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[Scottie]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

The word is "camp" not "campy" and you clearly have no idea what it means if you think that the "traditional sense" is that the action takes place in one central location. 12 Angry Men is as far from camp as one can get.

I get what you're saying.

Part of what attached me to the film in my initial viewing is how the viewer becomes a juror and goes back to the scene of the crime in order to figure out whether the suspect did or did not commit the crime.

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by deepbreathsanddeath

Can someone tell me where the name "wacky C" came from? It's a common phrase now but what are the origins of it?

For the longest time Criterion branded their DVD releases with this:


About 12 years ago they refreshed their logo and came up with this:



The "Wacky C" seemed to accompany a lot of DVD re-issues. I believe when the revamped logo was issued that's the name Criterion called it.

[Aladinsane]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

The word is "camp" not "campy" and you clearly have no idea what it means if you think that the "traditional sense" is that the action takes place in one central location. 12 Angry Men is as far from camp as one can get.

I always associated the word "camp" with a man in drag squealing like a shoolgirl..

Speaking of camp, how does the American remake of "la cage aux folles" (the birdcage) compare to the original? I was surprised to see the remake being praised while the original was sort of dismissed for playing up stereotypes and having caricatures of homosexuals.

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by Aladinsane

I always associated the word "camp" with a man in drag squealing like a shoolgirl..

Speaking of camp, how does the American remake of "la cage aux folles" (the birdcage) compare to the original? I was surprised to see the remake being praised while the original was sort of dismissed for playing up stereotypes and having caricatures of homosexuals.

Its ok but no where near as good as the original - I found the remakes cast to be annoying... defo stick with original lol

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by Aladinsane

I always associated the word "camp" with a man in drag squealing like a shoolgirl..

Yeah, pretty much. The term originates from Polari, the secret language used by gay theatrical types in Britain during the years when homosexuality was illegal. It basically means exaggerated and over-the-top, with a little tinge of homoeroticism thrown in the mix.

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

Yeah, pretty much. The term originates from Polari, the secret language used by gay theatrical types in Britain during the years when homosexuality was illegal. It basically means exaggerated and over-the-top, with a little tinge of homoeroticism thrown in the mix.

Polari............... are you trying to imply something.....

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by Polaroid

Polari............... are you trying to imply something.....

No, it's all bona, luv.

You're from England, you must be familiar with Polari. Kenneth Williams used to speak it all the time. Have you ever heard the Julian and Sandy skits?

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

No, it's all bona, luv.

You're from England, you must be familiar with Polari. Kenneth Williams used to speak it all the time. Have you ever heard the Julian and Sandy skits?

Hah I was messing :P

But nope, first I heard of Polari, and I am gay lol. Cant stand Kenneth Williams

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by Polaroid

Hah I was messing :P

But nope, first I heard of Polari, and I am gay lol. Cant stand Kenneth Williams

I'm not surprised, he's a bit of an acquired taste...

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

What are your early predictions for the hints in Criterion's New Year's drawing? I'm guessing that there are going to be a ton of Warner titles. My predictions for hints and their 2017 releases:

-After Hours
-Blow-Up
-Barry Lyndon
-Barton Fink
-Scarecrow
-The Virgin Spring
-Stalker
-One or more of the recently OOP MGM Hitchcock blu rays

Barton Fink is coming in 2017!


From Kino

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Aladinsane

I always associated the word "camp" with a man in drag squealing like a shoolgirl.

Note to self: strike 'camping trip to Canada' from bucket list.

Then again...what's a bucket list for if not to broaden ones horizons...

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by octagon

Note to self: strike 'camping trip to Canada' from bucket list.

Then again...what's a bucket list for if not to broaden ones horizons...

Maybe just Toronto, they're weird.

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by octagon

Note to self: strike 'camping trip to Canada' from bucket list.

Then again...what's a bucket list for if not to broaden ones horizons...

I say go for it, even if you have to drag yourself.

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

I say go for it, even if you have to drag yourself.

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

I say go for it, even if you have to drag yourself.

I definitely need more coffee. It took me a good 10 seconds before I got that one.

[Polaroid]

On the subject of drag... would love to see 'Priscilla Queen of the Desert' and 'To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything! Julie Newmar' added to the collection... great films, need more attention :P

[malakaheso]

2017 prediction: The Koker Trilogy

Blow Up seems like a certainty too. If not next year then in 2018. Zabriskie Point is also a distinct possibility given Criterion's affinity for Antonioni.

It is a shame that The Passenger will probably end up being released by Twilight Time though.

I'd like to see more Tarkovsky, but only if the transfers are better than the ones we have seen so far, which have been adequate but rather unimpressive on the whole.

I'd also love to see Sokurov on Criterion, particularly his earlier, less well known masterworks like Days of Eclipse, but I'm not holding my breath.

[mrjohnnyb]

Just announced: A 2K restoration of Josef von Sternberg's Anatahan will be making its way to theaters and blu-ray (announced at a later date.)

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=20130&page=

Trivia: This was Doors singer Jim Morrison's favorite film!

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by mrjohnnyb

Just announced: A 2K restoration of Josef von Sternberg's Anatahan will be making its way to theaters and blu-ray (announced at a later date.)

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=20130&page=

Trivia: This was Doors singer Jim Morrison's favorite film!

It saddens me that I didn't know that.

Looks like an interesting film. I'll definitely be looking into it.

[mrjohnnyb]

Originally Posted by AaronJ

It saddens me that I didn't know that.

Looks like an interesting film. I'll definitely be looking into it.

Morrison was a film student at UCLA where Josef von Sternberg was instructing. This was after he had retired from filmmaking. Morrison was one of his students and he idolized von Sternberg. It's also where Morrison knew fellow student Francis Ford Coppola. You see, there was another reason Coppola used The End to begin Apocalypse Now!