The Criterion Collection

[aes3728]

Originally Posted by javi92

Criterion going back to separate DVD and blu-ray releases starting in September.

http://www.criterion.com/current/posts?category=On+Five

All that work into making a 3 disc case and we get it for 3 months.

[Clare2904]

Originally Posted by Polaroid

If you don't mind wax! :P Has a candle in it lol - was a nice bottle and went well with my other empty bottles lol

[smoss469]

I say stop the DVD releases entirely. Seriously, who is going to shell out $20 per CC release when your decent BD player can be bought for $40-$50? Are you saying people would shell out $20 for a single DVD but would flat out refuse to get a player that plays both BD's and DVD's and stop buying your product as a result?

I know a lot of people say they do it for libraries and things like that but that has to be a huge minority of their business.

[Clare2904]

Originally Posted by smoss469

I say stop the DVD releases entirely. Seriously, who is going to shell out $20 per CC release when your decent BD player can be bought for $40-$50? Are you saying people would shell out $20 for a single DVD but would flat out refuse to get a player that plays both BD's and DVD's and still remain a customer?

I'm not buying it. I know a lot of people say they do it for libraries and things like that but that's also a stretch I think.

Maybe some have the mentality that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Has everyone got a 3D TV? I know some people who don't have a HD TV, why, because they don't NEED one. Do you upgrade other household appliances when a bigger, better model comes out?

[TheDot]

Originally Posted by Clare2904

Maybe some have the mentality that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Has everyone got a 3D TV? I know some people who don't have a HD TV, why, because they don't NEED one. Do you upgrade other household appliances when a bigger, better model comes out?

No but their food will still taste the same when they do upgrade

Blu-ray players are stupidly cheap now. Majority of collectors willing to the pay the premium price Criterion ask should be able to get themselves a budget model at the least.

And there DVDs will still play all the same

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by Clare2904

Maybe some have the mentality that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Has everyone got a 3D TV? I know some people who don't have a HD TV, why, because they don't NEED one. Do you upgrade other household appliances when a bigger, better model comes out?

My HDTV is vintage 2006 and I'll only replace it when it can't be repaired. I'd love to have deep pockets and be able to buy lots of blurays and keep up with home theater technology but reality steps in and rears it's ugly head. The dual format didn't bother me since I was neutral concerning Digipaks vs plastic cases.

[JackTwist]

Is anyone going to pick up Plain Archive's release of Blue is the Warmest Color that goes live this evening? The edition is limited to 400 for international customers. Their release of Melancholia is sublime!

For this release, there is the whole issue of how many copies of one movie does one need. There is the inevitable special edition later this year that I cannot wait for and I already have the barebones theatrical edition Criterion released earlier this year. So that's my debate. Anyone biting on the Plain Archive release?

[RandyK]

I bet Scanavo is a little annoyed lol.

[ultlife2013]

How is 20 dollars for a criterion now a premium price? I thought 20 dollars was a good price for a bluray movie. The bar keeps being lowered, how long until 10 dollars is a premium price? For the work that criterion puts into a release I don't see 20 dollars being some high end price for the whole package.

[Polaroid]

I love Dual Format :/ I don't want to buy a second Bluray player (and ship it to UK) just to watch in bedroom.....

[StLouisRibs]

I understand it but I don't like it.

On the other hand, now I have quite a few DVDs I'd like to buy knowing they won't be upgraded to DF in future; I was afraid of splurging $80 on Human Condition if they were to come out with a DF edition with the same exact content very soon after!

[BLUgrass]

Im sure this has been discussed before, but does Criterion have some specific criteria for the kinds of movies they release? Or is it mainly half the type of movie and half whatever they can get lisencing for?

For example, if for the sake of argument a big Hollywood movie that would make a ton of $ became available to them, are they likely to go ahead with it or pass because it doesnt meet the art/social significance they want to embody in their releases?

Im just curious because many of their releases seem to fit perfectly with their little mission statement on the back covers, some seem a little over the top and self indulgent with the artistic douche baggery, and others seem to not fit in that well at all (like Armageddon, though I know that isn't a Criterion blu ray release)

[Polaroid]

Im so annoyed.

First they take the beautiful Digipaks from me for the new plastic case... now they remove Dual Format....

I am so boycotting Criterion for life. (until Monday :P)

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by JackTwist

Is anyone going to pick up Plain Archive's release of Blue is the Warmest Color that goes live this evening? The edition is limited to 400 for international customers. Their release of Melancholia is sublime!

For this release, there is the whole issue of how many copies of one movie does one need. There is the inevitable special edition later this year that I cannot wait for and I already have the barebones theatrical edition Criterion released earlier this year. So that's my debate. Anyone biting on the Plain Archive release?

I am, they are a superb company and I know the founder, a great friend.

I have all their releases so far, including their OOP releases from previous company (Original Melancholia and Tree of life).

They deserve the support - their releases are stunning and the quality that goes into the release is truly inspiring.

[Clare2904]

Originally Posted by Polaroid

Im so annoyed.

First they take the beautiful Digipaks from me for the new plastic case... now they remove Dual Format....

I am so boycotting Criterion for life. (until Monday :P)

Says who?

[ultlife2013]

Originally Posted by jonschmidt

Im sure this has been discussed before, but does Criterion have some specific criteria for the kinds of movies they release? Or is it mainly half the type of movie and half whatever they can get lisencing for?

For example, if for the sake of argument a big Hollywood movie that would make a ton of $ became available to them, are they likely to go ahead with it or pass because it doesnt meet the art/social significance they want to embody in their releases?

Im just curious because many of their releases seem to fit perfectly with their little mission statement on the back covers, some seem a little over the top and self indulgent with the artistic douche baggery, and others seem to not fit in that well at all (like Armageddon, though I know that isn't a Criterion blu ray release)

Artistic douche baggery? Very nice choice words there.

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by Clare2904

Says who?

Criterion :P

[MitchA17]

Posted this as a comment on the announcement.

I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm somewhat upset at this news. I made the upgrade to Blu-ray in home viewing years ago, but I have a laptop that is only compatible with DVDs. I also have friends who I could loan the DVDs too, and a younger sister who lives far away from me who borrowed the DVDs so we didn't end up buying the same release twice. People complained about the digipacks, but I loved the aesthetic and the "importance" of the packaging (Fantastic Mr. Fox and Persona are simply beautiful packages).

Part of my dislike of this is that it has an undertone of acceptance that physical media is coming to an end, that people would rather make the jump from DVD to digital/streaming than upgrade to Blu-ray. I saw the Dual Format releases as a helpful transition of sorts, a method for those who weren't upgraded to pay slightly more for an incentive to upgrade, and for Blu viewers to use the DVDs similarly to how I used them. I don't wish to propagate conjecture (and there is certainly no solid evidence of this), but this feels like an acceptance that where we're at now, DVD and Blu-ray, is the end of physical media, to be abandoned for a step down in quality and quantity.

But ultimately, if Criterion continues its spectacular output of classic and important films, I'll continue to support them. I applaud them for making the step into Dual Release, no matter how brief it was. Here's to 5 more years of Blu-ray, and here's hoping we'll continue to see classic films upgraded to the best possible condition, and discover new films we never would've heard of otherwise.

[Polaroid]

Id hate for Criterion to go completely digital.

I adore having the physical copy and the beautiful artwork on my shelf.

I feel like I own it, with digital I never feel like I own it lol

[Clare2904]

Originally Posted by Polaroid

Criterion :P

I missed the announcement then.