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Old 04-09-2007, 11:13 AM   #621
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Let first give you a disclaimer that SCE is very careful about providing answers to questions like yours. The gaming industry is very competitive I think a culture has developed accordingly at SCE.

What I can tell you is that SCE is very aware of the demand for 24p and I do expect to see a firmware update to support it in the not to distant future.

They are also aware of the desire for DTS HD MA, but this is not trivial and will take longer, if it can be done at all. The Cell processor is powerful, but using a CPU to do the work of a DSP is not so easy.
Paidgeek, since this was answered ^ you might be able to tell me if there is a firmware upgrade planned that deinterlaces 1080i content. Thanks for your insights, they are greatly appreciated.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 02:41 PM   #622
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Paidgeek, since this was answered ^ you might be able to tell me if there is a firmware upgrade planned that deinterlaces 1080i content. Thanks for your insights, they are greatly appreciated.
This is not likely to show up in the PS3, but it is going to become routine HD displays. Sony will have several models that do this starting this Spring. I know other companies will as well.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 02:49 PM   #623
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paidgeek do you know why the PS3 does not scalle 1080p BDs to 720p like all other HD players on the market?
 
Old 04-09-2007, 03:05 PM   #624
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Paidgeek Will sony start to use DD TrueHD as well PCM from now on?

And will we soon/ever see a movie in 7.1, 24/96?

Thanks!

I don't think we will provide both LPCM and DD THD as a standard feature.

We don't mix our films in 7.1 (with 4 surrounds) so it is not likely. We may experiment with 24/96 especially with music driven product.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 03:08 PM   #625
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Converting SACD (DST) to PCM takes 5 SPEs. I think MPEG-2/AVC/VC-1 decoding takes about two. Do you figure that it'll take about 5 SPEs to decode DTS HDMA?

How is TrueHD decoded on the PS3 then? Does it have a dedicated DSP? Can the DSP be firmware upgraded?

I realize that you're not speaking on behalf of the SCE or its engineers. Maybe Talk or kjack can enlighten us.


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I have heard various numbers on how many processors are required to decode DTS HD MA and I am not sure what the truth is. There is no dedicated DSP according to my information.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 03:09 PM   #626
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What is "profile 3"?
Is it possible we could see a audio only BD format in the future?
An audio only profile already exists. This allows for players with no display that are dedicated for audio use.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 03:30 PM   #627
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I don't think we will provide both LPCM and DD THD as a standard feature.

We don't mix our films in 7.1 (with 4 surrounds) so it is not likely. We may experiment with 24/96 especially with music driven product.
As far as I am concerned, just keep releasing titles with LPCM as you are now, as I don't need to worry about being able to decode TrueHD, DTS-MA etc.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 03:32 PM   #628
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As far as I am concerned, just keep releasing titles with LPCM as you are now, as I don't need to worry about being able to decode TrueHD, DTS-MA etc.
I agree. LPCM > *.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 05:52 PM   #629
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At least 5 of the titles you mention will be out in the next 12 months. Don't miss "A Few Good Men", the master for that one was outstanding. You did not mention "Seven Years in Tibet" and that will also be a reference catalog title.

With DVD it was great to have beloved titles out in that format, but with Blu-ray, many of the catalog titles going back 50 years are just outstanding. It is going to be a great ride...

I, too, look forward to back-catalog material. Some studios have released various B&W collections such as Marx Brothers, John Wayne, Katherine Hepburn collections in the last year or two that I would love to see on BD, both for the detail and the wider aspect ratio.

That said, I also note that many of these collections did nothing to clean up the dirt in their prints. I worry that would be the same case with a BD version. Still, I hold off buying in hopes of interesting (remastered) boxed set releases sooner than later.

Cheers!
 
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This is not likely to show up in the PS3, but it is going to become routine HD displays. Sony will have several models that do this starting this Spring. I know other companies will as well.

Some Sony SXRDs already do proper inverse telecine for 1080i. The VPL VW100 tested well with film based sources, but like most deinterlacing solutions outside of the top names (VRS/DVDO, Gennum, HQV, Faroudja) has some problems with video based material.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 07:43 PM   #631
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This is not likely to show up in the PS3, but it is going to become routine HD displays. Sony will have several models that do this starting this Spring. I know other companies will as well.
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Some Sony SXRDs already do proper inverse telecine for 1080i. The VPL VW100 tested well with film based sources, but like most deinterlacing solutions outside of the top names (VRS/DVDO, Gennum, HQV, Faroudja) has some problems with video based material.
That's too bad. My display won't be replaced anytime soon and neither will the PS3. Thanks for the info though.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 09:43 PM   #632
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paidgeek do you know why the PS3 does not scalle 1080p BDs to 720p like all other HD players on the market?

PS3 does not have a dedicated scaler built in. Scaling features may be added in the future.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 09:49 PM   #633
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PS3 does not have a dedicated scaler built in. Scaling features may be added in the future.
ps3 scaled bd movies to 720p in a earlier firmware, so it has the capacity to do it.
 
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Paid: you mention A Few Good Men and Seven Years in Tibet. Anything else you can tell us about? In the "other" forum you mentioned Starship Troopers will be very grainy. Was it MPEG2 or AVC? What kind of soundtrack will it have, and will the extras from the DVD SE show up on it?

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paidgeek do you know why the PS3 does not scalle 1080p BDs to 720p like all other HD players on the market?
Just set the output to 1080i. I'm sure your TV would do a better job than the PS3 doing it in software anyway.
 
Old 04-09-2007, 10:17 PM   #635
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Just set the output to 1080i. I'm sure your TV would do a better job than the PS3 doing it in software anyway.
Not necessarily. The PS3 could take the 24P stream and just scale each frame down to 720P without any intermediate steps. For a TV to scale 1080i it would first have to convert it to progressive before scaling it down - a lot of HDTVs don't bother doing some kind of inverse telecine for 1080i, so the result is that you lose a lot more quality than you otherwise would. My guess is a lot of them just convert to 1920x540P and then scale that to 720P instead, meaning you lose even more resolution.

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Old 04-09-2007, 11:50 PM   #636
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I think that this year, one of the scenarios you mention will happen.
Do you think Weinstein are more probable to go neutral before Universal? They haven't released anything since January, are releasing Feast next week but after that only two movies without specs are announced in May. They would not provide so many movies to Blu-ray but the message would be loud and clear
 
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PS3 does not have a dedicated scaler built in. Scaling features may be added in the future.
What's strange, and maybe I'm mistaken, but the XMB videos on the hard drive do scale accordingly.

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Old 04-10-2007, 02:58 AM   #638
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So I'm not really much of an insider to the actual Blu-ray industry but my girlfriend is a manager at Macy's and by this summer all of over 800 of Macy's stores will be using Blu-ray players for all their displays and for all their security video back up systems.
 
Old 04-10-2007, 03:09 AM   #639
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Hello paidgeek,

I read over at avsforum that Sony might release the upgraded Fifth Element sometime this summer. Would you please confirm if this is true or not and would you please share any specs or features that will be inclueded in the re-released Blu-ray movie.
 
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Hello paidgeek,

I read over at avsforum that Sony might release the upgraded Fifth Element sometime this summer. Would you please confirm if this is true or not and would you please share any specs or features that will be inclueded in the re-released Blu-ray movie.
he has confirmed this many times actually so we're all just waiting now to hear the final details on the release date and on a possible trade-in deal for those with the old copy.
 
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