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javy · 05-25-2017, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

Yeah I disagree as well. Scorsese has numerous masterpieces. It also depends on your definition of what a masterpiece is.

"And you know this, man!"

postmodel · 05-25-2017, 06:02 PM

Not sure where to post this, but given all of the Criterion Lynch talk as of late I came across this:

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https://www.amazon.co.jp/David-Lynch...=AN1VRQENFRJN5

Rough translations via amazon.jp:

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Just SUPER curious about this one, since Criterion gave us Eraserhead and Mulholland Drive already. Then throw in FWWM coming soon.... I know since it's Japan the rights are very different though...

Oh, there goes my wishful thinking again haha...

ShellOilJunior · 05-25-2017, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shadedpain4

That depends on which definition of "masterpiece" you are using. I feel like this discussion has appeared many times in this thread.

Yep. "Masterpiece" originated as a guild term. Using the term differently strips it of its intended meaning (and devalues it) then it merely serves as an overused synonym for something like "great film". That's my take on it.

javy · 05-25-2017, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Yep. "Masterpiece" originated as a guild term. Using the term differently strips it of its intended meaning (and devalues it) then it merely serves as an overused synonym for something like "great film". That's my take on it.

Casino is a masterpiece. Goodfellas is a masterpiece. The Departed is a masterpiece. The Aviator is a masterpiece. Casino is my favorite of them all. So I do understand what your saying.

mja345 · 05-25-2017, 07:26 PM

"The Aviator" isn't even close to a masterpiece IMO. It's not even among Scorsese's top 10 films to be honest. Directors can certainly have multiple masterpieces, but saying "The Aviator" is one of Scorsese's masterpieces is like saying "Marnie" is one of Hitchcock's masterpieces. I also don't think "The Departed" comes remotely close to a masterpiece.

MassiveMovieBuff · 05-25-2017, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mja345

"The Aviator" isn't even close to a masterpiece IMO. It's not even among Scorsese's top 10 films to be honest. Directors can certainly have multiple masterpieces, but saying "The Aviator" is one of Scorsese's masterpieces is like saying "Marnie" is one of Hitchcock's masterpieces. I also don't think "The Departed" comes remotely close to a masterpiece.

I consider The Aviator one of Scorsese's most overlooked masterpieces. It's one of my top 5 Scorsese films and DiCaprio's best performance IMHO.

I agree with you on The Departed though. Great film though.

mja345 · 05-25-2017, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

I consider The Aviator one of Scorsese's most overlooked masterpieces. It's one of my top 5 Scorsese films and DiCaprio's best performance IMHO.

I agree with you on The Departed though. Great film though.

When I think of a masterpiece, I think of a film that defines a filmmaker, a style, a genre. A film that is completely unavoidable when talking about a particular filmmaker or genre. Just my opinion. Films like "Dr. Strangelove", "2001", "The Godfather 1 & 2", "Taxi Driver", "Nashville", "8 1/2", "The 400 Blows", "Raging Bull", "Chinatown", "The Exorcist", "Psycho", "Vertigo", "The Third Man", "Mulholland Dr.", "The Big Sleep", "Network", "The Graduate", "Breathless", "Casablanca", etc. There are a lot of great films that I don't consider masterpieces. Just my two cents.

stephen buccleugh · 05-25-2017, 07:52 PM

Come on...it's 2001 A Space Odyssey! Is there ANY talk of a 50th anniversary 4K coming out?

What studio would it come from...WB? Or Criterion, who've yet to adopt 4K
releases though they have used 4K DI to master many of their 2K releases.

javy · 05-25-2017, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mja345

"The Aviator" isn't even close to a masterpiece IMO. It's not even among Scorsese's top 10 films to be honest. Directors can certainly have multiple masterpieces, but saying "The Aviator" is one of Scorsese's masterpieces is like saying "Marnie" is one of Hitchcock's masterpieces. I also don't think "The Departed" comes remotely close to a masterpiece.

I absolutely love The Departed and The Aviator. Two towering feats of cinema among my most favorite of films. To me they are masterpieces. We're all different.

javy · 05-25-2017, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

I consider The Aviator one of Scorsese's most overlooked masterpieces. It's one of my top 5 Scorsese films and DiCaprio's best performance IMHO.

One of my many favorite scenes.

MassiveMovieBuff · 05-25-2017, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by javy

I absolutely love The Departed and The Aviator. Two towering feats of cinema among my most favorite of films. To me they are masterpieces. We're all different.

The Departed is solid but my hatred for Matt Damon's character really affects the film for me even if that was the point of his character. I'm also not a Matt Damon fan so that made it worse.

javy · 05-25-2017, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

The Departed is solid but my hatred for Matt Damon's character really affects the film for me even if that was the point of his character. I'm also not a Matt Damon fan so that made it worse.

Did you check out Polanski's Repulsion?

MassiveMovieBuff · 05-25-2017, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by javy

Did you check out Polanski's Repulsion?

Not yet. I have it on my rent list from Netflix. I can't buy it right now because I have titles next month coming out that I need to buy and I bought the fantastic "Get Out" last night. Highly recommend you see that if you haven't yet. I was blown away.

javy · 05-25-2017, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

Not yet. I have it on my rent list from Netflix. I can't buy it right now because I have titles next month coming out that I need to buy and I bought the fantastic "Get Out" last night. Highly recommend you see that if you haven't yet. I was blown away.

I lnow how it is. I wanted to pick up Ghost World but other titles came first. I wanna see that Get Out.

This from the synopsis is dead on about Repulsion:
"A surreal, mind- bending odyssey into personal horror, and it remains one of cinema's most
shocking psychological thrillers."

joy-division · 05-25-2017, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

The Departed is solid but my hatred for Matt Damon's character really affects the film for me even if that was the point of his character. I'm also not a Matt Damon fan so that made it worse.

I avoid films with Matt Damon, Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, Tom Cruise & Adam Sandler withe a few exceptions like early Cruise & Collateral, True Grit, The Departed & Team America - World Police. Otherwise, no way would I pay to see them at the cinema. Am interested in the Martian though cos that's Ridley

joy-division · 05-25-2017, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by javy

I absolutely love The Departed and The Aviator. Two towering feats of cinema among my most favorite of films. To me they are masterpieces. We're all different.

What about The Infernal Affairs Trilogy then?

javy · 05-25-2017, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by joy-division

I avoid films with Matt Damon, Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, Tom Cruise & Adam Sandler withe a few exceptions like early Cruise & Collateral, True Grit, The Departed & Team America - World Police. Otherwise, no way would I pay to see them at the cinema. Am interested in the Martian though cos that's Ridley

Cruise is a stud in Eyes Wide Shut and Magnolia.

MassiveMovieBuff · 05-25-2017, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by javy

I lnow how it is. I wanted to pick up Ghost World but other titles came first. I wanna see that Get Out.

This from the synopsis is dead on about Repulsion:
"A surreal, mind- bending odyssey into personal horror, and it remains one of cinema's most
shocking psychological thrillers."

I'm sure I'll love Repulsion.

javy · 05-25-2017, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by joy-division

What about The Infernal Affairs Trilogy then?

I haven't seen those.

octagon · 05-25-2017, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Yep. "Masterpiece" originated as a guild term. Using the term differently strips it of its intended meaning (and devalues it) then it merely serves as an overused synonym for something like "great film". That's my take on it.

But if you're going to be that much of a purist doesn't any use of masterpiece with respect to film 'strip it of its intended meaning'?

05-25-2017, 07:52 PM	#164148
stephen buccleugh Junior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Blu-ray reviews:1	2001 A Space Odyssey Come on...it's 2001 A Space Odyssey! Is there ANY talk of a 50th anniversary 4K coming out? What studio would it come from...WB? Or Criterion, who've yet to adopt 4K releases though they have used 4K DI to master many of their 2K releases.

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mja345 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2015 4K collection:1166 Blu-ray collection:12350 DVD collection:266	"The Aviator" isn't even close to a masterpiece IMO. It's not even among Scorsese's top 10 films to be honest. Directors can certainly have multiple masterpieces, but saying "The Aviator" is one of Scorsese's masterpieces is like saying "Marnie" is one of Hitchcock's masterpieces. I also don't think "The Departed" comes remotely close to a masterpiece.

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