4K Blu-ray Confirmed, Coming in

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

It's not a problem for dedicated movie fans but a delay can really throw cold-water on a product launch. About 25% of annual, personal spending takes place during the holiday season with more than a 50% jump in department store sales from November to December....

You don’t say. Dex, I didn’t know you cared ….in a positive manner about the long term success of the Ultra HD Blu-ray format extension. You clever fox you, hiding all along behind that skull with no musculature or skin….well then, the CECs and content providers will just have to meet your advised deadline.

No matter what, you bidness boys always seem to want more steam ….

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Got any other good ideas to share and make some money for yourself while at it? Organizers are still soliciting…..
http://www.thesummitla.com/ . Namely, bullet point #6….http://www.thesummitla.com/2015/05/1...entertainment/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dubious

So... are FX, FXX, ABC, Fox, ABC Family, Fox Sports, Fox News, ESPN 1/2/U/News, MLB Network, and SEC networks all going to make the inevitable switch from 720p to 1440p?

All PeterTHX and I care about are NBC and NBCSN……
http://sportsvideo.org/main/blog/201...yes-sportsnet/

[reanimator]

Originally Posted by NeonStreetMelt

Ok, so it's just a couple weeks from September and I'm still waiting to see one single official or leaked ad, announcement, anything, that confirms 4k/UHD players and/or titles.

Be patient, the wait is almost over...

http://www.whathifi.com/news/ifa-201...audio-and-more

"Ron Martin, VP of Panasonic Hollywood Laboratory has told What Hi-Fi? that the industry is planning to reveal the first products in September.

A September launch is designed to ensure Ultra HD Blu-ray hardware and discs are in shops and available to buy in time for Christmas.

Asked about the Ultra HD Blu-ray release date, Martin said: "Certainly for Panasonic, and most manufacturers, by IFA time in September we want to have players showing content. By holiday season, we want these to be available."

IFA is the biggest consumer electronics show in Europe and gets under way on 4th September."

[sonicyogurt]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

You can end up with a chicken and egg conundrum. Selling a big ticket UHD BD player in February becomes a very hard sell. If players aren't moving, there's a danger that studios won't be in a big hurry to pump out titles. the next big sales opportunity is the holiday 2016 season.

I don't think UHD BD's gotta-be-on-the-bleeding-edge target audience will be deterred by a release window outside of the holidays. These are generally well-to-do people / enthusiasts buying something for themselves, and they're going to be less sensitive to price and the like.

UHD BD will almost certainly launch with a very limited selection of movies and an extremely limited selection of players, so you could even make the argument that a quieter launch is more ideal: saving the marketing muscle until the format is more fully-baked (more players, more reasonable prices, deeper library). "Just in time for Christmas! A $600 player and maybe a dozen movies to choose from!" isn't going to turn a lot of heads. It doesn't help that everyone involved is hellbent on generating as little excitement about the format as possible. I feel like I'm more excited about UHD BD than any of its actual stakeholders are.

For what it's worth, DVD, HD DVD, and Blu-ray all launched in the first half of the year. (Then again, none of those had particularly amazing launches either!)

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

I hope that even if the audio codecs are ATMOS and DTS X that they see any improvement possible, just because, why not? I'm wondering if the bitrate and sampling frequency could improve.

Not sure what you're asking here since both codecs can go 24-bit 96 or 192kHz.


It all lies in the mastering rate, not the codecs. They're already more than capable.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by reanimator

Be patient, the wait is almost over...
http://www.whathifi.com/news/ifa-201...audio-and-more
"Ron Martin, VP of Panasonic Hollywood Laboratory has told What Hi-Fi? that the industry is planning to reveal the first products in September.
A September launch is designed to ensure Ultra HD Blu-ray hardware and discs are in shops and available to buy in time for Christmas.
Asked about the Ultra HD Blu-ray release date, Martin said: "Certainly for Panasonic, and most manufacturers, by IFA time in September we want to have players showing content. By holiday season, we want these to be available."

IFA is the biggest consumer electronics show in Europe and gets under way on 4th September."

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Thanks given by: HeavyHitter (Today)

I don’t know guys. Didn’t one of the senior analysts who writes for AVS forum inform one of you last year that Ultra HD Blu-ray would never happen?

Dex has got some folks worried now…..need to take care of dem flies and add more steam….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfGs...utu.be&t=1m36s

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

....Which i'm hearing might not even make it there either.

Sap, where’d you go?

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

And (from the great state of New York)

http://www.filmlinc.org/nyff2015/dai...15-main-slate/

^ Bridge of Spies, shot with Sap’s favorite medium analog (celluloid, rather than digital acquisition) and having gone thru a 4K DI to produce a 4K finish) .

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

^
P.S.
So, one might ask, what’s some of the stuff the ASC’s UHDTV Subcommittee up to (evaluating) these days?

Answer: high dynamic range technology as applied to monitor displays.

Which, on that note , just a few months ago over at thee Clubhouse on Orange, Curtis Clark, the ASC chair of the Society’s Technology Committee joined UHDTV Subcommittee Chair Don Eklund for a daylong demo and enlightenment with a presentation on HDR monitors and the importance of

achieving the best outputs on professional and consumer displays. Participating vendors included Sony, Canon, Dolby, Vizio, Panasonic, LG and Samsung which all ran footage from a motion picture lensed by Robert Primes ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0140017/ ).

Also, the Advanced Imaging subcommittee has turned its attention to support the UHDTV subcommittee, but it's 11;00 A.M. and I'm out of time for today.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I don’t know guys. Didn’t one of the senior analysts who writes for AVS forum inform one of you last year that Ultra HD Blu-ray would never happen?

Dex has got some folks worried now…..need to take care of dem flies and add more steam….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfGs...utu.be&t=1m36s

Yes, imagic (who seems to have vitriol for Blu-ray in general) claimed it would not happen...and good ole' amirm jumped in on the same thread claiming it would never happen either. I guess he is still writing science fiction books?

[reanimator]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

...and good ole' amirm jumped in on the same thread claiming it would never happen either.

If I remember correctly, he actually stated that 4K content in our homes was a "fantasy" that would never occur.

... yeah ...

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by reanimator

If I remember correctly, he actually stated that 4K content in our homes was a "fantasy" that would never occur.

... yeah ...

His track record of BS is probably too long to even post. Shaking my head at how some of the passionate HD DVD supporters at AVS during the format war looked up to him so much.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Yes, imagic (who seems to have vitriol for Blu-ray in general) claimed it would not happen...

Well, I normally only take issue with the celebrity guru types when they talk nonsense,
time
and
AGAIN

so you’ll have to excuse me if I failed to remember the exact names or handles of all the analysts on social media AV sites.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

guru types

Which reminds me, if during the course of some of the UHD TV presentations/panels at the upcoming IBC in Amsterdam (and I’m not specifically referring to Joe here, but rather others I’m familiar with), if some other speakers plan on bashing 4K or 4K tvs in general by beating thee old, tiresome ‘HDR (or HFR, at least for sports ) is better than increased spatial resolution drum’ like so….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post10983562

Hey……that is not news! Everybody knows that….and has known that for a long time! Get over it! If you can’t, then my recommendation to the *purists* living in the ivory towers of this or that organization spending time on the conference circuit, is to form your own consumer television manufacturing company and see how well that goes; otherwise, contribute something constructive at IBC.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

your own consumer television manufacturing company

Which reminds me, I wonder how well this IPO will fare….http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-...for-ipo-2015-7

I have mixed feelings as to getting in on this, if offered to me.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://blog.sony.com/press/blu-ray-...ra-hd-blu-ray/

I don’t think a few weeks on either side of Dec.31st is much of a big deal unless you’ve got money burning a hole in your pocket for a few select titles. The more important thing is whether or not the juice is worth the squeeze. And (from the great state of New York), it sure will look better than ‘VHS 4K’…..http://sportsvideo.org/main/blog/201....SCJD9NeC.dpuf

Stay with us Sap….

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJo5Pc7mhg"]Anticipation - YouTube[url]


For as my grandma Emma would say….”Be patient and you will be rewarded”.

Just doesn't seem like anything of significance is happening this holiday. They can claim we're getting close but this is not the first product that was promised to be coming at a certain time frame and ended up not releasing at all.


On another note........i wish 4K players were backwards compatible with 1080p displays.

[Kris Deering]

Amir is giving a presentation/class on UHD at CEDIA this year.

[dubious]

Originally Posted by saprano

On another note........i wish 4K players were backwards compatible with 1080p displays.

Who has said they are not? Having support for 1080p down-scaling in the player outputs sounds like a fairly simple solution given the required processing power to process 2160p content to begin with.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Amir is giving a presentation/class on UHD at CEDIA this year.

Really?

Next they will have Putin as guest speaker on Ukrainian Independence Day.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Really?

Next they will have Putin as guest speaker on Ukrainian Independence Day.

Ouch, that is harsh.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by dubious

Who has said they are not? Having support for 1080p down-scaling in the player outputs sounds like a fairly simple solution given the required processing power to process 2160p content to begin with.

Exactly what I was thinking, where has it been said they're not compatible? In fact I remember reading in one of the leaked proposal documents that if HDCP 2.2 is not detected in the chain then the player will downscale the output to 1080p anyway, i.e. connect it to a regular HDTV and it'll work fine.