The Criterion Collection

[Brad1963]

Originally Posted by taymo016

Bull Durham is probably a case of "You want this movie? You need to take Bull Durham too otherwise you can't have the one you really want."

Whatever the situation may be, Bull Durham is in the collection and no amount of complaining is going to change that.

Bull Durham was a well received film that has aged well and remains beloved by many. There is room for it in the Criterion collection.

[Bronson13]

Originally Posted by Brad1963

Bull Durham was a well received film that has aged well and remains beloved by many. There is room for it in the Criterion collection and should not be torn apart because it is not your cup of tea.

This Bull Durham hate confuses me.... people are acting like they just put Angels in the Outfield into the collection.

[Brad1963]

Originally Posted by Bronson13

This Bull Durham hate confuses me.... people are acting like they just put Angels in the Outfield into the collection.

I don't get it either. The film has been considered a contemporary classic and holds a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. Film snobs I guess.

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by Thomas Irwin

I'm surprised they left The Last Seduction off of that list. One of my favorites of the '90s.

Originally Posted by sawdustandtinsel

Speaking of films that desperately need a Blu-ray release...

Originally Posted by dressedtokill

Scorpion Releasing is working on a new restoration and plan on releasing it. No date has been given though...

That's great news. I own the UK release and its perhaps the sh*ttiest blu-ray in my entire collection. I would love to be rid of that thing.

[Bronson13]

Originally Posted by Brad1963

I don't get it either. The film has been considered a contemporary classic and holds a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. Film snobs I guess.

If any sports film deserves a Criterion release it should be something like Bull Durham. I’d like to see Moneyball join the collection at some point. The only sports movies worth a damn to me are Baseball ones. They just work for some reason. There are occasional gems from other sports like Friday Night Lights but for the most part it’s just Baseball to me.

[MifuneFan]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoosiers join one day, with it being from MGM and all.

[Brad1963]

Originally Posted by Bronson13

If any sports film deserves a Criterion release it should be something like Bull Durham. I’d like to see Moneyball join the collection at some point. The only sports movies worth a damn to me are Baseball ones. They just work for some reason. There are occasional gems from other sports like Friday Night Lights but for the most part it’s just Baseball to me.

I agree with Moneyball and quite frankly I think Field of Dreams belongs in the Criterion Collection.

[gregmtl92]

Another sports movie I could see entering the collection would be The Wrestler.

[thatguamguy]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

Studios have been known to do that. The Kino Lorber insider has mentioned that when they cut a deal with Disney the package of titles they received included some "less desirable" titles that they were forced to take in order to get some of the classics they wanted. That being said, I don't think that's how Criterion works and I especially don't think that's the case with Bull Durham which is a worthy addition as it's a pretty good film.

I think sometimes Criterion gets a list of 25 and has to pick 10, that sort of thing, but I don't think they ever get really forced to release titles they consider "less desirable".

[Brad1963]

Originally Posted by gregmtl92

Another sports movie I could see entering the collection would be The Wrestler.

I think Raging Bull has a great chance of being included in the Criterion Collection. It was back in the Laserdisc days.

[Bronson13]

Originally Posted by Brad1963

I agree with Moneyball and quite frankly I think Field of Dreams belongs in the Criterion Collection.

I think Field of Freams is absolutely coming to Criterion.

And I forgot Boxing movies are pretty great too. So it’s Baseball and Boxing that work best in cinema.

[Cherokee Jack]

Originally Posted by Brad1963

I agree with Moneyball and quite frankly I think Field of Dreams belongs in the Criterion Collection.

Just bought that last night so if it follows the same pattern as Bull Durham did for me, you'll be seeing a Field of Dreams CC announcement in about six months or so.

[Brad1963]

Originally Posted by Cherokee Jack

Just bought that last night so if it follows the same pattern as Bull Durham did for me, you'll be seeing a Field of Dreams CC announcement in about six months or so.

Next year is Field of Dreams 30th Anniversary. Hopefully a new 4k restoration is in the works.

[Scottie]

Going to blind buy A Matter of Life and Death.

I'll probably re-purchase Black Narcissus and The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp around the same time, too.

[I KEEL YOU]

Originally Posted by Bronson13

I think Field of Freams is absolutely coming to Criterion.

And I forgot Boxing movies are pretty great too. So it’s Baseball and Boxing that work best in cinema.

I wish Criterion would release When We Were Kings on blu ray.

[Vinyl]

I decided to watch the criterion’s I have put off watching.

First off was Kagemusha. I really don’t know what to say about it. It kind of left me speechless. It was so well done. The camera framing was spot on. The story was well thought out and I keep going over certain scenes in my head. The dream sequence is amazing. It literally made me think of the characters walking inside a painting Kurosawa made. Also, the ending

[Show spoiler]where I felt that he was trying to convey that the kingdom was doomed after one of the four elements died

was a great allegory. Will definitely watch over again.

[BagheeraMcGee]

Originally Posted by malakaheso

I was going to reply to his response, which I thought was perfectly fine btw, by saying two things:

1)Sports movies generally don't count among the greatest films ever made. How many sports films are highly rated? Not many.

2)Those actors, while good, haven't really been in truly important American films. Their best films are rather middling oscar films that are quickly forgotten years after their release. A case can be made for Thelma and Louise, and The Shawshank Redemption is popular, but I think you would struggle to argue that they were in great films when looked at from a historical perspective. i.e taking the whole of cinema into account.

Bull Durham is not Rocky, and I like Costner.

Now that MGM is pretty much licensing everything they have, I can't wait for your reaction when Criterion announces Dances With Wolves (complete with both cuts).

Also, Bob Roberts would certainly be a worthy addition to the Criterion label. I just recently watched it, and it's scarily prescient to how things are today.

[DaBargainHunta]

Originally Posted by whedon

He turned down some big roles, Spiderman, Nolan's Batman films and then Superman in Returns. He didn't want to be pigeonholed and he has said before that he wishes that he hadn't been afraid to say yes to films like those as I know there was talk of him being in the Prestige that supposedly Nolan refused to consider him seriously because he turned down Batman Begins. Still think that he is a fine actor, one of those dependable everyman actors who can steal any scene, I Come With the Rain was great and showed just what he can do.

I could see him in Superman Returns, but that film would have torpedoed his career like it did Brandon Routh's, so nothing much would have changed there.

I could kinda see him as Batman/Bruce Wayne, but I don't know. I thought Christian Bale was wildly overrated in that role, so I'm not opposed to a change.

Spider-Man seems all wrong for him.

Now I'm wondering how he would have fared in The Prestige. That doesn't really seem like a great fit either. But I can oddly see him in the role of a magician. Bale actually did a nice job there though.

Originally Posted by koberulz

This might be a bad thread in which to say this but Lucky Number Slevin is one of my favourite films.

It's a ton of fun!

Originally Posted by gregmtl92

Another sports movie I could see entering the collection would be The Wrestler.

Absolutely. I'd be all for this. Unfortunately, we'd have to get the director's more pretentious arthouse fare first - like The Fountain* - before some of Criterion's insufferable snob fans would "settle" for an actual masterpiece like The Wrestler.

*I liked The Fountain, but anyone who doesn't realize it was a complete and utter mess is deluding themselves.

[bluesparrow]

You guys are right about baseball movies. There's something kind of mythic and ethereal about baseball that lends itself well to movies. Field of Dreams, Moneyball, The Natural, Bull Durham, Eight Men Out.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by Bronson13

This Bull Durham hate confuses me.... people are acting like they just put Angels in the Outfield into the collection.

Yeah I'm really baffled by it too. As far as I knew I always thought it was a beloved film by many.