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AaronJ · 11-16-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WonderWeasel

I've been MIA for a few days, so I'm sure I'm a little behind on this:

Welcome back, Aaron. Glad to see they set you free.

Thank you.

As to the releases, I'm interested in I Knew Her Well, which I've always wanted to see but somehow never got around to doing so. It sounds like the sort of thing that I would greatly appreciate. Also, The Emigrants.

pedromvu · 11-16-2015, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by belcherman

Slightly disappointed that The Kid does not contain two full cuts of the film. The 4K restoration is from Chaplin's 1972 edit which removed about 15 minutes, almost a quarter of the film. The deleted scenes are included as extras, but I wish that they had managed to reassemble the 1921 original, giving us two complete versions as they did with The Gold Rush. It would have been nice to see the deleted scenes in context.

Oh, well.

Can you elaborate on the differences? I have seen this like 3 or 4 times, the last one like a year ago on Theaters because they were showing all of Chaplin films from recent restorations.

I think I have always seen the same version.

themp3000 · 11-16-2015, 10:42 PM

A very solid month of announcements. I'm in for The Graduate and The Kid. I'll more than likely pick up I Knew Her Well. Not particularly interested in the other two. Naturally, this could all change if a chance for a better release is announced before the Criterion comes along. Don't like "wasting" money or double dipping unnecessarily.

Knaldskalle · 11-16-2015, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Booze Movies

I don't blame Criterion for the lack of the 1921 version on the release. I'm sure the Chaplin family refused to let them include it. They have been adamant about only offering Chaplin's 1970's cuts on video. THE GOLD RUSH has been the only exception.

Still, the lack of the original release version will probably keep me from purchasing the Criterion disc. I'll stick with the Image DVD.

Criterion could probably include it if they really wanted to. It's my understanding that movies published in the US prior to 1923 are in the public domain, so it's "just" a matter of how determined they are to find a suitable print and how much they value their relationship with the Chaplin estate. Personally, I find the originals to be of much greater value, since that is what was seen by the public in theaters at the time and not some revisionist 50-years later version. The non--inclusion of the original version seriously dampens my interest in this one.

filmmusic · 11-16-2015, 10:46 PM

Is the original in one of the other BLuray releases around the world?

(by the way, the Bluray.com specs should be corrected in the duration)

Scottie · 11-16-2015, 11:04 PM

Criterion describes I Knew Her Well as a female version of La Dolce Vita. Sold.

belcherman · 11-16-2015, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pedromvu

Can you elaborate on the differences? I have seen this like 3 or 4 times, the last one like a year ago on Theaters because they were showing all of Chaplin films from recent restorations.

I think I have always seen the same version.

I'm honestly not sure. I've seen it a few times over the years, and I know I've seen both versions, but I've never done an A/B comparison, so I couldn't tell you for sure which scenes are in which version. I seem to recall that the earlier version has more slapstick, malice and mayhem, and the newer cut tightens the story to focus more on the sentiment aspects. If you're curious, there are streams of both versions on YouTube and elsewhere, just not in 4K HD.

I'll still pick this up, but it's no longer a day 1 buy for me. I'll wait for a sale.

CPinheiro · 11-16-2015, 11:14 PM

Putting Stefania Sandrelli's face for the cover like that is what I call aggressive marketing. Great month!

ShellOilJunior · 11-16-2015, 11:27 PM

I'm in for Chaplin and Troell.

The Emigrants/The New Land features Max Von Sydow and Liv Ullmann. Sold.

jhiggy23 · 11-16-2015, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by iScottie

Criterion describes I Knew Her Well as a female version of La Dolce Vita. Sold.

It sounds interesting. Anyone seen it?

jhiggy23 · 11-16-2015, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

I'm in for Chaplin and Troell.

The Emigrants/The New Land features Max Von Sydow and Liv Ullmann. Sold.

Have The Emigrants on dvr. Looking forward to watching it.

Scottie · 11-16-2015, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jhiggy23

It sounds interesting. Anyone seen it?

Is it sad that before today I had never heard of the film nor any of the cast and crew?

bwdowiak · 11-16-2015, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Polaroid

non Criterion related rant...

Why !!? Why do companies feel the need to remake and butcher great films..? Why not be creative and create new and exciting cinema. Especially with that statement, they clearly know it doesn't need a remake os why bother with all that wasted time and money. STUPID.

It's so depressing to think all these awesome film Criterion are releasing may be obsolete in future and people will be getting excited about a special edition of the Oldboy, Tale of Two Sisters and Memento remake.

My god...

Its so sad that people are being brought up around film that are just remakes like the above and even Annie and all those other awful attempts. Even those classic Disney films are being remade to live action garbage... Cinderella.. Beauty and the Beast (hey this is sort of Criterion related, awesome film in the collection!)...

Seriously.

STOP.

This doesn't bother me one iota. It isn't like they are desecrating the original films. The remakes will make more money than the original and in five years time, they'll be forgotten like Britney Spears' pop stardom.

bwdowiak · 11-16-2015, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iScottie

Is it sad that before today I had never heard of the film nor any of the cast and crew?

Sure you have - Jean-Claude Brialy (the 2 early Chabrol films, A Woman is a Woman, a few Bunuel films, etc.)

Franco Nero was in Bunuel's Tristana.. don't know if you've had a chance to see that one yet.

Scottie · 11-17-2015, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bwdowiak

Sure you have - Jean-Claude Brialy (the 2 early Chabrol films, A Woman is a Woman, a few Bunuel films, etc.)

Franco Nero was in Bunuel's Tristana.. don't know if you've had a chance to see that one yet.

Ah, you got me there. I guess I don't pay attention to names too often.

Also, I've seen Tristana and think it's a good film. Speaking of Buñuel, I'd be down for a Viridiana release.

Ray Jackson · 11-17-2015, 12:11 AM

I think this adequately sums up my reaction to today's announcements:

Polaroid · 11-17-2015, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bwdowiak

This doesn't bother me one iota. It isn't like they are desecrating the original films. The remakes will make more money than the original and in five years time, they'll be forgotten like Britney Spears' pop stardom.

Haha brilliant

jhiggy23 · 11-17-2015, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by iScottie

Is it sad that before today I had never heard of the film nor any of the cast and crew?

Neither have I!

oliver_67 · 11-17-2015, 02:09 AM

Fantastic lineup!

Will of course get all of them. This is a great month. The Emmigrants/The New Land are great movies.

My Criterion Collection
https://www.criterion.com/my_criteri...rry/collection

jw007 · 11-17-2015, 02:09 AM

Wow, what a strong February slate of releases. This is one of the best months in a long time for big titles and big directors.

The Graduate is an American masterpiece and one of the most influential films of all time. This will be a must-buy addition to my film library.

The Kid is only going to make my Criterion Chaplin collection look even more impressive. I'll buy this one too, happily.

Death by Hanging interests me too, as I own Oshima's other 2 Criterion blu-rays. A possible blind-buy it may be.

The Emigrants/The New Land is a pleasant curiosity. I need to watch these films first.

I Knew Her Well. I don't know much about this title and will research more.

11-17-2015, 02:09 AM	#137499
oliver_67 Active Member Member since:Jul 2014 4K collection:109 Blu-ray collection:8009 DVD collection:2607 MA collection:1	Fantastic lineup! Will of course get all of them. This is a great month. The Emmigrants/The New Land are great movies. My Criterion Collection https://www.criterion.com/my_criteri...rry/collection Last edited by oliver_67; 11-17-2015 at 02:52 AM.

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11-16-2015, 10:42 PM	#137483
themp3000 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2010 4K collection:379 Blu-ray collection:1794 DVD collection:107 Trading Score:103	A very solid month of announcements. I'm in for The Graduate and The Kid. I'll more than likely pick up I Knew Her Well. Not particularly interested in the other two. Naturally, this could all change if a chance for a better release is announced before the Criterion comes along. Don't like "wasting" money or double dipping unnecessarily.

11-16-2015, 10:46 PM	#137485
filmmusic Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 Trading Score:5	Is the original in one of the other BLuray releases around the world? (by the way, the Bluray.com specs should be corrected in the duration)

11-16-2015, 11:04 PM	#137486
Scottie Moderator Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:Rhode Island Trading Score:647	Criterion describes I Knew Her Well as a female version of La Dolce Vita. Sold.

11-16-2015, 11:14 PM	#137488
CPinheiro Member Member since:Oct 2014 Location:Sao Paulo Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	Putting Stefania Sandrelli's face for the cover like that is what I call aggressive marketing. Great month!

11-16-2015, 11:27 PM	#137489
ShellOilJunior Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:USA Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:10	I'm in for Chaplin and Troell. The Emigrants/The New Land features Max Von Sydow and Liv Ullmann. Sold.

11-17-2015, 12:11 AM	#137496
Ray Jackson Blu-ray Duke Member since:Apr 2013 Location:The dark underbelly of Anytown, USA 4K collection:102 Blu-ray collection:455 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:74 Trading Score:183	I think this adequately sums up my reaction to today's announcements:

11-17-2015, 02:09 AM	#137500
jw007 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Between PA, NJ, FL, and the Middle East Blu-ray collection:628 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:5	Wow, what a strong February slate of releases. This is one of the best months in a long time for big titles and big directors. The Graduate is an American masterpiece and one of the most influential films of all time. This will be a must-buy addition to my film library. The Kid is only going to make my Criterion Chaplin collection look even more impressive. I'll buy this one too, happily. Death by Hanging interests me too, as I own Oshima's other 2 Criterion blu-rays. A possible blind-buy it may be. The Emigrants/The New Land is a pleasant curiosity. I need to watch these films first. I Knew Her Well. I don't know much about this title and will research more.

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