ‘Shining’ Scoffs at ‘Room 237’ Theories

Did you watch the classic 1980 horror film “The Shining” and think it was about a man driven to insane and murderous rage by a haunted hotel? If so, you blew it. Or rather, you missed profound messages subtly embedded in the film by its enigmatic director, Stanley Kubrick.

That, at least, is the notion behind “Room 237,” a documentary by Rodney Ascher released on Friday. The movie is a series of voice-overs atop scenes from Kubrick movies by a small assortment of obsessives who have developed baroque theories about the true meaning of “The Shining.” One believes the film is about the slaughter of American Indians, another that it is about the Holocaust. Yet another claims it is a kind of apology by Kubrick for the putative role he played in helping to fake the moon landing. And there’s more. ...

If the lilnk doesn't work (the site has munched links to The NY Times in the past) google for "room 237 conspiracy new york times," without the quotes. That should get you past the paywall.

And the "9" in Deckard's apartment number is the floor number. Was "Jack" a replicant?

Hahaha! So I totally missed that last question and started going off on the "is Deckard a replicant." Just flat missed you said Jack.

[lordmorpheus72]

Originally Posted by jayembee

There's no question that Scott believes that Deckard was a replicant. But like you, I don't agree with the idea. In fact, I think it undermines the whole point of the story if Deckard is a replicant.

(I almost fell out of my chair when I watched the deleted scenes in the Blade Runner set, at the end when Deckard and Rachael are driving along the mountain road, and Rachael says to Deckard, "We were made for each other.")

I've had this discussion with a few film buff buddies, one who teach a Lit in Film course and shows Blade Runner, none of us think that Jack is or was a replicant. Ridley's later "recanting," saying that he thought Jack was, we think was brought about by all the questions, and him going back and making/cutting the different versions of the film. Plus added more hype for the film, and discussions...

Agreed, to me, the film doesn't work if he is a replicant.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by shadedpain4

Are you going to watch 2010 now?

Originally Posted by iScottie

Probably not lol.

You should. 2010 gets an undeserved bad rap because it pales in comparison to its predecessor. But taken on its own terms, it really is a terrific film. I'd had the Blu-ray for oh, about four years now, and finally got around to watching it a couple of months ago. First time I'd seen the film in at least 15 years, and still like it quite a bit. And that's coming from someone who's hated every other film by Peter Hyams he's ever seen.

There are weaknesses in the film to be sure. It feels like there were large chunks of narrative left on the cutting room floor and replaced with voiceover exposition. That said, it's still very much worth the couple of hours it takes to watch it.

[lordmorpheus72]

Originally Posted by jayembee

You should. 2010 gets an undeserved bad rap because it pales in comparison to its predecessor. But taken on its own terms, it really is a terrific film. I'd had the Blu-ray for oh, about four years now, and finally got around to watching it a couple of months ago. First time I'd seen the film in at least 15 years, and still like it quite a bit. And that's coming from someone who's hated every other film by Peter Hyams he's ever seen.

There are weaknesses in the film to be sure. It feels like there were large chunks of narrative left on the cutting room floor and replaced with voiceover exposition. That said, it's still very much worth the couple of hours it takes to watch it.

I've never given it a chance because of the bad rep it's gotten. Maybe I'll add it to the ol Netflix list and give it a shot. Anything I need to watch for or keep in mind?

[Scottie]

Originally Posted by jayembee

You should. 2010 gets an undeserved bad rap because it pales in comparison to its predecessor. But taken on its own terms, it really is a terrific film. I'd had the Blu-ray for oh, about four years now, and finally got around to watching it a couple of months ago. First time I'd seen the film in at least 15 years, and still like it quite a bit. And that's coming from someone who's hated every other film by Peter Hyams he's ever seen.

There are weaknesses in the film to be sure. It feels like there were large chunks of narrative left on the cutting room floor and replaced with voiceover exposition. That said, it's still very much worth the couple of hours it takes to watch it.

Thanks for sharing. I may give it a watch now.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by lordmorpheus72

I've never given it a chance because of the bad rep it's gotten. Maybe I'll add it to the ol Netflix list and give it a shot. Anything I need to watch for or keep in mind?

Well, you can look out for the cameo (actually, one and a half cameos) of Arthur C. Clarke. In the scene where Roy Scheider is talking with James McEachin on a street bench with the White House in the background, you'll see a man on the left side of the screen feeding pigeons. That's Clarke.

Later on, there's a scene in a hospital where we see a Time magazine cover reflecting the growing tensions between the USA and USSR. The drawing of the American President is Clarke, the drawing of the Russian Premier is Kubrick.

Otherwise, just sit back and enjoy some solid acting by Scheider, John Lithgow, Elya Baskin, and especially Helen Mirren. Oh, and HAL.

It won't "wow" you like 2001, but is a solidly entertaining, well-made film.

[Lutz]

Originally Posted by lordmorpheus72

I've had this discussion with a few film buff buddies, one who teach a Lit in Film course and shows Blade Runner, none of us think that Jack is or was a replicant. Ridley's later "recanting," saying that he thought Jack was, we think was brought about by all the questions, and him going back and making/cutting the different versions of the film. Plus added more hype for the film, and discussions...

Agreed, to me, the film doesn't work if he is a replicant.

But there are already three unicorns in the movie before the fourth was added.

(The other two are in GFs apartment, on his desk while he is sleeping, on the far side of the screen at the start of the boiling egg scene.)

[Scottie]

It is in François Truffaut's 1959 coming-of-age story, The 400 Blows, that we are first introduced to the character of Antoine Doinel.

Antoine Doinel is a misunderstood, young man, who leads a lonely and unhappy life. His home life is very difficult because both of his parents are very miserable and oppressive. However, it is his schooling that is the worst due to how harsh and authoritative his teacher is. In order to fill the void in his life, he turns to petty crime and other mischievous forms of behavior.

The thing that makes The 400 Blows so great is that it is a very relatable story. While not to the same degree, we have all experienced some sort of hardship and oppression like Antoine Doinel himself. Therefore, I can see how easy it is to turn to this negative lifestyle in order to fill in this emptiness.

I appreciate François Truffaut tremendously because the character of Antoine Doinel, is in essence, Truffaut himself. He weaves his own life stories and experiences into this character, to give a truly genuine and unforgettable story.

This was one of the Criterion blind buys that I was most hesitant about, but after seeing it, I can say with 100% affirmation that it is one of my favorites.

[SilentDawn]

Originally Posted by iScottie

[Show spoiler]It is in François Truffaut's 1959 coming-of-age story, The 400 Blows, that we are first introduced to the character of Antoine Doinel.

Antoine Doinel is a misunderstood, young man, who leads a lonely and unhappy life. His home life is very difficult because both of his parents are very miserable and oppressive. However, it is his schooling that is the worst due to how harsh and authoritative his teacher is. In order to fill the void in his life, he turns to petty crime and other mischievous forms of behavior.

The thing that makes The 400 Blows so great is that it is a very relatable story. While not to the same degree, we have all experienced some sort of hardship and oppression like Antoine Doinel himself. Therefore, I can see how easy it is to turn to this negative lifestyle in order to fill in this emptiness.

I appreciate François Truffaut tremendously because the character of Antoine Doinel, is in essence, Truffaut himself. He weaves his own life stories and experiences into this character, to give a truly genuine and unforgettable story.

This was one of the Criterion blind buys that I was most hesitant about, but after seeing it, I can say with 100% affirmation that it is one of my favorites.

Possibly my favorite film in the Criterion Collection, a masterpiece of cinema with wonderful human drama filled with that french new wave style that I can't help but love.

10/10 for me as well!

[bigducknfish]

Originally Posted by jayembee

You should. 2010 gets an undeserved bad rap because it pales in comparison to its predecessor. But taken on its own terms, it really is a terrific film. I'd had the Blu-ray for oh, about four years now, and finally got around to watching it a couple of months ago. First time I'd seen the film in at least 15 years, and still like it quite a bit. And that's coming from someone who's hated every other film by Peter Hyams he's ever seen.

There are weaknesses in the film to be sure. It feels like there were large chunks of narrative left on the cutting room floor and replaced with voiceover exposition. That said, it's still very much worth the couple of hours it takes to watch it.

I agree its well worth watching. 2001 was poetic but I've found many people who have wondered what it was about and i remember as a young child i did too, though it burnt a place into my mind. 2010 is a more straightforward film and does help explain its predecessor to some extent. And my favourite line, "My god, it's full of stars".

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by SilentxStatik24

Possibly my favorite film in the Criterion Collection, a masterpiece of cinema with wonderful human drama filled with that french new wave style that I can't help but love.

10/10 for me as well!

Check out Shoot the Piano Player. It's equally awesome.

[Scottie]

Ernst Lubitsch, as drawn by Wes Anderson for our release of TROUBLE IN PARADISE.



Does this mean a Blu-ray will be coming out soon?

[Abdrewes]

Lubitsch and Wes shouldn't even be in the same sentence.

[Mansinthe]

today i watched "island of lost souls" . i did already read the book a while ago , so i did know about the story. but still its a totally awesome movie that probably did freak people out back in the 30s.

[SimBelm]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Wow!!!! If Cinema Guild hadnt picked it up, Neighboring Sounds would have made an electric release. It's well worth seeing before you compile a best of 2013 list.

Cinema Guild make some fantastic choices for contemporary films, I'm dying to see their upcoming Blu releases of Leviathan and Museum Hours.

[brandon_260]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Wow!!!! If Cinema Guild hadnt picked it up, Neighboring Sounds would have made an electric release. It's well worth seeing before you compile a best of 2013 list.

It's quite something. I saw it in the theater months ago and was really captivated. I need to pick up CG's package. I'm so excited to see what they put together for Leviathan and Museum Hours (which might actually overtake Before Midnight as my film of the year).

[the sordid sentinel]

Originally Posted by iScottie

It is in François Truffaut's 1959 coming-of-age story, The 400 Blows, that we are first introduced to the character of Antoine Doinel.

Antoine Doinel is a misunderstood, young man, who leads a lonely and unhappy life. His home life is very difficult because both of his parents are very miserable and oppressive. However, it is his schooling that is the worst due to how harsh and authoritative his teacher is. In order to fill the void in his life, he turns to petty crime and other mischievous forms of behavior.

The thing that makes The 400 Blows so great is that it is a very relatable story. While not to the same degree, we have all experienced some sort of hardship and oppression like Antoine Doinel himself. Therefore, I can see how easy it is to turn to this negative lifestyle in order to fill in this emptiness.

I appreciate François Truffaut tremendously because the character of Antoine Doinel, is in essence, Truffaut himself. He weaves his own life stories and experiences into this character, to give a truly genuine and unforgettable story.

This was one of the Criterion blind buys that I was most hesitant about, but after seeing it, I can say with 100% affirmation that it is one of my favorites.

One of my favorites as well. The performance by Leaud floors me every time. How can a kid on camera be that assured and display so much gravitas? There is not a hint of acting anywhere. Only two I have ever seen come close at a similar age are Phoenix and Bale. The freeze frame on Doinel's face at the end with the churning ocean sounds is one of the best closing shots ever.

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by SimBelm

Cinema Guild make some fantastic choices for contemporary films, I'm dying to see their upcoming Blu releases of Leviathan and Museum Hours.

Between 'Sounds', Once Upon a Time in Anatolia, Strange Case of Angelica and Turin Horse, they are quickly becoming my favorite contemporary BluRay distributor. Excellent, excellent work.

Originally Posted by brandon_260

It's quite something. I saw it in the theater months ago and was really captivated. I need to pick up CG's package. I'm so excited to see what they put together for Leviathan and Museum Hours (which might actually overtake Before Midnight as my film of the year).

I Will have to see Museum Hours and Leviathan before I compile my 2013 top 20.

[brandon_260]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Between 'Sounds', Once Upon a Time in Anatolia, Strange Case of Angelica and Turin Horse, they are quickly becoming my favorite contemporary BluRay distributor. Excellent, excellent work.

I Will have to see Museum Hours and Leviathan before I compile my 2013 top 20.

I think you'll find something in the both of them. Leviathan is one of the most original films I've seen in too long.

[shadedpain4]

Originally Posted by SilentxStatik24

Possibly my favorite film in the Criterion Collection, a masterpiece of cinema with wonderful human drama filled with that french new wave style that I can't help but love.

10/10 for me as well!

If Gojira is #13, and On the Waterfront is #20, but the 400 Blows doesn't crack your Top 25, how is it possible that 400 Blows is your favorite film in the Criterion Collection?