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jhiggy23 · 07-10-2010, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by retablo

Maybe you should try Sorcerer instead?

I found myself caring a great deal.. I don't think a character has to be by-the- numbers sympathetic to care about their fate. I mean, the joy of something like Psycho is that you inadvertently root for the killer. And I figure you'll say its a different character, etc, but its still the same principle.

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out. I agree that a character doesn't have to be blatantly sympathetic, but the characters in the film were very unlikeable. I think your Psycho reference is actually pretty apt, and I agree. I just don't think it happens here.

retablo · 07-10-2010, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out. I agree that a character doesn't have to be blatantly sympathetic, but the characters in the film were very unlikeable. I think your Psycho reference is actually pretty apt, and I agree. I just don't think it happens here.

Sorcerer was Friedken's American remake... with Roy Scheider.

I kind of like that they were "unlikeable." But I sorta liked Yves Montand's character by the end.

Beta Man · 07-10-2010, 04:38 AM

At one point the road becomes very winding....... almost "loop-like"

I think you need to watch it again

In all seriousness, I often express why I like, or dislike a film, but I wouldn't try to tell someone they 'should' have liked or disliked a film......

I am just not sure why the character's likability is that big of a factor for you. The overlying desire of everyone not to die makes it interesting to me, regardless of the character's the director used. The circumstances and struggle is what drives the film...... Some films you pull for the villain, other times for the hero, and occasionally you pull for that random dude.....

fdm · 07-10-2010, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JediFonger

i don't like it at all. i always like the movie posters =P

Me neither. I can see why it took them so long, because they are probably not all that happy with it either, but "that one" was the best they could come up with.

[In reality I think a lot of their artwork sucks any more, so there you go. Just yet another cover that doesn't really work for me.]

SolutionbubbleS · 07-10-2010, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by capnnarcolepsy

i'll pop it in in a bit and check and see if mine does it too.

Thanks for taking the time!

jcs913 · 07-10-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out. I agree that a character doesn't have to be blatantly sympathetic, but the characters in the film were very unlikeable. I think your Psycho reference is actually pretty apt, and I agree. I just don't think it happens here.

Jhiggy, I appreciate you explaining your point and understand where you are coming from, but still think you missed the point of what Clouzot was trying to do. The reason why I pointed it out was I believe you need to be careful when commenting on a film to others. Your comments could have turned many people off to a film that is considered one of the better films in the collection. IMO it is one of the building blocks to modern action/suspense films. But in the end, interested parties need to see one mans opinion is to be seen as an opinion.

panamablu · 07-10-2010, 02:53 PM

Don't know if posted before, but Charade and Breathless are up for preorder in Amazon @27.99 each.

ccfixx · 07-10-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by panamablu

Don't know if posted before, but Charade and Breathless are up for preorder in Amazon @27.99 each.

And don't forget "Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence" pre-order is up, as well.

CC

Kenneth M · 07-10-2010, 03:39 PM

When Amazon price matches B&N's 50% off sale, are their preorders price matched as well?

jhiggy23 · 07-10-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs913

Jhiggy, I appreciate you explaining your point and understand where you are coming from, but still think you missed the point of what Clouzot was trying to do. The reason why I pointed it out was I believe you need to be careful when commenting on a film to others. Your comments could have turned many people off to a film that is considered one of the better films in the collection. IMO it is one of the building blocks to modern action/suspense films. But in the end, interested parties need to see one mans opinion is to be seen as an opinion.

I certainly didn't mean to turn people off to it, but if they're turned off because of the opinion I presented, then that's their fault and not mine. Wages of Fear is considered one of the great films of all-time for a reason and I do think it's one of the best suspense films--I simply think it could have been ever better. It's not a film that I would tell people not to watch, because it's an important film. If they share my opinion, as others on this site have done, then that should because they think it and not because of my humble opinion. I do look forward to more of his films, though.

rkish · 07-10-2010, 04:18 PM

I got up EARLY today and watched a rental copy of Everlasting Moments...

A wonderful combination of a film well shot, directed, and acted...also a film that not only sucked me in emotionally, but I was able to relate to a lot of the dysfunction that was represented.

A very lovely film...and one that I will be adding to my collection next week!

jhiggy23 · 07-10-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rkish

I got up EARLY today and watched a rental copy of Everlasting Moments...

A wonderful combination of a film well shot, directed, and acted...also a film that not only sucked me in emotionally, but I was able to relate to a lot of the dysfunction that was represented.

A very lovely film...and one that I will be adding to my collection next week!

It is truly an incredible film and one of the gems so far of the Criterion collection.

ShellOilJunior · 07-10-2010, 05:53 PM

Speaking of Clouzot, Diabolique would make for an excellent blu-ray.

ccfixx · 07-10-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenneth M

When Amazon price matches B&N's 50% off sale, are their preorders price matched as well?

No, nothing is on sale past the final date of the sale.

CC

Yankees0222 · 07-10-2010, 10:34 PM

I just bought "Scenes From A Marriage" recently and I've been wanting to watch it but I'm not sure which version is best to watch first? Can anyone tell me if it would be best watch the tv version first or the us theatrical cut?

fdm · 07-10-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Yankees0222

I just bought "Scenes From A Marriage" recently and I've been wanting to watch it but I'm not sure which version is best to watch first? Can anyone tell me if it would be best watch the tv version first or the us theatrical cut?

I just watched them "in order". Was fine that way.

Remember this being on PBS (or whatever it was called then) back in the day, but never watched it that I can remember. Many years of curiosity finally (very) satisfied a year or so ago for me.

Still need to check out Saraband though. But heck, if Bergman could wait nearly 30 years to do the followup, suppose I can wait a few myself.

retablo · 07-10-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yankees0222

I just bought "Scenes From A Marriage" recently and I've been wanting to watch it but I'm not sure which version is best to watch first? Can anyone tell me if it would be best watch the tv version first or the us theatrical cut?

The TV version is the complete version that originally aired on television in Sweden. The U.S. edition is cut down by several hours to make a theatrical run time in the states more acceptable.

So, watch the TV version.

Louisville Slugger · 07-10-2010, 11:49 PM

Damn, so I went to two Barnes & Nobles and they didn't have Pierrot le fou.

ARGH! I wish I had seen this movie sooner.

Wonder if Amazon will include it if they match the 50% off sale.

jhiggy23 · 07-11-2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Louisville Slugger

Damn, so I went to two Barnes & Nobles and they didn't have Pierrot le fou.

ARGH! I wish I had seen this movie sooner.

Wonder if Amazon will include it if they match the 50% off sale.

Why not order it from the website or ask the guy in the store to order it for you? I'm sure they have some in their warehouses, despite it being OOP. There's two at my store.

Louisville Slugger · 07-11-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Why not order it from the website or ask the guy in the store to order it for you? I'm sure they have some in their warehouses, despite it being OOP. There's two at my store.

True, does anyone know when the sale usually starts online? Is it usually midnight EST time?

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07-10-2010, 04:38 AM	#12143
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	At one point the road becomes very winding....... almost "loop-like" I think you need to watch it again In all seriousness, I often express why I like, or dislike a film, but I wouldn't try to tell someone they 'should' have liked or disliked a film...... I am just not sure why the character's likability is that big of a factor for you. The overlying desire of everyone not to die makes it interesting to me, regardless of the character's the director used. The circumstances and struggle is what drives the film...... Some films you pull for the villain, other times for the hero, and occasionally you pull for that random dude.....

07-10-2010, 02:53 PM	#12147
panamablu Active Member Member since:Jul 2008 4K collection:377 Blu-ray collection:3152 DVD collection:279 Trading Score:1	Don't know if posted before, but Charade and Breathless are up for preorder in Amazon @27.99 each.

07-10-2010, 03:39 PM	#12149
Kenneth M Senior Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:US Blu-ray collection:307 Trading Score:1	When Amazon price matches B&N's 50% off sale, are their preorders price matched as well?

07-10-2010, 04:18 PM	#12151
rkish Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2008 Location:Dutchess County New York Blu-ray collection:581 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:1	I got up EARLY today and watched a rental copy of Everlasting Moments... A wonderful combination of a film well shot, directed, and acted...also a film that not only sucked me in emotionally, but I was able to relate to a lot of the dysfunction that was represented. A very lovely film...and one that I will be adding to my collection next week!

07-10-2010, 05:53 PM	#12153
ShellOilJunior Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:USA Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:10	Speaking of Clouzot, Diabolique would make for an excellent blu-ray.

07-10-2010, 10:34 PM	#12155
Yankees0222 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Colorado 4K collection:73 Blu-ray collection:1856 DVD collection:315 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:172	I just bought "Scenes From A Marriage" recently and I've been wanting to watch it but I'm not sure which version is best to watch first? Can anyone tell me if it would be best watch the tv version first or the us theatrical cut?

07-10-2010, 11:49 PM	#12158
Louisville Slugger Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Shrewsbury, MA Home Theater Gallery:58 4K collection:21 Blu-ray collection:838 Trading Score:3	Damn, so I went to two Barnes & Nobles and they didn't have Pierrot le fou. ARGH! I wish I had seen this movie sooner. Wonder if Amazon will include it if they match the 50% off sale.

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