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Old 04-25-2015, 09:54 PM   #124661
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3-disc set, too.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Galli...lu-ray/125494/
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That 3 Reasons trailer for Odd Man Out makes me want it even more. One of the best Criterion has put out. The good news is I have Odd Man Out on order. The bad news (well, not so bad really) is I ordered it from DVD Planet and it is taking its sweet time getting to me. When it comes to classic film noir from Criterion, I don't bother waiting months for a B&N sale. I need it now.
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I couldn't wait either. Bought it for $40! Don't judge me!

I actually like this film just as much as The Third Man.
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I may be in the minority here, but I almost think I like Odd Man Out more than The Third Man, that's how good the former is.
I watched Night Train To Munich (dir. Carol Reed, Rex Harrison, Margaret Lockwood, Paul Henreid [credited as "Hernreid" on the poster, "Paul von Hernried" in the film) t'other night on Netflux, not the greatest film, but a good example of a 1940, wartime suspense potboiler. Comic duo of Naunton Wayne and Basil Radford (The Lady Vanishes, Dead of Night) saunter through. Wonder if it's on DVD or BD somewhere...



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I've never seen the silent version of Blackmail; only the "talkie" edition since that's the only one TCM seems to show. At one time they were scheduled to show it on their Silent Sunday slot and host Ben Mankiewicz, obviously in a pre-recorded segment, went on and on about "rarely seen," "excited to present," etc and then proceeded to show the same old sound version! Oh well, maybe some day!
Haha, I think it was the silent version that I saw ... though my memory is telling me there was very scratchy audio.

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Old 04-25-2015, 10:48 PM   #124662
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Haha, I think it was the silent version that I saw ... though my memory is telling me there was very scratchy audio.
It's a typical early talkie audio wise-scratchy, with a lot of hiss and an absence of background music but with an added complication-leading lady Anny Ondra had a heavy accent which originally didn't matter but the sudden switch to sound made it necessary to overdub her voice. All these things would make for an interesting Criterion release if they could present both versions. I don't know who has the rights to the early Hitchcock's but at one time this one seemed to be a PD title.
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Old 04-26-2015, 12:51 AM   #124663
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I've only just noticed Rififi features an English dub track. It's the first time I notice Criterion featuring one of those, is this one of any particular significance?
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Speaking of Mad Max, I wonder if and when Criterion will release Peter Weir's Gallipoli.

I used to see Gallipoli on HBO during childhood, and, although 30 years have passed since my last viewing, I'd love to see it in the Collection.
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I really would like to see Weir's films upgraded to Blu-ray at a faster pace; right now it is just ridiculous that his early works are almost all absent (in the US anyway). Gallipoli is simply magnificent, a standout in the Australian New Wave, and one of the great war films of all time. I would love Criterion to release it, but it does not seem likely.
Talk about timely discussion.... I just realized today is the 100th anniversary of the start of the Gallipoli landings. The Anzacs spearheaded the assault.
April 25, 1915. I imagine today is a day of remembrance in Australia, New Zealand, and Turkey.

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Old 04-26-2015, 03:39 AM   #124665
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Old 04-26-2015, 05:07 AM   #124666
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In Carol Reed's 1947 film, Odd Man Out, Johnny McQueen, played by James Mason in what is perhaps his most vulnerable and sympathetic role, is introduced to us in the opening scenes as the "odd man out" who, despite his position as the local leader of an Irish nationalist organization, expresses a disdain for violence and is viewed as ineffective by fellow gang members who fear that his prison sentence and his subsequent stretch in a safe house have left him ill-equipped to conduct a dangerous payroll robbery. After the robbery goes wrong, a wounded McQueen wanders bleeding through dark city streets on his way to salvation. The next few hours of McQueen's life are marked by a series of encounters with various people who each provide different glimpses of life in a politically-fractured setting.

Odd Man Out, like Reed's 1949 noir masterpiece, The Third Man, serves almost as an overseas "darker evil twin" of Michael Curtiz's Casablanca. In Casablanca, characters are compelled to set aside their personal passions for the greater good in a rousing call-to-arms for World War II. By contrast, Reed's films acquaint us with characters who are all too willing to exploit wartime situations for personal profit. During McQueen's struggled trek through a traumatized Irish city, presumably Belfast, he stumbles across a number of characters who either view his plight as an opportunity for their own gain or are fearfully unwilling to stick out their neck one way or another to aid or hinder his progress. Reed's adaptation of F.L. Green's source novel downplays the politics of the Irish conflict at hand in favor of more intimate examinations of human nature in times of crisis. These bleak character interactions are my own justification for considering Odd Man Out to be a true film noir, as opposed to a mere politically-driven action drama. In the midst of all of these mixed agendas, one character's self-sacrifice provides the movie's most warm-hearted and emotionally cathartic moment.

Odd Man Out employs many of the same visual palettes that would be utilized in The Third Man. In both films, Reed and cinematographer Robert Krasker present a city in strife as a sinister and alienating environment where emotionally and physically wounded characters negotiate their way through unyielding cobblestone streets that lead into pitch-black shadows. In Odd Man Out, a series of early sequences, which feature McQueen outlining plans for the robbery, are visually depicted in a straightforward fashion reflective of the neorealist cinema of the time, but the character's downfall is represented by unsettlingly shaky point-of-view camera shots, shadowy noir cityscapes, and even surreal hallucinations. Many contemporary viewers may see visual narrative remnants of Reed's film in Martin Scorsese's Goodfellas, where Henry Hill's introduction into mob life plays out in luxuriously extended single takes while his subsequent nosedive into drug-fueled paranoia is shown with jerky and abrupt camera movements.

While I prefer Reed's The Third Man by a slight margin, I believe that Odd Man Out is a fascinating cinematic milestone that easily earns a five-star rating for movie content. I have always theorized that one can learn more about history by reading or watching fictional stories set in certain eras than one can learn from reading dry nonfiction textbooks or watching documentaries. Odd Man Out is a case in point, because the depictions of supporting characters in this film, with their varying motivations, provide me with a tangible understanding of what life must have been like for the bystanders in the conflict-torn Irish cities of the mid-20th century.

This Criterion Blu-ray of Odd Man Out looks impressive, and I think that the occasional softness of the restored images simply accentuates the hazy point-of-view of the lead character. Criterion's reputation for bringing older black-and-white classics to life is true to form with this title. The audio comes across well with audible dialogue and a great presentation of William Alwyn's interesting music score. A series of informative and fast-paced supplementary extras outline the history of Odd Man Out in terms of its inspirations and its place in British cinema. My favorite supplement, Postwar Poetry: Carol Reed and Odd Man Out, includes input from iconic directors Guy Hamilton and John Boorman.

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Old 04-26-2015, 07:47 AM   #124667
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Make Way for Tomorrow Blu-ray REVIEW



The transfer comes from the same old Universal master Eureka accessed for the Region-B release in 2010. However, there is plenty of additional work done here that tones down the light built-in sharpening and gives the film a much more stable organic appearance. (The grain also moves rather awkwardly on the Region-B release). Criterion's release is the one to own.

It is within the 4.25/5.00 mark for me. It looks a bit dated, but overall it is better balanced than Sullivan's Travels (also from an older Universal master). Ideally, now that we are 8+ years into Blu-ray's cycle, there should be new scans for these films.

Regardless, an American masterpiece that should not be missed.



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I'm only comparing based on the caps (I only own the MoC BD) but I don't like how the grain now looks on the Criterion BD.

It reminds me of the electronic look of Harakiri, which was due to the contrast-boosting applied by Criterion making the grain looking coarser.
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Old 04-26-2015, 01:09 PM   #124669
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I hope this has not been discussed in this massive thread, but I noticed this site has Night On Earth as a Criterion title, but no release date. Is that just due to Criterion putting out the DVD or is Criterion planing on releasing this fine film on blu-ray?
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I hope this has not been discussed in this massive thread, but I noticed this site has Night On Earth as a Criterion title, but no release date. Is that just due to Criterion putting out the DVD or is Criterion planing on releasing this fine film on blu-ray?
That's a user-created entry. There are others out there, too. Wouldn't mind having that film on blu-ray though
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Old 04-26-2015, 07:07 PM   #124671
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I'm only comparing based on the caps (I only own the MoC BD) but I don't like how the grain now looks on the Criterion BD.

It reminds me of the electronic look of Harakiri, which was due to the contrast-boosting applied by Criterion making the grain looking coarser.
Harakiri (Criterion) does not have an electronic look.

If anything, precisely the opposite is true here because it is the Eureka disc that has the built-in sharpening and light filtering (which is a common mix found on many, many old Universal masters). On the Criterion disc work has been done to remove these "improvements"

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Old 04-26-2015, 09:14 PM   #124672
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I'm only comparing based on the caps (I only own the MoC BD) but I don't like how the grain now looks on the Criterion BD.

It reminds me of the electronic look of Harakiri, which was due to the contrast-boosting applied by Criterion making the grain looking coarser.
I think Harakiri looks fine, but i agree that based on screen caps alone, i prefer the look of the MoC BD.

Although i have seen the MoC in motion don't remember PQ to be particularly great to be begin with.
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Just watched Ride the Pink Horse, fantastic addition to the collection, never heard of this movie before it was announced, sometimes i am a little hesitant to watch those films they add that seem very few people have seen them based on reviews, but i found that doesn't always mean they are lesser films, a lot of times it is probably because there is just not any disc available for people to see them, i guess now that Criterion has an edition out it is time they become more well known in a few years ahead.
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Of all the films that are already on blu-ray, Aguirre: The Wrath of God would be the one that most benefits from a Criterion release.

...the blu-ray that just came out has zero special features aside from the director's commentary.
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A lot of Herzog belongs in the Collection. It won't happen anytime soon, but it's weird that it hasn't happened before since he has participated in releases and of course the excellent Les Blank documentary Burden of Dreams is all about him.

I own the Shout box and have enjoyed what I've seen, but Criterion would do a lot more with the material.
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Man, I'd be all over a Gallipoli release - by anybody.
Same here. The SE DVD is quite good, but a blu release would be most welcome.
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Of all the films that are already on blu-ray, Aguirre: The Wrath of God would be the one that most benefits from a Criterion release.

...the blu-ray that just came out has zero special features aside from the director's commentary.
Herzog cut a deal with Shout. Some think he chose them over other boutique labels like Criterion because Shout released them all at once. Criterion most likely would've handled them the way they have Chaplin.
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I have the stand-alone Blu-rays of Werner Herzog's Aguirre: The Wrath of God, Nosferatu, and Fitzcarraldo. I also own the Blu-ray of Rescue Dawn.

I used to own the comprehensive Herzog DVD box sets back before I streamlined my DVD collection and, truth be told, I have no desire to see most of those movies again. I respect and appreciate the artistry and subversiveness of films like Heart of Glass and Even Dwarfs Started Small, but one viewing of those is enough for me. This is why I opted for the stand-alone discs of my favorites.
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Herzog cut a deal with Shout. Some think he chose them over other boutique labels like Criterion because Shout released them all at once. Criterion most likely would've handled them the way they have Chaplin.
When you say handled them the way they handled Chaplin, what do you mean?
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Man, I'd be all over a Gallipoli release - by anybody.
It was just released on blu ray in Australia. Not sure if it's region free or not.

Edit: According to the Gallipoli thread it's region free.

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