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Page14 · 02-08-2019, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RCRochester

Orson Welles did quite a few of those Dean Martin Celebrity Roasts, maybe that's what you were thinking off?

Possibly ... or some other TV guest appearances. Or maybe even his wine commercials.

Doctorossi · 02-08-2019, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by edmoney

Sure, given the choice of a Criterion Blu-ray release or a WB UHD release, I would take the UHD.

I would, too, but I'd most prefer a Criterion UHD.

Reddington · 02-08-2019, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by regeyer

He's still my family's favorite Scrooge. RIP.

Brilliant film. Essential Christmas viewing.

Bates_Motel · 02-08-2019, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I would, too, but I'd most prefer a Criterion UHD.

A don't assume a UHD wouldn't yield much better picture than what we have now, since the transfer wasn't from the negatives (which were destroyed). So I'm fine with the WB disc, no need for a Criterion to just port over the same restoration with a couple of new extras (and considering everyone is long dead and gone, I wouldn't expect anything much different than what's already known and been seen already).

regeyer · 02-08-2019, 05:57 PM

In relation to UHD and the fact the Criterion has not opted to produce them so far, I can't help but wonder what the price structure would be if and when they do.

Criterion previously tried changing their packaging so that all releases came with a DVD and Blu-Ray, thus satisfying both types of customers. Unfortunately, DVD only customers, which is a surprisingly large percentage, were upset because they had to pay an increased price for a format they can't use. So Criterion ended the dual format releases.

Currently, DVDs retail for $29.96, while Blu-Rays retail for $39.96. With the 50% off sales the difference is $14.98 vs $19.98. But what are the prices going to be if they release a UHD version. Assuming they keep DVDs and Blu-Rays at the current pricing, are the UHDs going to $49.96, or $24.98 during the 50% off sales? If so, are people going to pay the higher price?

I know many of you will pay the higher price without batting an eyelash. But when there is a large percentage of people who still buy the DVDs, and a large group of people who don't have a UHD player or 4K HDTV, and the price for the UHD will be higher, one has to wonder how successful such a launch would be.

I'm sure these are the sort of questions Criterion considers, along with the ramifications of streaming. In relation to streaming, they are going forward full steam. Perhaps they see a better future with streaming than they do UHD?

Just some thoughts I had on this Friday afternoon as we get ready for another snow storm in Central New York.

Egbert Souse · 02-08-2019, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Let's have each copy hand delivered by Welles' daughter while we're at it.

I don't think I was listing anything unreasonable. Basically following what Criterion has done with other Welles releases and similar instances of films with decent editions. But I don't think many know how slight Warner's edition is outside the commentaries. It was amazing for 2001, but it pales to even Warner's special editions of Ben-Hur, Gone with the Wind, or even The Adventures of Robin Hood.

Even with the negative gone, 4K could look great. I saw a 35mm print and was honestly surprised by how sharp and nice it looked. And that was before they found the nitrate fine-grain positive used for the 2011 restoration.

Lordy · 02-08-2019, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gacivory

Albert Finney in Big Fish is my favorite of his roles! He’s done so many great ones, but that one holds a special place in my heart!

I don't think he was ever better than he was in Erin Brockovich.

balthazar_bee · 02-08-2019, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RCRochester

The last thing I watched him in was Under the Volcano, which is a Criterion title that is long overdue for a blu-ray upgrade.

Oh my yes. The film doesn't completely work, in my opinion, but Finney is godlike.

Plus, I'd love to see an HD presentation of the included NFB doc about Lowry narrated by Burton. Arguably more gripping than the feature.

jshaide · 02-08-2019, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordy

I don't think he was ever better than he was in Erin Brockovich.

He's really rad in this. Probably my favorite thing about the movie.

mrjohnnyb · 02-08-2019, 08:18 PM

My favorite Finney role:

Cremildo · 02-08-2019, 08:21 PM

I absolutely adored him in Erin Brockovich and Murder on the Orient Express. Those are my favorite performances of his (I still need to see some important movies he starred in, though).

moviebuff75 · 02-08-2019, 09:02 PM

Citizen Kane could absolutely be improved. The current release is cropped a little tightly.

mja345 · 02-08-2019, 09:10 PM

Finney was an awesome actor. Check him out in "Saturday Night and Sunday Morning" if you haven't seen it. One of the definitive "angry young man" performances.

Hoke Moseley · 02-08-2019, 09:36 PM

Shoot the Moon would make a great Criterion release. Finney and Diane Keaton are both pretty sensational in it.

Warner DVD is currently OOP...

octagon · 02-08-2019, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by moviebuff75

Citizen Kane could absolutely be improved. The current release is cropped a little tightly.

I would honestly rather they make good on their April Fool's Kindergarten Cop cover than spend any time or money licensing Citizen Kane from Warner just so they could crop it a little less tightly.

yoloswegmaster420 · 02-08-2019, 11:19 PM

Janus has the rights for Koreeda's 'After Life': https://bampfa.org/event/after-life-reprise

Gacivory · 02-09-2019, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by yoloswegmaster420

Janus has the rights for Koreeda's 'After Life': https://bampfa.org/event/after-life-reprise

F*ck yes!!!!

Bates_Motel · 02-09-2019, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by moviebuff75

Citizen Kane could absolutely be improved. The current release is cropped a little tightly.

It's actually not, in the slightest. The US release shows the most picture of any region, and shows more than the DVD.

And since it's a new scan/restoration by WB from the best surviving elements, it's all you're going to get anyway.

Ray Jackson · 02-09-2019, 01:41 AM

Does anyone know when the next flash sale will likely be?

And does Amazon usually, or ever, price match during flash sales?

tisdivine · 02-09-2019, 02:06 AM

Im hoping its anytime after Tuesday. I want to pick up Berlin Alexanderplatz & La Verite along with a few others lol

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02-08-2019, 05:57 PM	#183945
regeyer Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2009 Trading Score:3	In relation to UHD and the fact the Criterion has not opted to produce them so far, I can't help but wonder what the price structure would be if and when they do. Criterion previously tried changing their packaging so that all releases came with a DVD and Blu-Ray, thus satisfying both types of customers. Unfortunately, DVD only customers, which is a surprisingly large percentage, were upset because they had to pay an increased price for a format they can't use. So Criterion ended the dual format releases. Currently, DVDs retail for $29.96, while Blu-Rays retail for $39.96. With the 50% off sales the difference is $14.98 vs $19.98. But what are the prices going to be if they release a UHD version. Assuming they keep DVDs and Blu-Rays at the current pricing, are the UHDs going to $49.96, or $24.98 during the 50% off sales? If so, are people going to pay the higher price? I know many of you will pay the higher price without batting an eyelash. But when there is a large percentage of people who still buy the DVDs, and a large group of people who don't have a UHD player or 4K HDTV, and the price for the UHD will be higher, one has to wonder how successful such a launch would be. I'm sure these are the sort of questions Criterion considers, along with the ramifications of streaming. In relation to streaming, they are going forward full steam. Perhaps they see a better future with streaming than they do UHD? Just some thoughts I had on this Friday afternoon as we get ready for another snow storm in Central New York.

02-08-2019, 08:21 PM	#183951
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:1051 Trading Score:51	I absolutely adored him in Erin Brockovich and Murder on the Orient Express. Those are my favorite performances of his (I still need to see some important movies he starred in, though).

02-08-2019, 09:02 PM	#183952
moviebuff75 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 4K collection:119 Blu-ray collection:1499 DVD collection:14	Citizen Kane could absolutely be improved. The current release is cropped a little tightly.

02-08-2019, 09:10 PM	#183953
mja345 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2015 4K collection:1166 Blu-ray collection:12350 DVD collection:266	Finney was an awesome actor. Check him out in "Saturday Night and Sunday Morning" if you haven't seen it. One of the definitive "angry young man" performances.

02-08-2019, 09:36 PM	#183954
Hoke Moseley Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2014 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1353 DVD collection:62 Digital collection:15 iTunes collection:7 Trading Score:156	Shoot the Moon would make a great Criterion release. Finney and Diane Keaton are both pretty sensational in it. Warner DVD is currently OOP...

02-08-2019, 11:19 PM	#183956
yoloswegmaster420 Power Member Member since:May 2015	Janus has the rights for Koreeda's 'After Life': https://bampfa.org/event/after-life-reprise

02-09-2019, 01:41 AM	#183959
Ray Jackson Blu-ray Duke Member since:Apr 2013 Location:The dark underbelly of Anytown, USA 4K collection:102 Blu-ray collection:455 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:74 Trading Score:183	Does anyone know when the next flash sale will likely be? And does Amazon usually, or ever, price match during flash sales?

02-09-2019, 02:06 AM	#183960
tisdivine Special Member Member since:Jan 2013 Location:Miami/Brooklyn/Vegas 4K collection:209 Blu-ray collection:209 Trading Score:10	Im hoping its anytime after Tuesday. I want to pick up Berlin Alexanderplatz & La Verite along with a few others lol

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