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professorwho · 04-30-2019, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwk

No, it is a Toei title. Arrow has released a number of their films, so they would be the ones to ask.

While Toei produced and did theatrical distribution, Kadokawa did the Japanese Blu-ray release. And yes, Criterion released some Kadokawa titles.

dwk · 04-30-2019, 01:37 AM

Ah, I didn't know that Kadokawa released it on Blu. Was that a licensing situation or does Toei no longer own it?

professorwho · 04-30-2019, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwk

Ah, I didn't know that Kadokawa released it on Blu. Was that a licensing situation or does Toei no longer own it?

(This is coming from someone who knows Japanese)

Kadokawa's website says they have release and distribution rights. Also, "(c)KADOKAWA 1981" is listed.

Toei has done theatrical distribution for films they don't own. Same with Toho. In Japan, theaters are divided by distributor, so it's quite common for a film not produced by either company to be released theatrically under them.

javy · 04-30-2019, 03:01 AM

I recently went through the Cassavetes 5 films set and then decided I need to see Love Streams as well, so I purchased it and gave it a watch. I've read in certain places that this film is an easier and lighter watch than A Woman Under the Influence, Opening Night, and The Killing of a Chinese Bookie. From my own experience I have to disagree. I found Love Streams a harder watch. By saying this I am by no means implying that it is a lesser film. It's a magnificent film. To me it was just harder to endure. I'm quite sure that this has something to do with my own experiences in life. But not sure what exactly.

Rowland's, who is obviously a phenomenal actress, plays a woman in mental deterioration, with a brother who has problems of his own.

The whole film is outstanding, as I'm sure everyone else here knows, so I just want to mention a couple things about the film that really resonated with me.

When Cassavetes character is talking to his son he tells him that he doesn't like men, and that if he wanted to know what "men" are like, "real men", then he should visit a truck stop sometime. I really liked that scene. I know what Cassavetes is saying there. Now, I'm not trying to downplay the male gender, I am a male, but I just totally get what he's saying.

The second scene I want to mention is near the end when Cassavetes is setting in his chair, sees the car pull up, looks over at the man setting in the chair next to him and says "who the f* are you! " That scene says it all. It told me what the underlying issues are, issues which are more often than not, the case.

Oh, I cannot not mention the exquisite ballerina dream sequence. Totally surreal.

It does seem a crime to mention only three scenes from the film when there is much more that can easily be discussed, but that's all I have for now.

After watching these six films it's very easy to see why John Cassavetes is a highly praised filmmaker.

KJones77 · 04-30-2019, 06:26 PM

New newsletter clue:

Chumley · 04-30-2019, 06:31 PM

What is that? Coppola and Norman Lear?

StarDestroyer52 · 04-30-2019, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJones77

New newsletter clue:

Someone on Reddit speculated that it could be the documentary "When We Were Kings"

ditcin · 04-30-2019, 06:37 PM

Well - it's not Fiend without a Face, Equinox. or Godzilla

FragnitoM · 04-30-2019, 06:41 PM

I was thinking King Lear, but the Coppola throws me

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Originally Posted by KJones77

New newsletter clue:

exzachary · 04-30-2019, 06:58 PM

It's Leon Gast and Jerry Garcia.

Double clue for The Grateful Dead Movie and When We Were Kings.

Looks like Gast is wearing a leather jacket. Maybe his Hell's Angels doc, too. Boxset?

Gacivory · 04-30-2019, 07:07 PM

It definitely can look like Jerry Garcia, just the lips being drawn that way made me think Coppola, but that definitely looks like Leon Gast on the left.

I was just hoping for somehow more Coppola releases!

MassiveMovieBuff · 04-30-2019, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gacivory

It definitely can look like Jerry Garcia, just the lips being drawn that way made me think Coppola, but that definitely looks like Leon Gast on the left.

I was just hoping for somehow more Coppola releases!

Coppola is the first thing that came to my mind too.

thatguamguy · 04-30-2019, 07:20 PM

Did the person who drew that hate hippies so much that he gave Jerry Garcia a haircut? 'Cause Jerry Garcia never had hair that short, as far as I can tell.

erlinmeyer · 04-30-2019, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatguamguy

Did the person who drew that hate hippies so much that he gave Jerry Garcia a haircut? 'Cause Jerry Garcia never had hair that short, as far as I can tell.

from JerryGarcia.com

high forehead, glasses and visible ears match

Cremildo · 04-30-2019, 07:53 PM

The clue has been solved, but it still looks more like Coppola to me.

thatguamguy · 04-30-2019, 07:53 PM

That's a good find, it took me a second glance before I noticed that his long hair is tied back, you can see some of it by the neck and shoulder strap of the guitar. I also think that a drawing meant to represent the common traditional Jerry Garcia image would have the gray beard that we see in that picture.

BTW, where is that picture? I just scrolled around jerrygarcia.com for a while, and all the pics (either photos or drawings) I saw were the traditional long haired ones, including the actual banner on the site. I don't doubt you that it's there, I'm just curious how long it took to actually find it amid all of the other normal pictures.

afraidofsunlight · 04-30-2019, 08:10 PM

I refuse to believe that's how Jason Polan would draw Jerry Garcia - especially because he was already the clue for Dead Man and he looks nothing like this drawing:

jrsl76 · 04-30-2019, 08:15 PM

I hope it is When We Were Kings, because it is fantastic and has never had a very good release.

octagon · 04-30-2019, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrsl76

I hope it is When We Were Kings, because it is fantastic and has never had a very good release.

I just did a quick thread search and the first time I put that on one of my wish lists was a little over eight years ago.

It really does fly by

jw007 · 04-30-2019, 08:59 PM

I'm thinking its more of a clue for When We Were Kings than anything to do with Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead.

Totally doubtful but...I also thought of Farewell to the King (written/directed by John Milius, who co-wrote Apocalypse Now, which Francis Ford Coppola directed too). And that guy with the beard def. looks like Coppola! Hell, it might even look like Milius when he was younger too!

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04-30-2019, 01:37 AM	#186282
dwk Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2010	Ah, I didn't know that Kadokawa released it on Blu. Was that a licensing situation or does Toei no longer own it?

04-30-2019, 03:01 AM	#186284
javy Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Synecdoche, New York 4K collection:94 Blu-ray collection:2667 DVD collection:120 Trading Score:78	I recently went through the Cassavetes 5 films set and then decided I need to see Love Streams as well, so I purchased it and gave it a watch. I've read in certain places that this film is an easier and lighter watch than A Woman Under the Influence, Opening Night, and The Killing of a Chinese Bookie. From my own experience I have to disagree. I found Love Streams a harder watch. By saying this I am by no means implying that it is a lesser film. It's a magnificent film. To me it was just harder to endure. I'm quite sure that this has something to do with my own experiences in life. But not sure what exactly. Rowland's, who is obviously a phenomenal actress, plays a woman in mental deterioration, with a brother who has problems of his own. The whole film is outstanding, as I'm sure everyone else here knows, so I just want to mention a couple things about the film that really resonated with me. When Cassavetes character is talking to his son he tells him that he doesn't like men, and that if he wanted to know what "men" are like, "real men", then he should visit a truck stop sometime. I really liked that scene. I know what Cassavetes is saying there. Now, I'm not trying to downplay the male gender, I am a male, but I just totally get what he's saying. The second scene I want to mention is near the end when Cassavetes is setting in his chair, sees the car pull up, looks over at the man setting in the chair next to him and says "who the f* are you! " That scene says it all. It told me what the underlying issues are, issues which are more often than not, the case. Oh, I cannot not mention the exquisite ballerina dream sequence. Totally surreal. It does seem a crime to mention only three scenes from the film when there is much more that can easily be discussed, but that's all I have for now. After watching these six films it's very easy to see why John Cassavetes is a highly praised filmmaker.

04-30-2019, 06:26 PM	#186285
KJones77 Special Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2018 Location:Virginia, United States 4K collection:64 Blu-ray collection:1164 DVD collection:5	New newsletter clue:

04-30-2019, 06:31 PM	#186286
Chumley Expert Member Member since:Apr 2016 Location:Just South of Nowhere	What is that? Coppola and Norman Lear?

04-30-2019, 06:37 PM	#186288
ditcin Power Member Member since:Apr 2011 Location:NY 4K collection:28 Blu-ray collection:597 Blu-ray reviews:1	Well - it's not Fiend without a Face, Equinox. or Godzilla

04-30-2019, 06:58 PM	#186290
exzachary Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2018 Location:USA 4K collection:394 Blu-ray collection:1573	It's Leon Gast and Jerry Garcia. Double clue for The Grateful Dead Movie and When We Were Kings. Looks like Gast is wearing a leather jacket. Maybe his Hell's Angels doc, too. Boxset?

04-30-2019, 07:07 PM	#186291
Gacivory Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2016 Location:Los Angeles, California 4K collection:1121 Blu-ray collection:5612 DVD collection:183 Digital collection:25 Trading Score:1	It definitely can look like Jerry Garcia, just the lips being drawn that way made me think Coppola, but that definitely looks like Leon Gast on the left. I was just hoping for somehow more Coppola releases!

04-30-2019, 07:20 PM	#186293
thatguamguy Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2016 Trading Score:4	Did the person who drew that hate hippies so much that he gave Jerry Garcia a haircut? 'Cause Jerry Garcia never had hair that short, as far as I can tell.

04-30-2019, 07:53 PM	#186295
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:1051 Trading Score:51	The clue has been solved, but it still looks more like Coppola to me.

04-30-2019, 07:53 PM	#186296
thatguamguy Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2016 Trading Score:4	That's a good find, it took me a second glance before I noticed that his long hair is tied back, you can see some of it by the neck and shoulder strap of the guitar. I also think that a drawing meant to represent the common traditional Jerry Garcia image would have the gray beard that we see in that picture. BTW, where is that picture? I just scrolled around jerrygarcia.com for a while, and all the pics (either photos or drawings) I saw were the traditional long haired ones, including the actual banner on the site. I don't doubt you that it's there, I'm just curious how long it took to actually find it amid all of the other normal pictures.

04-30-2019, 08:10 PM	#186297
afraidofsunlight Member Member since:Oct 2015 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:847 DVD collection:221 Trading Score:2	I refuse to believe that's how Jason Polan would draw Jerry Garcia - especially because he was already the clue for Dead Man and he looks nothing like this drawing:

04-30-2019, 08:15 PM	#186298
jrsl76 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Glendale, CA 4K collection:316 Blu-ray collection:3240 DVD collection:637 Trading Score:66	I hope it is When We Were Kings, because it is fantastic and has never had a very good release.

04-30-2019, 08:59 PM	#186300
jw007 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Between PA, NJ, FL, and the Middle East Blu-ray collection:628 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:5	I'm thinking its more of a clue for When We Were Kings than anything to do with Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead. Totally doubtful but...I also thought of Farewell to the King (written/directed by John Milius, who co-wrote Apocalypse Now, which Francis Ford Coppola directed too). And that guy with the beard def. looks like Coppola! Hell, it might even look like Milius when he was younger too!

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