4K Movies Releases

[vargo]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I assume? what you’re implying is that their codec will work well with a low noise digital source (i.e. Red Epic acquisition) but will be quite challenged by a noisey/grainy source like with some older films or low-end digital cameras used for principal photography.

They wowed people with their 10Mbps 4k demo in 2009.

3 years of code maturity and encoder optimisation later, they can achieve high quality 4k at ..... 20Mbps?

I will listen to their claims when they do some independent encoder tests and comparisons.

[Flatnate]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

This morning I was emailed this (which I haven’t read, but he tells me that Spears (Stacey) has posted on page 9) -

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...-REDray-Player

I’m not sure if that ^ is what you desire and I can’t vouch as to its ultimate accuracy in regards to the baked end product(s) but, I was assured that the RED product-related posts made by the Red Team, i.e. Jarred Land, Stuart English and Jim (Jannard) were true and accurate, at least at the time of publication…and, for all I know , may also be accurate at this point in time but, of course, best to wait for final details on Nov. 30th, especially if you’re a potential buyer.

Hey thanks Penton. Not quite what I was looking for, but any post by Stacey Spears is usually a good read and well worth passing along (big Widescreen Review fan here). I thought I read or saw a picture about what is essentially a slimmed down RedRay unit; different than the one shown on the main product page.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by vargo

They wowed people with their 10Mbps 4k demo in 2009.
3 years of code maturity and encoder optimisation later, they can achieve high quality 4k at ..... 20Mbps?
I will listen to their claims when they do some independent encoder tests and comparisons.

Ah, I catch your drift now.

You want evidence like this…https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ce#post6678037

from comparative scientific testing rather than testimonials on a demo. I’m not so sure that “they” can, or will, do some independent encoder tests and comparisons. I think you’ll need an independent 3rd party to do something like that. Also, since REDRAY will be first out of the gate for 4K content home delivery, I don’t know if there is even much motivation for them to do so.

I suspect the most you can hope for initially would be a ‘White Paper’ issued by the Red folks.

[pentatonic]

Hi Penton, hope your health is good and improving as time passes.

On a side note, when do you think this technology will be available for consumers at a price point that makes it easy access ($5k let's say)?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by pentatonic

Hi Penton, hope your health is good and improving as time passes.

On a side note, when do you think this technology will be available for consumers at a price point that makes it easy access ($5k let's say)?

Thanks for asking . Health-wise, good days intermixed with days like this…

The Shirelles Mama Said There'd Be Days Like This - YouTube

But I’m thankful for all I have and try to maintain a stiff upper lip every day.

As to your question, I’m not a specific timeline forecaster type of guy. That’s for people far smarter than me who can analyze a multitude of variables (which no 1 entity has control over) and issue a confident prediction. My brain is just too little to process something like that.

I‘m more confident in predicting that when 4K does arrive at your price point and you are conflicted while watching the imagery of some future 4K remaster of an older film, that the issuance of a boilerplate damage control statement like this (last paragraph) has an excellent chance of happening yet again, after your $5,000. install…
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ed#post6560369

Curtain call.
Sometimes reality is worse than the rumors.

[Penton-Man]

But if you desire some direction as to what brand I think will take a leadership role in challenging your $5,000. price point, I would follow Toshiba closely….
http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic..._TVs_next_year

Pentatonic, sometimes I feel we are brothers who met years ago when footloose and fancy-free somewhere in Hawaii.

[Penton-Man]

To any Blu-ray.com 4K readers/afectionados from the era of ‘lurps’ and such.
A tip of the hat come Sunday -

http://moments.org/thank-you-for-your-service/

[pentatonic]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

But if you desire some direction as to what brand I think will take a leadership role in challenging your $5,000. price point, I would follow Toshiba closely….
http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic..._TVs_next_year

Pentatonic, sometimes I feel we are brothers who met years ago when footloose and fancy-free somewhere in Hawaii.

lol, who knows, I was there in '84 or '85 (memory at my age ) so we might have rubbed elbows at a luau, sharing fruit filled exotic drinks, while the natural beauties of the Islands were making a warm night even better.

As for your health, good news and keep on keeping on.

Toshiba, why am I not surprised. In no hurry, but real curious.

Thanks my brother Penton

[saprano]

Penton is back in full force.

I like.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

Penton is back in full force.

I like.

You haven’t heard?
Absenteeism color correction is the most innovative method to the pathway of convenience….

Studio executive to Director of Photography:
‘Dude, just send me the notes as to darker, brighter, bluer…whatever, as I’ve got another call waiting on extension 2, and my people will use their best judgment.’

Director of Photography:
OK

...switching extensions...

Studio executive to Administrative Assistant:
‘Nancy, please come in here and find my official DP-approved stamp from Office Max. We’ve done our due diligence on this one. It’s not like we’re dealing with some multi-Academy Award winning motion picture here.’

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by pentatonic

lol, who knows, I was there in '84 or '85 (memory at my age ) so we might have rubbed elbows at a luau, sharing fruit filled exotic drinks, while the natural beauties of the Islands were making a warm night even better...

Tell me about it. I ended up marrying a native born island girl from the Pacific. Celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary a few years back.

She's the best thing in my life.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You haven’t heard?
Absenteeism color correction is the most innovative method to the pathway of convenience….

^ Addendum : https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=1#post6724509

If I get some time, I’ll provide a collaborative reference to my remarks since this inequity has long been a topic of concern and frustration among DP’s and it applies to both 4K and 2K movie releases, irrespective of the rez.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Tell me about it. I ended up marrying a native born island girl from the Pacific. Celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary a few years back.

She's the best thing in my life.

And in recent years, our dog was the best thing in OUR lives . I don’t think I’ve ever known a tougher living thing who had such an enduring zest for life…on more than one occasion he even faced down a wild predator probably about 8x his size, not yielding an inch of ground.

In Memoriam

11/11/2012 – As of last Sunday, R.I.P. in heaven dearest one, as your battle with your illness is over. You were the best friend EVER, little fella, and loved by many in our neighborhood as well as family all over the country.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=19549
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=19550

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

^ Addendum : https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=1#post6724509

If I get some time, I’ll provide a collaborative reference to my remarks since this inequity has long been a topic of concern and frustration among DP’s and it applies to both 4K and 2K movie releases, irrespective of the rez.

Concerning this ^. I need a little time for reflection after the loss of a loved one, so I’ll have to get back to you guys later on. Man, having to make the decision to put your dog to sleep, as the proper thing to do for his sake, and holding him with your wife while watching the vet perform the actual procedure isn’t an easy thing.

[pentatonic]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

And in recent years, our dog was the best thing in OUR lives . I don’t think I’ve ever known a tougher living thing who had such an enduring zest for life…on more than one occasion he even faced down a wild predator probably about 8x his size, not yielding an inch of ground.

In Memoriam

11/11/2012 – As of last Sunday, R.I.P. in heaven dearest one, as your battle with your illness is over. You were the best friend EVER, little fella, and loved by many in our neighborhood as well as family all over the country.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=19549
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=19550

damn sorry to hear that Penton, I've never had a dog to call my own best friend but through others have experienced this. Hope you and the family are doing good through this.

[Steedeel]

Sorry to hear that Penton Man, I too, had to make that decision and watch my pet slip away in my arms. The world feels like a poorer place without him. Would love to hug him just one more time.

[Livelong420]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You haven’t heard?
Absenteeism color correction is the most innovative method to the pathway of convenience….
Studio executive to Director of Photography:
‘Dude, just send me the notes as to darker, brighter, bluer…whatever, as I’ve got another call waiting on extension 2, and my people will use their best judgment.’
Director of Photography:
OK
...switching extensions...
Studio executive to Administrative Assistant:
‘Nancy, please come in here and find my official DP-approved stamp from Office Max. We’ve done our due diligence on this one. It’s not like we’re dealing with some multi-Academy Award winning motion picture here.’

This! It's funny, then it's sad because it's true.

Sorry about your dog! Lost mine over a year ago

[Constitution 101]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Concerning this ^. I need a little time for reflection after the loss of a loved one, so I’ll have to get back to you guys later on. Man, having to make the decision to put your dog to sleep, as the proper thing to do for his sake, and holding him with your wife while watching the vet perform the actual procedure isn’t an easy thing.

FWIW, you did the right(albeit very difficult) thing. We waited too late and sadly found our oldest dog(hearing/vision impaired) floating in the pool upon coming home one day. You exercised the best option by far.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Constitution 101

FWIW, you did the right(albeit very difficult) thing.

agree, it is never easy, but it is better for the dog as well.

[kristoffer]

Sony has a new SDK for a new 4K format with 12 bit color depth and support for 60 fps in 4K. ( remember that BD is 8bit color )
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/14/s...4k-video-spec/