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[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

How about Godard and Michael Bay join forces for a film? Just imagine how much cooler Vivre Sa Vie or Pierrot would have been with explosions and special effects.

Michael Bay can't make anything cooler. Flip it around. Godard doing Transformers would be cooler, not adding Bay to a Godard film.



Plus Godard doesn't need to do CGI. He is fine with video.

[Volume11]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Michael Bay can't make anything cooler. Flip it around. Godard doing Transformers would be cooler, not adding Bay to a Godard film.



Plus Godard doesn't need to do CGI. He is fine with video.

He and Bay are both stubborn and difficult to work with (or "for" if you were to ask them)...

I refuse to admit he exists. He died in 1971. Everything that has his name on it thereafter is a Hong Kong made film trying to cash in on his once proud name.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by retablo

See, now if Godard was truly the visionary he once was,

Why does people say that? "once was"? How many Godard films have you watched made after 1980? Just seems like a fad thing to say. If anything, he has more fresh ideas now with his films than his New Wave period. People just hates that he uses video now. It's something different, not every film and director has to look the same.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Volume11

I refuse to admit he exists. He died in 1971. Everything that has his name on it thereafter is a Hong Kong made film trying to cash in on his once proud name.

Can you list the films you seen of his after 1971 then please? Plus how is he cashing in? Not like he is trying to be in the public eye like Bay. Dude didn't even show up for his Cannes film. Bring this up again when Godard does a film with giant robots and Megan Fox.

People comparing a film changer to a money-cashing, Spielberg learning punk.

[stobbart]

Anyone know if B&N will offer the recently OOP titles during their sale next month? I plan to buy most of the ones on the most recent list but am debating if I should wait (as it would save me a good amount of money) or just order them through Criterion.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by stobbart

Anyone know if B&N will offer the recently OOP titles during their sale next month? I plan to buy most of the ones on the most recent list but am debating if I should wait (as it would save me a good amount of money) or just order them through Criterion.

Anything they have stock of at the time should be in the sale, including OOP titles.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Michael Bay can't make anything cooler. Flip it around. Godard doing Transformers would be cooler, not adding Bay to a Godard film.



Plus Godard doesn't need to do CGI. He is fine with video.

A Transformers film directed by Godard scares me far more than a Godard film directed by Michael Bay.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

A Transformers film directed by Godard scares me far more than a Godard film directed by Michael Bay.

Being scared is sometimes a good thing with films. Don't want safe do you? Well millions of people do I guess, or Spielberg wouldn't be as famous as he is.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Being scared is sometimes a good thing with films. Don't want safe do you? Well millions of people do I guess, or Spielberg wouldn't be as famous as he is.

Haha that is true. Drives me nuts when I read the subwoofer and audio forums on this site and people gush about how awesome War of the Worlds Blu is with their system. The film sucked.

Said it before and I'll say it again. Spielberg's early films were very good but have seriously diminished in quality in the decades since.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Haha that is true. Drives me nuts when I read the subwoofer and audio forums on this site and people gush about how awesome War of the Worlds Blu is with their system. The film sucked.

Said it before and I'll say it again. Spielberg's early films were very good but have seriously diminished in quality in the decades since.

Well fame, money, and the fact that he is the master of putting out typical "black & white" emotional films will carry someone for a long time. Hollywood loves this dude because he doesn't do anything "controversial" or changes up with fresh ideas or new directions. He stays the course and makes films that doesn't "offend" the masses. Hence, "safe" and Hollywood's "golden boy".

[ChadFL]

Well it's now been 14 days and counting since Deep Discount allegedly sent my Mystery Train Blu and still no sign of it. Guess their shipment facility is in the North Pole.

[JediFonger]

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[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Well fame, money, and the fact that he is the master of putting out typical "black & white" emotional films will carry someone for a long time. Hollywood loves this dude because he doesn't do anything "controversial" or changes up with fresh ideas or new directions. He stays the course and makes films that doesn't "offend" the masses. Hence, "safe" and Hollywood's "golden boy".

Come on now, what's safe about his next projects: The Adventures of Tintin: Secret of the Unicorn and Lincoln (no doubt a lovefest for the former President)?

[retablo]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Why does people say that? "once was"? How many Godard films have you watched made after 1980? Just seems like a fad thing to say. If anything, he has more fresh ideas now with his films than his New Wave period. People just hates that he uses video now. It's something different, not every film and director has to look the same.

Well I'm referring to his earliest films like Breathless, where he essentially re-invented film language. He hasn't made a statement like that, in my opinion, since Weekend. But that's just my opinion. It got to the point where he was more interested in being Godard than making coherent films. But I do admire his early years.

[ChadFL]

CG, any idea what the deal is with Godard's latest project Socialisme? It really sounded intereting to me but I've heard next to nothing about it lately. Did it ever come out in European theatres? Could it possibly come out on Criterion eventually?

[JediFonger]

chadfl:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2010...or_godard.html

[Volume11]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Can you list the films you seen of his after 1971 then please? Plus how is he cashing in? Not like he is trying to be in the public eye like Bay. Dude didn't even show up for his Cannes film. Bring this up again when Godard does a film with giant robots and Megan Fox.

People comparing a film changer to a money-cashing, Spielberg learning punk.

You'll be very lonely on your modern Godard island if you are seriously going to argue that his post 60s and 70s films are anything but a pompous man making pompous (and often times unwatchable) films for anybody but himself (which would be fine if they were good, they aren't). They come off like they are his less mature early films whereas his first 6 or 7 films seem like they were made by a more mature artist, albeit one with a smaller budget.

If I want to watch a film about anti-American, anti-consumerism, anti-anything Godard isn't into this month I'd bust out some of my vastly superior political science/philosophy texts, essays, and doctrines...

He is a living legend but his best and most influential days ended decades ago.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

CG, any idea what the deal is with Godard's latest project Socialisme? It really sounded intereting to me but I've heard next to nothing about it lately. Did it ever come out in European theatres? Could it possibly come out on Criterion eventually?

I hope it comes out to even dvd here in the U.S., but the fact is I highly doubt Criterion will release it. Let's just say I will be highly surprise if they release anything 1980s-now Godard.

Like every Godard movie, some people loves it. Hates it. And doesn't understand it. Which means it has to be good either way.



Volume11, I get what your saying, but I am not lonely on "modern Godard island". I do love his 60's films the most, but to dismiss everything after that is just the fad thing to do. Like I said before, I haven't watched everything post 1969, and I doubt anybody on here has either to give such a big opinion to say they suck. But there is alot of fans of modern Godard out there, and some will say Histoire(s) du cinéma was the best thing he has ever done. It's like a film history wrap-up in Godard's eyes. Not influential, I know, but important. Not everything has to be influential to have an affect on cinema.


retablo, I do admire his early years as well (being that prob my 3 fav Godards being Le Petit Soldat, Masculin féminin, & Vivre sa vie). I and everyone else knows he is in fact into himself. But that doesn't mean others can't either. Yes he hasn't made a statement to cinema as huge since Weekend, but because that statement was about the Death of Cinema for crying out loud. How can it get any bigger than that?

I'm just not one to dismiss films because it's the fad thing to do. I don't like everything he has done (New Wave or Modern) but I also love things he has done in both.

[capnnarcolepsy]

Originally Posted by fdm

Dunno, I think all the bruhaha was more about the nudity than anything else (I remember the newspaper ads for Yellow when I was a kid), trying to get them shown in the U.S. in the first place. They're certainly interesting as snapshots of their time, and I recall the supplements doing a fairly good job of providing a context, but I think that although the films and the supplements provide an interesting package, the films by themselves at this point aren't any great shakes (for lack of a better phrase).

Thanks for the reply and the info. From others I have recently talked to that have seen it, it seems to be the same notion, the film being of its time and possibly not holding up to the times. Much appreciated!

[capnnarcolepsy]

and as far as user names go, mine stems from my real life nickname, captain narcolepsy (what a stretch, eh?). when i was in my late teens, i had some really bad bouts of narcolepsy, just falling asleep all of the time. its nowhere near as bad nowadays, although its adverse effects are chronic insomnia and non-restfull sleep, which if you see the times of day i post, that could make sense. anyways, while talking with an old roomate about whatever, i fell asleep mid-conversation. when i awoke, his first words were, "Top o' the morning to ya, captain narcolepsy!". nearly 12 years later, most people still only know me or refer to me as Captain.

i went ahead and googled it too. looks like they are all me and specifically every single link on the first page seems to be twitter related in some form. it's taken over, my friends.