The Criterion Collection

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Let's just leave the talking points to the film itself........ independent of the politics behind it, or if you think Guevara is a "swell fella" or not.....

I don't think he is a "swell fella", I just think people needs to look in the mirror before judging others (and I'm not talking about the average American when I say that).

But I stop about all of this, because I didn't bring the discussion up, just wanted to discuss why the funding was a problem. Thats all Beta.

Also I am just waiting until my Oshima set gets here.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Ok. I was listing funding issues, not that I hated the movie. I am well educated (I like to think) on Guevara and have little to no problem with the issue. The "direction" had nothing to do with why the rest of America hated this movie from the get go.

Yep, I realize you don't hate the film. I was just pointing out my likes/dislikes and that perhaps people have trouble liking Che b/c its hard to keep an open mind. And how much one is educated seems to matter little. Many scholars have opposing views on him. Of course, they could point fingers and say the other persons opinion isn't valid, etc, but the other side could use the same argument. But overall, I did like the film and its grown on me. At first, I was like "meh.." but now I'll probably buy it.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

Yep, I realize you don't hate the film. I was just pointing out my likes/dislikes and that perhaps people have trouble liking Che b/c its hard to keep an open mind. And how much one is educated seems to matter little. Many scholars have opposing views on him. Of course, they could point fingers and say the other persons opinion isn't valid, etc, but the other side could use the same argument.

I know that most of the anti-fans of this film never seen or will not see it. It's their views and it's fine with me. Like I have said before on here, I have strong views, but I don't want to force someone to watch or not watch something. Che is a good film, experimental in a way using the RED camera, but it is no way one of my fav releases of this year, by a long shot. It is rewatchable though, I have seen it twice last year, then once on Criterion's blu.

[SpiderBaby]

See you guys later, the Oshima set is here.

[Beta Man]

I know the legitimacy of the "leaked" Criterion titles via Amazon has been taken into question, but I'll just throw this out there.....

I checked Amazon just now, and in my goldbox "quick-picks" are several Criterion pre-orders without artwork of course....... The MSRP they give is the part that I find most interesting....

The Darjeeling Limited (Criterion Collection) [Blu-ray]
$39.95 $26.59 (33% off)


Videodrome (Criterion Collection) [Blu-ray]
Love it or loathe it, David... read more
$39.95 $26.59 (33% off)



Seven Samurai (Criterion Collection) [Blu-ray]
Unanimously hailed as one of th
$49.95 $33.24 (33% off)

This would explain a multi-disc Seven Samurai that one would expect......

[McCrutchy]

Oshima set shipped.

My first Eclipse set!

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Oshima set shipped.

My first Eclipse set!

Pretty nice start

[Slec]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Really? I thought the film could have been so much better. Putting a film together about a 20th century icon and a hero of mine should have been an easy thing to do. Del Toro did a great job acting but the script could have been much better.

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Those are good points. Though I always assumed this film would fare better in South America and European cinemas than in the U.S.

And as far as Che goes I always liked The Motorcycle Diaries far more.

So what was it that you didn't like, just thought the dialogue could have been better? I thought the transformation of Che was done extremely well, while still adhering to a code. Considering the source material, I thought they did a great job being subjective (again...considering the source material). I do wish there was a middle part to this story portrayed.

I hated the Motorcycle Diaries when I first saw it. I told the wife I'd give it another try, but the unwatched movies are piling up.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Slec

So what was it that you didn't like, just thought the dialogue could have been better? I thought the transformation of Che was done extremely well, while still adhering to a code. Considering the source material, I thought they did a great job being subjective (again...considering the source material). I do wish there was a middle part to this story portrayed.

I hated the Motorcycle Diaries when I first saw it. I told the wife I'd give it another try, but the unwatched movies are piling up.

Very slow and well... boring at times. I thought the UN clips randomly throughout served little purpose. And yes, I do think the middle part, namely Che's involvement in the Congo was a missing link.

[kndy]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Oshima set shipped.

My first Eclipse set!

Let me know what you guys think after you watch it. Each film in that set definitely makes for great discussion. But the only thing I recommend is watch it in order.

[kndy]

Major glitch on Amazon??? Criterion DVD's including box sets under $10??? (look at third party new) Check it out right now!!!

Oh my!! Not just Criterion, including expensive Flicker Alley titles and others as well!!! Even the expensive Warner sets....like the $80 Garbo set for $14????

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by kndy

Major glitch on Amazon??? Criterion DVD's including box sets under $10??? (look at third party new) Check it out right now!!!

Oh my!! Not just Criterion, including expensive Flicker Alley titles and others as well!!!

I just picked up......

Francois Truffaut's Adventures of Antoine Doinel (The 400 Blows / Antoine & Collette / Stolen Kisses / Bed & Board / Love on the Run) - Criterion Collection (1959)

Ingmar Bergman - Four Masterworks (Criterion Collection) (1957)


Eclipse Series 17: Nikkatsu Noir- Criterion Collection (2009) (TWO OF THEM!!)

Essential Art House VOL 3


Essential Art House VOL 4


and yes..... Finally got...

Roberto Rossellini's War Trilogy (Rome Open City/Paisan/Germany Year Zero) (Criterion Collection) (1948)


ALL OF IT..... for $84.67 shipped

If I counted correctly, that's 32 films

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

I just picked up......

Francois Truffaut's Adventures of Antoine Doinel (The 400 Blows / Antoine & Collette / Stolen Kisses / Bed & Board / Love on the Run) - Criterion Collection (1959)

Ingmar Bergman - Four Masterworks (Criterion Collection) (1957)


Eclipse Series 17: Nikkatsu Noir- Criterion Collection (2009) (TWO OF THEM!!)

Essential Art House VOL 3


Essential Art House VOL 4


and yes..... Finally got...

Roberto Rossellini's War Trilogy (Rome Open City/Paisan/Germany Year Zero) (Criterion Collection) (1948)


ALL OF IT..... for $84.67 shipped

That's insane. I cannot even imagine what others have paid.

[rich_adamson]

Originally Posted by kndy

Major glitch on Amazon??? Criterion DVD's including box sets under $10??? (look at third party new) Check it out right now!!!

Oh my!! Not just Criterion, including expensive Flicker Alley titles and others as well!!! Even the expensive Warner sets....like the $80 Garbo set for $14????

Damn, too late I guess... its not showing up for me. Would have loved to snag that Pedro Costa set for that, lol. C'est la vie!

[Beta Man]

I'll be surprised if this seller fulfills these orders (it's all one seller)

They do have 111,000 feedback though


There are some available dirt cheap still....

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...&condition=new

[Beta Man]

I see the "Storefront" but can't pull any matches by searching "Criterion" or simply "DVD" or "Box Set"

Is there a way to filter on just one seller????

[kndy]

Oh...man...this is crazy...the Warner Signature sets that are usually $80....are now $5-$10?????? What the hell.... Some of these have like 10 films on them.

[Beta Man]

haha, just for CG, I ordered....

John Cassavetes - Five Films (Shadows / Faces / A Woman Under the Influence / The Killing of a Chinese Bookie / Opening Night ) - Criterion Collection

For $11.80 shipped

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

I'll be surprised if this seller fulfills these orders (it's all one seller)

They do have 111,000 feedback though


There are some available dirt cheap still....

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...&condition=new

I was going to ask the same thing about that seller. I was browsing the Eclipse sets and for just $48 shipped I can buy four very good sets. Sounds too good to be true but the seller does have over 100,000 feedback with 94% positive so they sound legit. Guess it's worth a shot.

[kndy]

Oh my...even the Noir set, Sam Fuller set, Criterion Bergman, Eclipse series....this is insane!!! I missed out on Akerman....I had it in my cart...but it sold out.