The Criterion Collection

[dancerslegs]

Originally Posted by mja345

It's a great film. If you haven't seen them, check out Aleksei German's films "Hard to Be a God" and "Khrustalyov, My Car!", which are both heavily influenced by "Marketa Lazarova" stylistically.

Also German's Trial on the Road (1971), if you can find it.

[The Sovereign]

Originally Posted by regeyer

holy moly! I just checked my movie diary (yes, i keep one) and i watched wild strawberries for the first time on 8/1/13. So, without planning it, i watched it the second time six years later to the date. What are the odds?

1/365

[SleazyForWeasley]

Originally Posted by acroyear2

Has anyone returned their Criterions due to a damaged booklet/leaflet, even if lightly damaged?

I never outright return them, no. I always request a replacement for the damaged piece from Criterion, and they've come through 100%. This has happened on booklets/packaging for My Life As A Dog, The Tree of Life, and a few instances of discs with disc rot where I had to mail them the discs only and they replaced the discs.

[gbm82]

Originally Posted by mja345

It's a great film. If you haven't seen them, check out Aleksei German's films "Hard to Be a God" and "Khrustalyov, My Car!", which are both heavily influenced by "Marketa Lazarova" stylistically.

I recently watched Khrustalyov, My Car! and loved that too. I kept thinking about it and how it must have been influenced by Marketa Lazarova

Originally Posted by malakaheso

Watch Valley of The Bees next. Vlacil shot them back to back. Completely different film, but it's amazing to me that he made two high quality films in such a short time.

I'll have to seek that out.

Originally Posted by Cinema84

What is the film about? I may do a blind buy before the sale is over.

It's clan against clan action movie with a virginal daughter being kidnapped and violent climax.
But it's hardly a traditional action movie; methodical pacing with abrupt scenes of violence. Plenty of surrealistic scenes, no real sense of time, weird angles and first person shots. The movie seems intent on disorientating the viewer and then bringing them back in.

Edit: after a quick look through your collection, I'd say get it. It'd probably make a good double feature with The Passion of Joan of Arc

[Darth Marcus]

And with Monsieur Verdoux I'm officially done with this sale. Here's my haul for the month:

[javy]

Originally Posted by gbm82

Just watchedMarketa Lazarová. Holy ****...what a fascinating film. Full of great shots, disorientating and perhaps a bit overlong; this might be my favorite Criterion blind buy. And now I need something sleazy to wash this arthouse off...

Originally Posted by gbm82

It's clan against clan action movie with a virginal daughter being kidnapped and violent climax.
But it's hardly a traditional action movie; methodical pacing with abrupt scenes of violence. Plenty of surrealistic scenes, no real sense of time, weird angles and first person shots. The movie seems intent on disorientating the viewer and then bringing them back in.

I've been interested in this film for a while. You just sold me on it.

[Dailyan]

I was at my only B&N in my state today and decided to pick up two titles before the sale ended:

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by The Sovereign

1/365

Actually, there's more to it than that.

I spoke with a friend of mine who's a math genius and engineer to see if I could get some clarification. It's a little complicated, and there are some variables that could change the odds, but he concluded that there is a 1 in 438,000 chance that I would watch that film on the exact same date.

In calculating this he took into consideration not only the fact that there are 365 days in a year, but also the number of movies that I had to choose from. In my personal collection I have about 1,200. But I also have access to tens of thousands more through Prime, Netflix, The Criterion Channel, Cable, and my public library. But if we just used the 1,200 I have in my my personal library then you'd multiply 365 days by 1,200 and the odds of me watching that particular movie on that particular day is 1 in 438,000. There are, as indicated, other variables that could alter the odds. The bottom line is that it would be rare that I would randomly watch the same movie on the same date. And that's not even taking into consideration the fact that I've only watched the movie twice. Hmmmm . . . maybe I should watch Wild Strawberries every 8/1.

[MifuneFan]

That's just a glitch in the matrix, and evidence that we're in a simulation

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

That's just a glitch in the matrix, and evidence that we're in a simulation

They live, we sleep.

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

That's just a glitch in the matrix, and evidence that we're in a simulation

[Abdrewes]

yeah, 365*1200. I have a civil engineering degree but that's as basic a probability problem as they get. I'd be curious to see what the other variables are that could change the odds. Can't think of any apart from the choosing method. If it's selecting a title blindfolded, something on the center of the bluray shelf has best odds as it's natural to avoid the edges.

Woot, the Mrs. picked up Do the Right thing and 1984 today. Wasn't a big fan of the latter the last time I saw it, but I'm looking forward to seeing it in much better quality. I remember that dvd being pretty murky looking.

Originally Posted by regeyer

Actually, there's more to it than that.

I spoke with a friend of mine who's a math genius and engineer to see if I could get some clarification. It's a little complicated, and there are some variables that could change the odds, but he concluded that there is a 1 in 438,000 chance that I would watch that film on the exact same date.

In calculating this he took into consideration not only the fact that there are 365 days in a year, but also the number of movies that I had to choose from. In my personal collection I have about 1,200. But I also have access to tens of thousands more through Prime, Netflix, The Criterion Channel, Cable, and my public library. But if we just used the 1,200 I have in my my personal library then you'd multiply 365 days by 1,200 and the odds of me watching that particular movie on that particular day is 1 in 438,000. There are, as indicated, other variables that could alter the odds. The bottom line is that it would be rare that I would randomly watch the same movie on the same date. And that's not even taking into consideration the fact that I've only watched the movie twice. Hmmmm . . . maybe I should watch Wild Strawberries every 8/1.

[lemonski]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

yeah, 365*1200. I have a civil engineering degree but that's as basic a probability problem as they get. I'd be curious to see what the other variables are that could change the odds. Can't think of any apart from the choosing method. If it's selecting a title blindfolded, something on the center of the bluray shelf has best odds as it's natural to avoid the edges.

I’d say the odds are much better than 365*1200. If you watch one movie a day every day of the year, the the odds of watching the same movie from your collection on a specified day from the year before, choosing at random, are only 1 in 1200, no? It would only be 1 in 438,000 if you only watched one movie a year. And every year that goes by, your chances of “hitting the jackpot” increase....didn’t the OP say the day he saw Wild Strawberries was 6 years ago?

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by lemonski

I’d say the odds are much better than 365*1200. If you watch one movie a day every day of the year, the the odds of watching the same movie from your collection on a specified day from the year before, choosing at random, are only 1 in 1200, no? It would only be 1 in 438,000 if you only watched one movie a year. And every year that goes by, your chances of “hitting the jackpot” increase....didn’t the OP say the day he saw Wild Strawberries was 6 years ago?

I agree that there are a lot of other variables. The odds could be less, or greater. But I'm still sort of shocked that the two times I watched this movie, six years apart, just happened to fall on the same date. And that wouldn't have happened except for the fact that I'm working my way through the Bergman set and Wild Strawberries was next in line.

[gbm82]

Originally Posted by regeyer

I agree that there are a lot of other variables. The odds could be less, or greater. But I'm still sort of shocked that the two times I watched this movie, six years apart, just happened to fall on the same date. And that wouldn't have happened except for the fact that I'm working my way through the Bergman set and Wild Strawberries was next in line.

Kizmiaz - YouTube

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by lemonski

I’d say the odds are much better than 365*1200. If you watch one movie a day every day of the year, the the odds of watching the same movie from your collection on a specified day from the year before, choosing at random, are only 1 in 1200, no? It would only be 1 in 438,000 if you only watched one movie a year. And every year that goes by, your chances of “hitting the jackpot” increase....didn’t the OP say the day he saw Wild Strawberries was 6 years ago?

They do increase based on those original constraints. You're right. Wouldn't it be 6yrs/(365days*1200movies)= 1 in 73,000

The math still holds true for a perfectly random selection of that movie on those two dates spaced a year apart. i.e. August 3, 2019 the random bluray generator selected Wild Strawberries then exactly one year later on August 3rd, 2020 the random bluray generator selected Wild Strawberries for its second selection in that year span (with other titles selected every day in between, no Wild Strawberries).

If it's simply a matter of one day out of the year trying to see if you can randomly select last years' title then yeah, the odds are 1/1200.

If it's seeing if the same movie gets selected within the year, with no specific date of selection in mind the math should be (dunno if i'm just tired, but I did have to look this one up) [1-(1/1200)]^365 = 74%

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But back to regeyer's original post, I think the odds of that particular scenario happening based on his/her particular case are actually not all that surprising. Assuming regeyer bought the Bergman set during this Criterion sale and the Original release of Wild Strawberries 6 years ago, and like many people on this forum, he/she tends to watch films shortly after buying them, that's actually a much, much smaller pool than we were calculating for. It's more like selecting the same movie in two different months based on a limited pool of Criterion purchases (with Criterion B&N double dips rising to the very tippity top of the probability pool), streaming picks, etc.

But alas, engineers like nice little neat problems where one doesn't need to account for variables lol. Just there I was making assumptions to simplify the equation.

[Abdrewes]

Apologies to regeyer, based on his original post it turned out to be more complex than the simple calc i initially made,

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

But back to regeyer's original post, I think the odds of that particular scenario happening based on his/her particular case are actually not all that surprising. Assuming regeyer bought the Bergman set during this Criterion sale and the Original release of Wild Strawberries 6 years ago, and like many people on this forum, he/she tends to watch films shortly after buying them, that's actually a much, much smaller pool than we were calculating for. It's more like selecting the same movie in two different months based on a limited pool of Criterion purchases (with Criterion B&N double dips rising to the very tippity top of the probability pool), streaming picks, etc.

Actually, my first viewing of Wild Strawberries was with a Blu-Ray copy I borrowed from the library.

Oh, and by the way, my name is Rob (I'm a guy).

[Rzzzz]

Originally Posted by gbm82

Kizmiaz - YouTube

I saw that band more times than I can count back in the day. Criterion needs to release this....

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by regeyer

Actually, my first viewing of Wild Strawberries was with a Blu-Ray copy I borrowed from the library.

Oh, and by the way, my name is Rob (I'm a guy).

Hey Rob! Andrew here.

That definitely makes the odds slimmer than I assumed (and closer to that 1 in 73,000 one).

There's really a great number of variables to zero in the actual probability better

1. Do Criterion Sales make you more inclined to watch Criterion released films this time of year?
2. How big is that pool of viewing options? Describe it 6 years ago as opposed to now.
3. What's the viewing split between films you watch from your own library vs. streaming and library rentals?
4. What percentage of your viewings are rewatches?
5. How many films a day do you watch? (then vs. now)

Ok, this is getting to be ridiculous. I think you'll need an analytics team to study your viewing logs, come up a series of viewing algorithms, then calculate the probability. (unless you're happy with these crude calculations, which, heck, may be wrong. Someone needs to step in to get me off the hook.)