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Old 06-17-2010, 12:55 PM   #11221
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Since i read that the MOC Fantastic Planet release is gonna be region coded I had hopes that possibly Criterion would get the rights to release the film, but I would assume that the company who released the last US DVD version still has possession. Would be a waste to not get a region A release esp if there is a new HD restored version out there.

Any thoughts?
Yes PP...I'm bummed about that as well. This is a film that I saw in the cinema when it was first released in the US (gives you an idea about my age ). It made a major impression on me, even at the tender age of 15. I've since bought it on DVD (the first US release) and have wondered/hoped that I would get a chance to own it on BD.

The first US version was released by Starz/Anchor Bay and the latest DVD version by ACCENT CINEMA, so your guess is as good as mine, as to who currently owns the "rights" to it.

I know that Criterion (at least since the LD/early DVD days) have not released any animation titles, but I really think that this would be a GREAT first choice...a great second choice might be/would be Yellow Submarine, but MGM/UA still owns the rights to that (I believe).

You've got my vote of YEA!
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:09 PM   #11222
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That's pretty high praise for Fantastic Planet..... I have never seen it, I may look into that.....

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I know that Criterion (at least since the LD/early DVD days) have not released any animation titles, but I really think that this would be a GREAT first choice...a great second choice might be/would be Yellow Submarine, but MGM/UA still owns the rights to that (I believe).
I can't wait for Yellow Submarine to be released on Blu-ray by "someone" ...... I look at the flashbacks as free-entertainment
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I think the Criterion Thread deserves its own forum category or child forum(for lack of a better word) like "Blu-ray Movies - North America" or "Blu-ray Movies - international"

At over 11,000 replies its impossible to find anything useful and the reply count is many times more then every post in the majority of other forum sub categories. Like in the Displays and Audio forums...etc
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:16 PM   #11224
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That's pretty high praise for Fantastic Planet..... I have never seen it, I may look into that.....



I can't wait for Yellow Submarine to be released on Blu-ray by "someone" ...... I look at the flashbacks as free-entertainment
I know it as La Planete Sauvage, use to play a lot of TV here up to the mid 80's. I have not seen it in a long long time. Been thinking of getting the DVD but if it was any chances Criterion would release it I would wait for that
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At over 11,000 replies its impossible to find anything useful
What information is it exactly that you consider to be "useful" but can't find? All the reviews are listed on the first page, as well as the information for replacement cases.

If you're not finding what you need right away, you're either gonna have to...
a) read through the entire thread,
b) post a question in the forum and hope for an answer,
c) search the Internet (ie. Criterion, Criterion Forum, Criterion Cast, etc.) for the information that you seek,
d) visit this thread daily to stay on top of all the "useful," or useless, information, or
e) use the 'Search' function and hope for the best.

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Old 06-17-2010, 01:42 PM   #11226
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I know it as La Planete Sauvage, use to play a lot of TV here up to the mid 80's. I have not seen it in a long long time. Been thinking of getting the DVD but if it was any chances Criterion would release it I would wait for that
I just added it to the Netflix queue...... looks interesting....
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That's pretty high praise for Fantastic Planet..... I have never seen it, I may look into that.....



I can't wait for Yellow Submarine to be released on Blu-ray by "someone" ...... I look at the flashbacks as free-entertainment
LOL...considering the fact that Yellow Submarine almost didn't get made (much like Blade Runner) and was helmed by a man that had worked on Popeye (Al Brodax). I've got the "now OOP" DVD and it's great just having the songs in 5.1. There was already a restoration done for the DVD, so I can't believe that a BD transfer/scan would be that much of an issue.

Back to Fantastic Planet...

Not only was it such a visually beautiful movie, but it was very heady. I guess a sign of the times in the early 70's.

I really hope that someone (Criterion would be a wonderful choice) releases this on BD in the near future.
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ordered another "Man Who Fell.." from Criterion, and was surprised and bummed to receive another "paper case" version.
I ordered it basically to get a plastic case version because I mistakenly thought that's what would be sent.
I thought they had plastic case versions now for all titles.
maybe they never actually pressed any for this one; but just offer the replacement cases.
anybody ever order this and get a sealed plastic case version?
thanks.

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Old 06-17-2010, 01:47 PM   #11229
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I've got the "now OOP" DVD and it's great just having the songs in 5.1. There was already a restoration done for the DVD, so I can't believe that a BD transfer/scan would be that much of an issue.
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I didn't realize it was OOP (I also own it....) and I can certainly believe that it had a new restoration, as it is a fantastic looking DVD..... but the audio is certainly the real treat........ one particular part of "Nowhere Man" was down right spooky!
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the dvd is OOP, but it's also not the original film.
It is another unfortunate example of revisionist history gone amok.
not many people realize that there are many differences between the original theatrical film--which is only available on VHS--and the "new" restored version.
they must have consulted George Lucas when planning the dvd.

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Old 06-17-2010, 01:55 PM   #11231
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I didn't realize it was OOP (I also own it....) and I can certainly believe that it had a new restoration, as it is a fantastic looking DVD..... but the audio is certainly the real treat........ one particular part of "Nowhere Man" was down right spooky!

YEAH! I had never thought about that...but you're right. There's something about the animation and the way that the sound was mixed on that song that makes it a bit eery.

I also like the way they open Eleanor Rigby with the smoke stacks belching out smoke in unison...gives the subwoofer a bit of a workout and it was timed nicely with the vocals in the beginning of the song. I've got an autistic 7 year old and this is one of his favorite movies (autistic kids seem to love the Beatles). Whenever he hears those smoke stacks pushing the subwoofer, he bolts into the room...loves that Eleanor Rigby!
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the dvd is OOP, but it's also not the original film.
It is another example of revisionist history.
not many people realize that there are many differences between the original theatrical film--which is only available on VHS--and the "new" restored version.
they must have consulted George Lucas when planning the dvd.
The version released in the cinemas in the UK was a longer version. The US version was shorter, due to the exclusion of the "Hey Bulldog" segment. The feeling was that it lengthened the movie and didn't further the plot. The DVD included that segment (thankfully).

OK...I'll bite...what other differences are there?

This is another film that I saw in the theaters when it first came out (that would have made me about 10 or so). It only took about 30 years to clean it up and release it for home viewing.
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The version released in the cinemas in the UK was a longer version. The US version was shorter, due to the exclusion of the "Hey Bulldog" segment. The feeling was that it lengthened the movie and didn't further the plot. The DVD included that segment (thankfully).

OK...I'll bite...what other differences are there?

This is another film that I saw in the theaters when it first came out (that would have made me about 10 or so). It only took about 30 years to clean it up and release it for home viewing.
Now I'm truly confused........ I'm almost POSITIVE my DVD includes "Hey Bulldog" and if I'm not mistaken, the animation is of the Blue-Meanie holding a three headed-dog (or perhaps it was three dogs) by a leash that were barking and trying to get at 'someone'

Is that correct, or did I fill in the empty spaces of my mind with hallucinations?
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Now I'm truly confused........ I'm almost POSITIVE my DVD includes "Hey Bulldog" and if I'm not mistaken, the animation is of the Blue-Meanie holding a three headed-dog (or perhaps it was three dogs) by a leash that were barking and trying to get at 'someone'

Is that correct, or did I fill in the empty spaces of my mind with hallucinations?
LOL...no Beta...you're correct. The 1999 DVD release (at least in the US) is the "UK" version of the movie, that includes the "Hey Bulldog" segment with the three-headed dog and John singing and taunting the "dog" with a bone from inside of the player piano.

When I saw the US version at the movies in 1968/69, that segment wasn't in the film. I was scratching my head as well when I first saw it on DVD and said, "geez...I don't remember seeing this scene..."
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...considering the fact that Yellow Submarine almost didn't get made (much like Blade Runner) and was helmed by a man that had worked on Popeye (Al Brodax). I've got the "now OOP" DVD and it's great just having the songs in 5.1. There was already a restoration done for the DVD, so I can't believe that a BD transfer/scan would be that much of an issue...
My guess is that we won't see a Blu-ray release of "Yellow Submarine" before Robert Zemeckis releases his GGI remake.
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QUOTE=rkish;3396358]The version released in the cinemas in the UK was a longer version. The US version was shorter, due to the exclusion of the "Hey Bulldog" segment. The feeling was that it lengthened the movie and didn't further the plot. The DVD included that segment (thankfully).

OK...I'll bite...what other differences are there?

This is another film that I saw in the theaters when it first came out (that would have made me about 10 or so). It only took about 30 years to clean it up and release it for home viewing.
that's part of it for sure.
I may have actually been thinking about another film with more extensive changes to tell you the truth.
I just knew that there were some differences.
I don't think I realized the original UK film had the "Hey Bulldog" sequence.
I have the VHS tape and have been meaning to make my own direct comparison for some time.
I honestly though I had read long ago that the order of some of the sequences had been changed somewhat, but I'm not finding evidence of that at the moment.
maybe I ate too many shrooms myself one time.
I think there may be other color timing changes plus definitely sound differences from new mixes of the soundtrack and what not.

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If its the same as last year, it's 50% off the msrp, so yeah, about $20 a title. sadly i wasn't a purveyor of this site at the time and didn't know about a lot of the coupons, but from what i hear some people were getting items as low as $13, in some cases. a definite perk this year is that B&N now have free shipping for members. last year for the winter sale i had my prime trial with amazon and right when the B&N sale was coming to an end, Amazon did a criterion sale for at least two weeks, most at about the same deals. One of my good friends is a B&N employee and is keeping an eye out for me for any official announcement dates, although she did say it has been discussed amongst employees/managers as something happening soon.
yeah, I got a bunch at $13. If I recall, the breakdown was:

$40 MSRP
-$20 (50% off)
-$5 ($5 off coupon - some stores took one for each film, some wouldn't)
-$2.25 (15% off B&N membership)
=$12.75 + tax

Can they do the B&N 15% off first, and then the 50%? Even without the $5 coupon that would take it down from $40 to $34 to $17.
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This is usually posted by Pro-B but hope he doesn't mind if I posted the press release info for the September releases:

BREATHLESS - BD
There was before Breathless, and there was after Breathless. Jean-Luc Godard (Band of Outsiders, Masculin féminin) burst onto the film scene in 1960 with this jazzy, free-form, and sexy homage to the American film genres that inspired him as a writer for Cahiers du cinéma. With its lack of polish, surplus of attitude, anything-goes crime narrative, and effervescent young stars Jean-Paul Belmondo (Classe tous risques, Pierrot le fou) and Jean Seberg (Saint Joan, Bonjour tristesse), Breathless helped launch the French New Wave and ensured that cinema would never be the same.

1960 • 90 minutes • Black & White • Monaural • In French with English subtitles • 1.33:1 aspect ratio

BLU-RAY SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
• Restored high-definition digital transfer, approved by director of photography Raoul Coutard, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
• Archival interviews with director Jean-Luc Godard and actors Jean-Paul Belmondo, Jean Seberg, and Jean-Pierre Melville
• Video interviews with Coutard, assistant director Pierre Rissient, and filmmaker D. A. Pennebaker
• Video essays: one on Jean Seberg and one on Breathless as film criticism
• Chambre 12, Hôtel du suède, an eighty-minute documentary about the making of Breathless
• Charlotte et son Jules, a 1959 short by Godard starring Belmondo
• French theatrical trailer
• PLUS: A booklet featuring writings by Godard and film historian Dudley Andrew, François Truffaut’s original film treatment, and Godard’s scenario

TITLE: Breathless (BLU-RAY EDITION)
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UPC: 7-15515-06371-5
ISBN: 978-1-60465-337-3
SRP: $39.95
PREBOOK: 8/17/10
STREET: 9/14/10

CHARADE - BD
In this deliciously dark comedic thriller, a trio of crooks relentlessly pursue a young American, played by Audrey Hepburn (Roman Holiday, Breakfast at Tiffany’s), outfitted in gorgeous Givenchy, through Paris in an attempt to recover the fortune her dead husband stole from them. The only person she can trust is a suave, mysterious stranger, played by Cary Grant (Bringing Up Baby, North by Northwest). Director Stanley Donen (On the Town, Singin’ in the Rain, Two for the Road) goes splendidly Hitchcockian for Charade, a glittering emblem of sixties style and macabre wit.

1963 • 113 minutes • Color • Monaural • 1.85:1 aspect ratio

BLU-RAY SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
• Restored high-definition digital transfer, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
• Audio commentary featuring director Stanley Donen and screenwriter Peter Stone
• Original theatrical trailer
• PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by film historian Bruce Eder

TITLE: Charade (BLU-RAY EDITION)
CAT. NO: CC1925BD
UPC: 7-15515-06171-1
ISBN: 978-1-60465-313-7
SRP: $39.95
PREBOOK: 8/24/10
STREET: 9/21/10

MERRY CHRISTMAS MR. LAWRENCE – DVD & BD
In this captivating, exhilaratingly skewed World War II drama from Nagisa Oshima (In the Realm of the Senses, Empire of Passion), David Bowie (The Man Who Fell to Earth, Basquiat) regally embodies the character Celliers, a high-ranking British officer interned by the Japanese as a POW. Music star Ryuichi Sakamoto (who also composed this film’s hypnotic score) plays the camp commander, who becomes obsessed with the mysterious blond major, while Tom Conti (The Duellists; Reuben, Reuben) is British lieutenant colonel Mr. Lawrence, who tries to bridge the emotional and language divides between his captors and fellow prisoners. Also featuring actor-director Takeshi Kitano (Sonatine, Fireworks) in his first dramatic role, Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence is a multilayered, brutal, at times erotic tale of culture clash that was one of Oshima’s greatest successes.

1983 • 124 minutes • Color • Stereo • In English and Japanese with English subtitles • 1.78:1 aspect ratio

SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
• New, restored high-definition master (with DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray edition)
• The Oshima Gang, an original making-of featurette
• New video interviews with producer Jeremy Thomas, screenwriter Paul Mayersberg, actor Tom Conti, and actor-composer Ryuichi Sakamoto
• Hasten Slowly, an hour-long documentary about author and adventurer Laurens van der Post, whose autobiographical novel is the basis for the film
• Original theatrical trailer
• PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by film writer Chuck Stephens and a 1983 interview with director Nagisa Oshima by Japanese film writer Tadao Sato

TITLE: Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence (2-DISC DVD EDITION)
CAT. NO: CC1928D
UPC: 7-15515-06191-9
ISBN: 978-1-60465-315-1
SRP: $29.95
PREBOOK: 8/31/10
STREET: 9/28/10

TITLE: Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence (BLU-RAY EDITION)
CAT. NO: CC1929BD
UPC: 7-15515-06201-5
ISBN: 978-1-60465-316-8
SRP: $39.95
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STREET: 9/28/10

THE THIN RED LINE – DVD & BD
After directing two of the most extraordinary movies of the 1970s, Badlands and Days of Heaven, American artist Terrence Malick disappeared from the film world for twenty years, only to resurface in 1998 with this visionary adaptation of James Jones’s 1962 novel about the World War II battle for Guadalcanal. A big-budget, spectacularly mounted epic, The Thin Red Line is also one of the most deeply philosophical films ever released by a major Hollywood studio, a thought-provoking meditation on man, nature, and violence. Featuring a cast of contemporary cinema’s finest actors—Sean Penn (Dead Man Walking, Milk), Nick Nolte (The Prince of Tides, Affliction), Elias Koteas (Zodiac, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button), and Woody Harrelson (Natural Born Killers, The People vs. Larry Flynt) among them—The Thin Red Line is a kaleidoscopic evocation of the experience of combat that ranks as one of cinema’s greatest war films.

1998 • 170 minutes • Color • Surround • 2.35:1 aspect ratio

DIRECTOR-APPROVED SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
• New, restored high-definition digital transfer, approved by director Terrence Malick and cinematographer John Toll (with DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray edition)
• New audio commentary featuring Toll, production designer Jack Fisk, and producer Grant Hill
• Outtakes from the film
• Video interviews with several of the film’s actors, including Jim Caviezel, Elias Koteas, and Sean Penn; composer Hans Zimmer; editors Billy Weber, Leslie Jones, and Saar Klein; and writer James Jones’s daughter Kaylie Jones
• New video interview with casting director Dianne Crittenden, featuring original audition footage
• World War II newsreels featuring footage from Guadalcanal
• Original theatrical trailer
• PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by film critic David Sterritt and a 1963 essay by James Jones on war films

TITLE: The Thin Red Line (2-DISC DVD EDITION)
CAT. NO: CC1932D
UPC: 7-15515-06231-2
ISBN: 978-1-60465-319-9
SRP: $29.95
PREBOOK: 8/31/10
STREET: 9/28/10

TITLE: The Thin Red Line (BLU-RAY EDITION)
CAT. NO: CC1933BD
UPC: 7-15515-06241-1
ISBN: 978-1-60465-320-5
SRP: $39.95
PREBOOK: 8/31/10
STREET: 9/28/10

ECLIPSE SERIES 24: THE ACTUALITY DRAMAS OF ALLAN KING

Canadian director Allan King is one of cinema’s best-kept secrets. Over the course of fifty years, King shuttled between features and shorts, big-screen cinema and episodic television, comedy and drama, fiction and nonfiction. Within this remarkably varied career, it was with his cinema-verité-style documentaries—his “actuality dramas,” as he called them—that he left his greatest mark on film history. These startlingly intimate studies of lives in flux—emotionally troubled children, warring spouses, and the terminally ill—are riveting, at times emotionally overwhelming, and always depicted without narration or interviews. Humane, cathartic, and important, Allan King’s spontaneous portraits of the everyday demand to be seen.

FIVE-DVD BOX SET INCLUDES:

Warrendale
For his enthralling first feature, Allan King brought his cameras to a home for psychologically disturbed young people. Situated inside the facility like flies on the wall, we get full access to the wide spectrum of emotions displayed by twelve
fascinating children and the caregivers trying to nurture and guide them. The
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stunning Warrendale won the Prix d’art et d’essai at Cannes and a special docu¬mentary award from the National Society of Film Critics.

1967 • 101 minutes • Black & White • Monaural • 1.33:1 aspect ratio

A Married Couple
Billy and Antoinette Edwards let it all hang out for Allan King and crew in this jaw-dropping documentary of a marriage gone haywire that “makes John Cassavetes’s Faces look like early Doris Day” (Time). Intense and hectic, frightening and funny, A Married Couple is ultimately about the eternal power struggle in romantic relationships, as well as entrenched gender roles on the cusp of change.

1969 • 96 minutes • Color • Monaural • 1.33:1 aspect ratio

Come On Children
In the early 1970s, ten teenagers (five boys and five girls) leave behind parents, school, and all other authority figures to live on a farm for ten weeks. What emerges in front of Allan King’s cameras is the fears, hopes, and alienation of a disillusioned generation. Come On Children is a swiftly paced, vivid rendering of one of the twentieth century’s most remarkable—and ultimately directionless—countercultures.

1972 • 95 minutes • Color • Monaural • 1.66:1 aspect ratio

Dying at Grace
An extraordinary, transformative experience, Allan King’s Dying at Grace is quite simply unprecedented: five terminally ill cancer patients allowed the director access to their final months and days inside the Toronto Grace Health Care Center. The result is an unflinching, enormously empathetic contemplation of death, featuring a handful of the most memorable people ever captured on film.

2003 • 143 minutes • Color • Monaural • 1.77:1 aspect ratio

Memory for Max, Claire, Ida and Company
Allan King brings us close to the people who reside and work in a home for geriatric care in this beautifully conceived, powerful documentary. For four months, King follows the daily routines of eight patients suffering from dementia and memory loss; the result is searing, compassionate drama that can bring to the viewer a greater understanding of his or her loved ones.

2005 • 112 minutes • Color • Monaural • 1.78:1 aspect ratio

TITLE: Eclipse Series 24: The Actuality Dramas of Allan King
CAT. NO: ECL109
UPC: 7-15515-06421-7
ISBN: 978-1-60465-342-7
SRP: $69.95
PREBOOK: 8/24/10
STREET: 9/21/10
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Too busy to give us the artwork along with the textual information, kndy?

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Just watched The Wages of Fear for the first time the other night....wow! What an incredible film! This has to be one of my favorite CC's at the moment, even after viewing Pierret le Fou, Walkabout, Marienbad, Stagecoach, M, and some of the Brakhage Anthology for the first time as well.

I still have quite a bit to go through this summer as I make my way through my collection, but I can only imagine something that would top it.

Next up: Revanche, Playtime, and The 400 Blows...

-Dave (psyched about Charade)
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