The Criterion Collection

[Edward J Grug III]

Originally Posted by Smegma

Well, number one, I wasn't asking you. Unless you are also BTSMGL? It was a direct question to an individual user.

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[The Great Owl]

I was running a 100-mile ultramarathon this weekend, so I'm only just now seeing the 2017 drawing clues.

They Live By Night is the possibility that really gets my pulse racing, but I'm also pumped for Sixteen Candles and Ghost World if those happen.

[20th Century Boy]

This is one of the longest threads I've ever seen, so apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a reason CC isn't upgrading past titles, particularly the Godard first wave films? or 'Faust'?

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by 20th Century Boy

This is one of the longest threads I've ever seen, so apologies if this has been discussed before, but is there a reason CC isn't upgrading past titles, particularly the Godard first wave films? or 'Faust'?

Like with addition of new titles, upgradation of any titles depends on:
1. Whether they own the rights for blu-ray release
2. Availability of good quality sources from the license holders
3. Extent of work required in terms of producing good quality HD masters
4. Cost of the project vs expected returns in terms

These factors limit the number of projects Criterion or any other quality studio can take on at a time, and they have to prioritize accordingly.

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I was running a 100-mile ultramarathon this weekend

Please excuse me while I hold my head between my knees to keep from passing out

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by ravenus

Please excuse me while I hold my head between my knees to keep from passing out

The silver lining in all of this, besides finishing the 100-mile race, is that the extènded recovery period this month will give me time to watch more Blu-rays. I'm planing to plow through the Miami Vice box set, and probably watch The Asphalt Jungle even more (I've already watched the disc three times since I bought it.).

[lordmorpheus72]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

About the voting:

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23 ballots were submitted. Categories where voters submitted a top 5 or top 3 used weighted scoring (1st place vote = 5 points, 2nd place vote = 4 points, etc). Categories like Worst Cover art used the sheer amount of votes.

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Best Presentation (Cover art, booklet/leaflet, disk art, etc)

1st Place (37 Points)

2nd Place (29 Points)

3rd Place (28 Points)


Other receiving votes: Dekalog (23), Trilogía de Guillermo del Toro (15), In a Lonely Place (12), The Graduate (12), Blood Simple (11), Gilda (10, Akira Kurosawa's Dreams (9), Beyond the Valley of Dolls (9), Cat People (6), A Brighter Summer Day (5), Inside Llewyn Davis (5), The Manchurian Candidate (5), The Player (4), Valley of the Dolls (4), Only Angels Have Wings (3), Roma (3), The Naked Island (3).

Worst Cover

Films Receiving Votes
Punch-Drunk Love (4)
The Manchurian Candidate (2)
The In-Laws (2)
Films receiving 1 vote
Inside Llewyn Davis
Valley of the Dolls
Barcelona
Bitter Rice
Boyhood
Carnival of Souls
Clouds of Sils Maria
Death by Hanging
La chienne
One-eyed Jacks
Short Cuts
McCabe and Mrs. Miller

Best Upgrade

Winner (10 Votes)


Others receiving votes
Bicycle Thieves (7)
Short Cuts (3)
Night Train to Munich (1)

Best New Spine

1st Place (26 Points)

2nd Place (23 Points)

3rd Place (19 Points)


Others receiving votes: The Graduate (18), Gilda (17), A Brighter Summer Day (17), The Asphalt Jungle (17), Only Angels Have Wings (16), Lone Wolf and Cub (14), Beyond the Valley of the Dolls (13), One-eyed Jacks (12), The New World (11), Pan's Labyrinth (11), Blood Simple (9), A Touch of Zen (9), Wim Wenders: The Road Trilogy (9), The Manchurian Candidate (8), Inside Llewyn Davis (8), Valley of the Dolls (7), Dr. Strangelove (7), Akira Kurosawa's Dreams (7), Cat People (6), Here Comes Mr. Jordan (5), I Knew Her Well (5), Phoenix (5), The Kid (5), The Squid and the Whale (4), Punch-Drunk Love (2), Clouds of Sils Maria (2), A Taste of Honey (2), The Complete Lady Snowblood (2), The In-Laws (1), Fantastic Planet (1), Muriel (1), Paris Belongs to Us (1).

Best Boxed Set

Winner (11 Votes)


Others receiving votes: Lone Wolf and Cub (6), Wim Wenders: The Road Trilogy (2), Trilogía de Guillermo del Toro (2), The Complete Lady Snowblood (1).

What were they thinking?

"Winner" (5 Votes)


Others receiving votes: Valley of the Dolls (3), Boyhood (2), Ingrid Bergman: In Her Own Words (2), Trilogía de Guillermo del Toro (1), The Complete Lady Snowblood (1), Pan's Labyrinth (1), Here Comes Mr. Jordan (1), Punch-Drunk Love (1), The In-Laws (1), Fantastic Planet (1), The Player (1), The Immortal Story (1).

Best Release of the Year

1st Place (45 Points)

2nd Place (22 Points)

3rd Place (21 Points)


Others receiving votes: The New World (18), Blood Simple (18), The Graduate (14), Beyond the Valley of the Dolls (13), The Asphalt Jungle (12), Gilda (11), A Brighter Summer Day (11), Only Angels Have Wings (10), Akira Kurosawa's Dreams (10), Pan's Labyrinth (9), The Road Trilogy (9), The Manchurian Candidate (9), The Player (7), McCabe and Mrs. Miller (7), Inside Llewyn Davis (7), Bicycle Thieves (7), A Touch of Zen (6), The Squid and the Whale (6), Valley of the Dolls (5), I Knew Her Well (5), The Kid (5), Here Comes Mr. Jordan (4), Dr. Strangelove (4), Cat People (4), Punch-Drunk Love (2), One-Eyed Jacks (2), Short Cuts (2), The Complete Lady Snowblood (1), Clouds of Sils, Maria (1), Roma (1), Night and Fog (1).

Most Wanted Blu-rays - Votes in parenthesis

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Le Samourai (4)
A Matter of Life and Death (4)
The Diving Bell and Butterfly (2)
Red Beard (2)
Talk to Her (2)
The Fountain (1)
Hedwig and the Angry Inch (1)
The Tree of Life (1)
The Beastie Boys Video Anthology (1)
Goin' Down the Road (1)
Los Olvidados (1)
Klute (1)
Ingmar Bergman's Faith Trilogy (1)
Peeping Tom (1)
Everything is Illuminated (1)
Welcome to the Dollhouse (1)
The Man Who Fell to Earth (1)
Ivan the Terrible (1)
The Handmaid's Tale (1)
Le Boucher (1)
Ran (1)
Hana-bi (1)
Two Women (1)
Viridiana (1)
Dogville (1)
Blue Velvet (1)
The Tenant (1)
Youth of the Beast (1)
The Koker Trilogy (1)
The Glass Key (1)
Bringing out the Dead (1)
Armageddon (1)
Stalker (1)
Bandits vs Samurai Squadron (1)
Brute Force (1)
The Lady Eve (1)
A Man and a Woman (1)
Bob le flambeur (1)
Roman Holiday (1)
An Average Little Man (1)
Mishima (1)
Straw Dogs (1)
The Barbarian Invasians (1)
The Ladies Man (1)
More Kurosawa Films (1)
Samurai Rebellion (1)
Chungking Express (1)
The Philadelphia Story (1)
Pink Floyd: The Wall (1)
Vampyr (1)
Pickup on South Street (1)
The Silent Partner (1)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1)
The Return (1)
Seven Days in May (1)
The Thing From Another World (1)
More J.P. Melville Films (1)
More Cohen Films (1)
More Fassbinder Films (1)
Death in Venice (1)
Crash (Cronenberg) (1)

Favorite Criterion Blu-ray

1st Place (29 Points)

2nd Place (15 Points)

3rd Place (14 Points)


Others receiving votes:

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Dekalog (11)
Mulholland Drive (10)
America Lost and Found: The BBS Story (8)
Eraserhead (8)
Repo Man (7)
The Night of the Hunter (7)
The Thin Red Line (6)
On the Waterfront (5)
Hausu (5)
The Big City (5)
Late Spring (5)
Anti-Christ (5)
Rosemary's Baby (5)
Belle de jour (5)
Harikiri (5)
The 39 Steps (5)
Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (5)
Koyaanisqatsi (5)
In a Lonely Place (5)
All That Heaven Allows (5)
In the Mood for Love (4)
Weekend (4)
The Wages of Fear (4)
Royal Tenenbaums (4)
Foreign Correspondent (4)
Inside Llewyn Davis (4)
Rushmore (4)
Blood Simple (4)
The Great Dictator (4)
Here Comes Mr. Jordan (4)
The Apu Trilogy (4)
Fanny and Alexander (4)
Dressed to Kill (3)
John Cassavetes: Five Films (3)
Dressed to Kill (3)
8 1/2 (3)
Salo (3)
A Hard Day's Night (3)
Revanche (3)
The Complete Jean Vigo (3)
Valley of the Dolls (3)
The Vanishing (3)
City Lights (3)
Brazil (3)
Godzilla (3)
Blow Out (3)
Army of Shadows (3)
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (3)
Breathless (3)
Zatoichi: The Blind Swordsman (3)
The Red Shoes (3)
The Third Man (3)
Tokyo Story (2)
Jules and Jim (2)
The New World (2)
Diabolique (2)
The Manchurian Candidate (2)
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (2)
12 Angry Men (2)
The Essential Jacques Demy (2)
Le Cercle Rouge (2)
Heaven's Gate (2)
Black Narcissus (2)
L'avventura (2)
Harakiri (1)
Y tu mama tambien (1)
Grey Gardens (1)
Certified Copy (1)
Moonrise Kingdom (1)
Videodrome (1)
Watership Down (1)
M (1)
Fantastic Mr. Fox (1)
La Dolce Vita (1)
Martin Scorsese's World Cinema Project, Vol. 1 (1)

Winner of the $25 Criterion.com gift code: lordmorpheus72 (Please check your PMs for the code).

Thank you to those who voted and/or read this post. Have a great 2017!

Awesome! And thanks for the poll and posting all the results! Happy New Year!

[Scottie]

Originally Posted by weir

I see someone has already started a card for Sixteen Candles.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Sixte...lu-ray/171335/

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by ravenus

Like with addition of new titles, upgradation of any titles depends on:
1. Whether they own the rights for blu-ray release
2. Availability of good quality sources from the license holders
3. Extent of work required in terms of producing good quality HD masters
4. Cost of the project vs expected returns in terms

These factors limit the number of projects Criterion or any other quality studio can take on at a time, and they have to prioritize accordingly.

Right. I assumed so. It strikes me as strange though, I'd assume they'd've been knocking Godard out of the park, at least in terms of upgrades. But I guess maybe, like with Pete the Fool they don't have the rights anymore. Is there a way to find out? Like a database or something? I usually see a lot of people discussing who does and doesn't have rights, not quite knowing where that info comes from.

EDIT: Are the NYE drawings for the whole year or just the first quarter?

[jw007]

Originally Posted by Gull Cottage

I'm hoping the box with the question mark is Tom DiCillo's brilliant and underrated Box Of Moonlight!

I love Box of Moonlight! Sam Rockwell is pretty funny in that and John Turturro delivered a superb performance too. I feel like that film is a bit of a cult classic even though its not really known too well. It's such a great little 90's gem of a film. I caved in and purchased the DVD a few years ago because I wanted to see it so badly again. This would be a great addition to the Criterion Collection without a doubt.

[jw007]

So in continuing my epic watch of the Dekalog box set, I had wrongly assumed that the 3rd and 4th discs were supplements, but soon discovered that Disc 3 contained 2 additional films (longer versions of 2 of the episodes on the 5th and 6th commandments (murder and adultery)).

So last night I watched A Short Film about Love and wow, that alternate ending was so much better!!! So much more surreal and "what if" kept popping into my head. It was such a SAD, SAD, SAD film! So pitiful and pathetic...yet so true on the timing of love. And how the "sanctity of love" can be ruined by a person's perspective. What I realized, without giving away anything about this film is, one of the characters loved the other person before they knew it, while the other character loved the other person after it was too late. It was all about TIMING!

This comes one night after I watched A Short Film about Killing, which was BRUTAL as hell. Def. not a fun film to watch on the first day of the new year. It was so tragic and yet justified at the same time how the man who commited the killing ended up getting punished (I think the defense lawyer mentioned something about "punishment being a form of revenge"). Anyway, I don't ever want to watch that film again.

[UncleBuckWild]

Originally Posted by iScottie

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10 Points for GRYFFINDOR!

[shadedpain4]

Originally Posted by 20th Century Boy

EDIT: Are the NYE drawings for the whole year or just the first quarter?

Not necessarily either. Could be this year, could be next year, could be later. A drawing hint generally just mean it's in the works.

[dsman71]

Holy crap lol , I just received Red River from Criterion.. I didnt expect the package to be that huge. A great film gets a great release I guess. I wonder if they would do the same for The Furies which also was a huge package in DVD with the book.

[weir]

Originally Posted by iScottie

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Originally Posted by UncleBuckWild

10 Points for GRYFFINDOR!

I agree. That was a pretty good reply to my post.

[ThatOneGuy]

Well we know they are in the group that believes the 16 candle clue is Sixteen Candles! It better be Sixteen Candles, stupid clue if it isn't.

[weir]

Originally Posted by John Klein

Well we know they are in the group that believes the 16 candle clue is Sixteen Candles! It better be Sixteen Candles, stupid clue if it isn't.

Molly Ringwald will be 49 next month and Michael Schoeffling (Jake) turned 56 last month. Time flies.....

[Zen_Amako]

I watched I Knew Her Well yesterday. The picture quality on the Blu-ray is wonderful--I forget sometimes just how good a B&W film can look in high definition with a great transfer. I think this film will stay with me for a while. It felt very "real." You can sort of see the ending coming but it still gets to you.

The Criterion release is pretty light on extras, though. I watched an alternate opening (from the German release, I believe) on YouTube that had the sunbathing heroine lying on her back rather than her stomach when the camera reaches her. It seems like that sort of thing should been made it onto the Blu-ray.

[pedromvu]

Originally Posted by Zen_Amako

I watched I Knew Her Well yesterday. The picture quality on the Blu-ray is wonderful--I forget sometimes just how good a B&W film can look in high definition with a great transfer. I think this film will stay with me for a while. It felt very "real." You can sort of see the ending coming but it still gets to you.

The Criterion release is pretty light on extras, though. I watched an alternate opening (from the German release, I believe) on YouTube that had the sunbathing heroine lying on her back rather than her stomach when the camera reaches her. It seems like that sort of thing should been made it onto the Blu-ray.

One of the best films Criterion released last year that for some reason doesn't seem to get much attention on this thread.

[castor]

Originally Posted by Zen_Amako

I watched I Knew Her Well yesterday. The picture quality on the Blu-ray is wonderful--I forget sometimes just how good a B&W film can look in high definition with a great transfer. I think this film will stay with me for a while. It felt very "real." You can sort of see the ending coming but it still gets to you.

Originally Posted by pedromvu

One of the best films Criterion released last year that for some reason doesn't seem to get much attention on this thread.

Yes, this and Muriel, or The Time of Return.