Archived: Insiders Thread

[Dotpattern]

Did no one else catch this?

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA
Also, anyone know for sure who has the US video rights to Sweeny Todd -- Paramount or Warner?

[QUOTE=Penton-Man;413044]Doesn’t matter.

[JasonS]

Originally Posted by Dotpattern

Did no one else catch this?

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA
Also, anyone know for sure who has the US video rights to Sweeny Todd -- Paramount or Warner?

Penton-Man;413044]Doesn’t matter.

What are we supposed to catch? I believe he said "doesn't matter" because as I understood it: WB has the International release, and Paramount has the U.S. release meaning it will be RED. That was then downplayed because of the way the film was shot.

[monkeyhouse]

Nice catch

[QUOTE=Dotpattern;413098]Did no one else catch this?

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA
Also, anyone know for sure who has the US video rights to Sweeny Todd -- Paramount or Warner?

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Doesn’t matter.

[jkwest]

Originally Posted by JasonS

What are we supposed to catch? I believe he said "doesn't matter" because as I understood it: WB has the International release, and Paramount has the U.S. release meaning it will be RED. That was then downplayed because of the way the film was shot.

I think its very important.

Penton knows we are only interested in Blu-Ray releases here...

[OokieSpookie]

[QUOTE=monkeyhouse;413115]Nice catch

Originally Posted by Dotpattern

Did no one else catch this?

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA
Also, anyone know for sure who has the US video rights to Sweeny Todd -- Paramount or Warner?

People seriously need to stop reading so much into everything said.

[NutsAboutPS3]

I'm not sure why the mods haven't tried to restore order to this thread, but I'd like to remind people that this thread is for asking questions to the insiders, and only insiders should answer the questions, it isn't supposed to be a free for all to discuss the issues raised in people's questions. You can always start a new thread to discuss any issues raised here, and post a link to the new thread in here to direct people over to it.

[09camaro]

[QUOTE=OokieSpookie;413122]

Originally Posted by monkeyhouse

Nice catch



People seriously need to stop reading so much into everything said.

Hey Ookie, it's P-Man. You have to read more into it than might be there.

[jkwest]

[QUOTE=OokieSpookie;413122]

Originally Posted by monkeyhouse

Nice catch



People seriously need to stop reading so much into everything said.

Ookie...our insiders are walking on eggshells..they cannot say anything that has no source for fear of losing their positions...


I have a question for the insiders...

with Panasonic and Toshiba getting out of the RPTV market, are there some serious changes coming in the next 18-24 months?

[zed0118]

Since this thread has veered so far off topic ... let me see if I can hopefully try and get it back on target.

Does anyone know if the first two Alien films are going to appear on BD? I'd be keenly interested in those two. The 3rd & 4th films were utter crap, but those first two were real gems.

[corduroygt]

I read over at HDD forums there is one guy knocking the PS3 because it cannot bitstream TrueHD or DTS-HDMA. I know the PS3 cannot decode Master Audio yet but it's coming, and decoding TrueHD in the player vs. the receiver should make NO difference whatsoever, since it's all digital. Can one of the insiders comment on it, I'm especially eyeing RBFilms. The guy there says he can say a difference and I think that's just BS, up there with other home theatre myths to make you buy unnecessary junk like wooden volume knobs.

So as long as the PS3 decodes TrueHD and DTS-HDMA (in the future) and sends them as LPCM, there should be exactly no difference right? I do not really know since there are guys who claim bitstream is better from what they heard, I call BS.

[bootman]

Originally Posted by corduroygt

I read over at HDD forums there is one guy knocking the PS3 because it cannot bitstream TrueHD or DTS-HDMA. I know the PS3 cannot decode Master Audio yet but it's coming, and decoding TrueHD in the player vs. the receiver should make NO difference whatsoever, since it's all digital. Can one of the insiders comment on it, I'm especially eyeing RBFilms. The guy there says he can say a difference and I think that's just BS, up there with other home theatre myths to make you buy unnecessary junk like wooden volume knobs.

So as long as the PS3 decodes TrueHD and DTS-HDMA (in the future) and sends them as LPCM, there should be exactly no difference right? I do not really know since there are guys who claim bitstream is better from what they heard, I call BS.

This is a hardware question. These guys are more software guys.
Ask the question over in the other forums here and get responses from actual users.

PS, it is not all BS

[OokieSpookie]

Originally Posted by corduroygt

I read over at HDD forums there is one guy knocking the PS3 because it cannot bitstream TrueHD or DTS-HDMA. I know the PS3 cannot decode Master Audio yet but it's coming, and decoding TrueHD in the player vs. the receiver should make NO difference whatsoever, since it's all digital. Can one of the insiders comment on it, I'm especially eyeing RBFilms. The guy there says he can say a difference and I think that's just BS, up there with other home theatre myths to make you buy unnecessary junk like wooden volume knobs.

So as long as the PS3 decodes TrueHD and DTS-HDMA (in the future) and sends them as LPCM, there should be exactly no difference right? I do not really know since there are guys who claim bitstream is better from what they heard, I call BS.

The PS3 is a great blu ray player, but it is not the be all and end all of blu ray players.
Stand alones will come that have advantages in their own way, and the PS3 will have its advantage in its way.

[owa]

Originally Posted by corduroygt

I read over at HDD forums there is one guy knocking the PS3 because it cannot bitstream TrueHD or DTS-HDMA. I know the PS3 cannot decode Master Audio yet but it's coming, and decoding TrueHD in the player vs. the receiver should make NO difference whatsoever, since it's all digital. Can one of the insiders comment on it, I'm especially eyeing RBFilms. The guy there says he can say a difference and I think that's just BS, up there with other home theatre myths to make you buy unnecessary junk like wooden volume knobs.

So as long as the PS3 decodes TrueHD and DTS-HDMA (in the future) and sends them as LPCM, there should be exactly no difference right? I do not really know since there are guys who claim bitstream is better from what they heard, I call BS.

Hopefully the new Sony guy will chime in soon but like you said, as long as the PS3 can decode them, it shouldn't matter. I guess we'll find out sooner or later whether the PS3 can decode DTS-MA or not.

[elwaylite]

So I traveled to that other "insiders" thread today and was shocked to see the A man was still answering BD questions instead of the BD insiders. Makes me STILL glad I left.

[juanleche]

Not Suprising, From AVS:

Originally Posted by amirm

In general, the lion share of revenues comes from physical media. So you are not going to see the studios base their decisions on digital distribution strategy per-se.

Your point in general though, is an excellent one. It will cost nearly $2B to replace the DVD infrastructure with BD format. Question is, whether that money could be put to another use, if we know this technology is not forever, or that demand for it is modest.

A question to him from my alter ego hope it doesn't get me banned:

Originally Posted by coneyparleg

Is this to say that HDM is something you consider will have modest demand? And that studios should be basing their HDM support decision based based on the idea that the either format will not last long and have modest demand?

In other words is this how you would describe either format as "not forever" and "modest demand"?

Any comment on Amir's subtle hint that for MS HDM is about modest demand and not a long run endevour?

looks like true colors shining thru

I hear Paramount collectively saying DOH!

[olarmy96]

I hate to bump my own question, but it seems to have been lost in the chatter that invaded the thread today. Perhaps the insiders can't comment. Of course, there's the new super-secret Blu-ray.com handshake...

Originally Posted by olarmy96

My question for insiders is am I crazy?

My interpretation of the buy Warner BRD is that we aren't really voting, but confirming. It seems to me that there's a framework of an agreement in place where the major issues are agreed. Of course, any contract has many, many details and the lawyers take their sweet time negotiating those points. Also, until it's signed the deal could fall through.

The #1 Warner (and overall) HD disc 300 sold about 2 to 1 in favor of Blu-ray. Warner has Harry Potter coming up as a new release and a significant catalogue title in BladeRunner. In order to confirm the direction it would be very helpful for those to be similar to 300.

This makes signing a deal and the subsequent press releases much easier. Something like "We stated in the past that we wanted consumer to decide and consistently they have chosen Blu-ray disc buy about a 2:1 margin."

If, though, HP or BladeRunner were about 50/50 in sales, then the above statement wouldn't be accurate. It might make WB hesitate and continue their neutral position.

If I'm not crazy can we do the Blu-ray.com super-secret handshake?

[darinp2]

Originally Posted by olarmy96

I hate to bump my own question, but it seems to have been lost in the chatter that invaded the thread today. Perhaps the insiders can't comment. Of course, there's the new super-secret Blu-ray.com handshake...


...
The #1 Warner (and overall) HD disc 300 sold about 2 to 1 in favor of Blu-ray. Warner has Harry Potter coming up as a new release and a significant catalogue title in BladeRunner. In order to confirm the direction it would be very helpful for those to be similar to 300.

Just wanted to add something here. While 2:1 would be useful for HP, it seems that Warner has stacked the deck. 300 got Pip and a combo disc on HD DVD, but they had a $5 higher MSRP. For Harry Potter they again gave the HD DVD PiP (but some extras got high definition on the BD) and spent the extra money to do combo discs, but this time didn't put any higher MSRP. So, people should could this in mind and that it is likely to take even more to get close to 2:1 for Blu-ray than 300. Anything above 1.5:1 should be considered a victory for Blu-ray on that title because of the way Warner stacked the deck with it, IMO. The Blade Runner releases seem to be more even between the formats. I think that is a title where it is important to get the word out to PS3 owners to support it.

--Darin

[blix01]

Originally Posted by eat_me_cool

Can you people STOP posting FUD in this thread. FFS.

Ha. that question has been posted a dozen times to the insiders in this thread. The thread, mind you, that is meant for asking insiders question and which is intended for insiders to give responses. pages and pages later, a lot of non-insiders have commented on the question and denied the rumor. However, not a single insider has.
So, nobody is 'posting FUD'. Asking for insider comment is using this thread as intended.

[eat_me_cool]

Originally Posted by blix01

Ha. that question has been posted a dozen times to the insiders in this thread. The thread, mind you, that is meant for asking insiders question and which is intended for insiders to give responses. pages and pages later, a lot of non-insiders have commented on the question and denied the rumor. However, not a single insider has.
So, nobody is 'posting FUD'. Asking for insider comment is using this thread as intended.

You think that asking Insiders these same questions every day, is not FUD?

Are Sony going HD-DVD?
Are Fox going HD-DVD?
Are Disney going HD-DVD?

10minutes later..

Are Sony going HD-DVD?
Are Fox going HD-DVD?
Are Disney going HD-DVD?


10minutes later..

Are Sony going HD-DVD?
Are Fox going HD-DVD?
Are Disney going HD-DVD?

10minutes later..

Are Sony going HD-DVD?
Are Fox going HD-DVD?
Are Disney going HD-DVD?


Why on earth should insiders respond to comments lifted from random red-ant sites? I think mods should be quicker in deleting this c*** and the posters banned, asap.

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by TheSnowman

It doesn't require an insider comment. It's not worth the time of day.

The HDNow guy AKA rdjam who sent out the FUD emails was posting at HDD forums. It started off to allegedly happen in the next couple of days. Then he changed his story to it happening in 3 weeks. Then he started dribbling about a $500 million payoff. Not to mention the alleged studio is MGM which is partly owned by Sony. WTF? Where the hell did he get this info? Nowhere, it's made up FUD. Don't you think if it was true someone more credible would have reported it by now. And I don't believe any Blu-ray exclusive studio is a sell-out like Paramount.

They're trying to start there own rumor to divert attention from the Warner rumor and Nielson numbers, the funny thing is, it didn't get very far. No news sites have picked it up. These guys have zero credibility. It's pure FUD, simple as that.

Let's not talk about it. That's what they want. Just let the BS fade away.

Thank you. No news sites have reported on this because they wouldn't touch it. Even the other "questionable" news sites haven't said anything. I think that is what he wants, but no one is biting. I say let it drop.