The Criterion Collection

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I have the collections of Raymond Chandler, James M. Cain, and Dashiell Hammett on my living room shelf for easy access and frequent revisiting.

No Jim Thompson? I would assume you'd really like his stuff if you like the hard boiled guys.

[SkyAntoine]

To each their own on collecting physical media, but I have no qualms on the size of my collection or where Criterion is going with their titles in the future. 4K is an improvement of the DVD format and I expect some variation of the 5" disc to be around for many, many years. The DVD upscaled looks fine to me.

Personally, I prefer to have something I can hold in my hands and sit and admire on my shelves. And, for those of us with terrible internet who knows when streaming is a viable option.

[thatguamguy]

Originally Posted by bingtau

How long before Silence comes to Criterion collection are you guessing. Seems like a good companion to LTOC.

As far as I can see, "Boyhood" is the new movie with the shortest window between a blu-ray release and a Criterion upgrade release, and that took almost two years. Wes Anderson's films seem to take about three years. "Traffic" took slightly less time than "Boyhood", but that was one where Criterion had already done it on DVD. Two years seems like a safe minimum bet.

[BluProofie]

If I were to order 8 1/2 and Hunger from Criterion's website, will I get their replacement discs/newer print versions? I want to buy these during the next B&N sale, but I don't want to worry about getting bad discs.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by jw007

Have you ever asked yourself when you looked at your collection of films: "Does this bring value to my life?" or "Do I need this in my life?".

No, I haven't. It makes me happy. Why does it need to be more complicated than that?

[shadedpain4]

Originally Posted by thatguamguy

As far as I can see, "Boyhood" is the new movie with the shortest window between a blu-ray release and a Criterion upgrade release, and that took almost two years. Wes Anderson's films seem to take about three years. "Traffic" took slightly less time than "Boyhood", but that was one where Criterion had already done it on DVD. Two years seems like a safe minimum bet.

I don't know if it's apples to oranges since the original release was dvd only, but it was less than a year between Clouds Of Sils Maria's dvd only non Criterion US release, and the Criterion dvd/blu releases (July '15 to June '16)

[Arch Stanton]

Originally Posted by Rory

As things stand at the present time, 1080p Blu-rays and 4K ULTRA HD BDs are the only platforms that deliver true HD at home. Thanks to a lack of adequate infrastructure here in the US to deliver uninterrupted, fully HD streaming to many areas, and licensing agreements that companies such as Criterion, Twilight Time, Kino, etc., have with the major studios for library titles that will take years to roll out, I think it's safe to say that no one should be worried that disc media is going to disappear anytime soon.

I agree - tbh I've never been satisfied with the quality of films I've watched via streaming or downloads. But I don't think many people care much and convenience massively trumps concerns over quality. 2020 will be a loose endgame imo.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by SkyAntoine

To each their own on collecting physical media, but I have no qualms on the size of my collection or where Criterion is going with their titles in the future. 4K is an improvement of the DVD format and I expect some variation of the 5" disc to be around for many, many years. The DVD upscaled looks fine to me.

Personally, I prefer to have something I can hold in my hands and sit and admire on my shelves. And, for those of us with terrible internet who knows when streaming is a viable option.

Everything you said exactly!

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by jw007

You hit it on the nail when you wrote this:

I started loving the idea of owning a large collection of movies more than the movies themselves (a lot of people will deny it themselves, but I know for a fact that they do it too)

YES. I fell in love with amassing a huge collection. But is this love? It was infatuation, it was obsession, it was delusion...and most importantly: addiction.

Trying to own as many films as possible is an exercise in futility for sure.

It's exhausting and draining and by far, financially unsustainable.

Whoever thinks otherwise is in denial or delusional themselves.

It's not a question of infatuation, obsession, delusion, or addiction. I've said this before, and I'll probably be saying it again and again until I'm dead and gone: many people simply like to collect things. There's not necessarily a rhyme or reason to it, they just do it. Some people collect stamps. Some collect coins. Some collect comic books. Some collect movies. Some collect Coke bottles. Some collect postcards. My mother collected snail-design knickknacks. An old friend of mine's mother collected owl-design knickknacks. Another friend of mine collects Top 100 45 RPM singles.

There's nothing wrong with any of these people just because they have an interest that you think is bizarre. It's their life. To call them delusional addicts is condescending.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by jw007

Have you ever asked yourself when you looked at your collection of films: "Does this bring value to my life?" or "Do I need this in my life?".

You're Goddamn Right I Did! - YouTube

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I still buy printed books, because the idea of reading a novel from a tablet is still alien to me.

What he said.

[jw007]

Originally Posted by jayembee

No, I haven't. It makes me happy. Why does it need to be more complicated than that?

Originally Posted by jayembee

It's not a question of infatuation, obsession, delusion, or addiction. I've said this before, and I'll probably be saying it again and again until I'm dead and gone: many people simply like to collect things. There's not necessarily a rhyme or reason to it, they just do it. Some people collect stamps. Some collect coins. Some collect comic books. Some collect movies. Some collect Coke bottles. Some collect postcards. My mother collected snail-design knickknacks. An old friend of mine's mother collected owl-design knickknacks. Another friend of mine collects Top 100 45 RPM singles.

There's nothing wrong with any of these people just because they have an interest that you think is bizarre. It's their life. To call them delusional addicts is condescending.

No problem. I make a lot of judgements as you can see, but I direct it generally out to society, not to anyone personally (but I do use a passive aggressive tactic sometimes when I meet a "hoarder" who is miserable and not really happy). You see, the hoarder was once a "collector", but that collector amassed too many things in his life and when I went to his house (this is a friend of mine), I asked him "has anyone ever asked you if you hoard things?", and he was offended (which was completely natural to react that way). My intentions were to identify and assist in trying to help him get rid of a lot of junk he had. He wasn't a happy man. Ask any collector who hoards things if he or she is happy, and often times they will put on a great disguise and say "sure, of course I am!". But I can see right through that bullshit and realize this person is being consumed by his/her collection of stuff.

My own mother has suffered for decades from hoarding/collecting stuff. It is a serious mental health problem. This is why I usually don't react well when I see how people's collections have literally taken their lives away.

There is no doubt that when a person has too many things and it gets in the way of his or her social life, or worse, contribute to serious health problems, I don't think its a positive or good thing. Just sayin'.

[ckyjeans]

Originally Posted by SkyAntoine

To each their own on collecting physical media, but I have no qualms on the size of my collection or where Criterion is going with their titles in the future. 4K is an improvement of the DVD format and I expect some variation of the 5" disc to be around for many, many years. The DVD upscaled looks fine to me.

Personally, I prefer to have something I can hold in my hands and sit and admire on my shelves. And, for those of us with terrible internet who knows when streaming is a viable option.

main reasons for me. streaming isn't always a guarantee depending on how the internet is wherever i am. that having something tangible.

[shadedpain4]

Originally Posted by jw007

It's exhausting and draining and by far, financially unsustainable.

Whoever thinks otherwise is in denial or delusional themselves.

This seems like you're taking your own experiences and projecting them on everyone. Sure, if you buy every movie you want as soon as you get your paycheck and then try to pay your bills with the remainder, that's some poor financial decision making. But if you pay all your bills, put money into savings, put money into retirement planning, pay for any needed housing repairs, pay for your vacations, budget money needed for all daily/monthly expenses, and *then* buy movies you love with the discretionary funds remaining, that's far from unsustainable financially.

I never get the exhausted/draining comments. I get exhausted by things I don't enjoy like yardwork or housecleaning. Movie collecting brings me joy. Whether I'm watching a film, looking for deals/rare films, or organizing my collection, I always have a smile on my face because it's an interest I enjoy so much.

If it exhausts/drains someone, maybe it's not the right hobby for them?

[thatguamguy]

Originally Posted by jayembee

It's not a question of infatuation, obsession, delusion, or addiction. I've said this before, and I'll probably be saying it again and again until I'm dead and gone: many people simply like to collect things. There's not necessarily a rhyme or reason to it, they just do it. Some people collect stamps. Some collect coins. Some collect comic books. Some collect movies. Some collect Coke bottles. Some collect postcards. My mother collected snail-design knickknacks. An old friend of mine's mother collected owl-design knickknacks. Another friend of mine collects Top 100 45 RPM singles.

There's nothing wrong with any of these people just because they have an interest that you think is bizarre. It's their life. To call them delusional addicts is condescending.

Anybody who owns more movies than me is clearly a delusional addict.
Anybody who owns fewer, I guess they just don't like movies that much.

[jw007]

Originally Posted by shadedpain4

This seems like you're taking your own experiences and projecting them on everyone. Sure, if you buy every movie you want as soon as you get your paycheck and then try to pay your bills with the remainder, that's some poor financial decision making. But if you pay all your bills, put money into savings, put money into retirement planning, pay for any needed housing repairs, pay for your vacations, budget money needed for all daily/monthly expenses, and *then* buy movies you love with the discretionary funds remaining, that's far from unsustainable financially.

I never get the exhausted/draining comments. I get exhausted by things I don't enjoy like yardwork or housecleaning. Movie collecting brings me joy. Whether I'm watching a film, looking for deals/rare films, or organizing my collection, I always have a smile on my face because it's an interest I enjoy so much.

If it exhausts/drains someone, maybe it's not the right hobby for them?

You didn't quote the first part of my point.

It was regarding a person who thinks he/she should buy every single movie ever created throughout world history. Yes, that's a bit extreme, but honestly, do you think that is mentally sound? I'm talking like 100,000 blu-rays/dvds or more.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by shadedpain4

This seems like you're taking your own experiences and projecting them on everyone. Sure, if you buy every movie you want as soon as you get your paycheck and then try to pay your bills with the remainder, that's some poor financial decision making. But if you pay all your bills, put money into savings, put money into retirement planning, pay for any needed housing repairs, pay for your vacations, budget money needed for all daily/monthly expenses, and *then* buy movies you love with the discretionary funds remaining, that's far from unsustainable financially.

I never get the exhausted/draining comments. I get exhausted by things I don't enjoy like yardwork or housecleaning. Movie collecting brings me joy. Whether I'm watching a film, looking for deals/rare films, or organizing my collection, I always have a smile on my face because it's an interest I enjoy so much.

If it exhausts/drains someone, maybe it's not the right hobby for them?

Bingo! Man that was a great response. How could something you love doing be draining and exhausting?

Also, I strictly buy films because I want to watch them on a regular basis. Not to just have them to have them as some people apparently think a lot of us collectors do. I know some people that are like that but I'm not one of them along with plenty of other collectors. If you're not going to utilize your collection it makes no sense to collect IMO.

[shadedpain4]

Originally Posted by jw007

You didn't quote the first part of my point.

It was regarding a person who thinks he/she should buy every single movie ever created throughout world history. Yes, that's a bit extreme, but honestly, do you think that is mentally sound? I'm talking like 100,000 blu-rays/dvds or more.

Sorry, was it edited? I went back and looked and didn't see anything about every single movie ever created or 100,000 blu-rays.

[20th Century Boy]

I simply don't trust streaming. The quality and availability is always in flux and in someone else's hands. Heck you don't even own your own TVs these days, you're just "leasing" them.

[shadedpain4]

Originally Posted by 20th Century Boy

I simply don't trust streaming. The quality and availability is always in flux and in someone else's hands. Heck you don't even own your own TVs these days, you're just "leasing" them.

I'm fairly certain I own my television.