"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[Oliver K]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

I hope they recorded this for the Blu-ray, I love live score presentations.

Bugs Bunny on Broadway, if you can ever experience it, do so

I read about it and it definitely seems like an acquired taste to me, but whatever brings people to enjoy classical music is fine I guess...

[androvsky]

I'm really looking forward to seeing the full Metropolis, however, I feel like I missed the framerate discussion. Is there likely to be an attempt to play with duplicate frames to get it down to ~16 fps on a 24 fps output, or is it just going to play too fast like usual?

[Oliver K]

Originally Posted by androvsky

I'm really looking forward to seeing the full Metropolis, however, I feel like I missed the framerate discussion. Is there likely to be an attempt to play with duplicate frames to get it down to ~16 fps on a 24 fps output, or is it just going to play too fast like usual?

From what I have heard it seems that the Blu-Ray will have 24fps, at the Berlinale I think it might even have played at 25fps to be in sync with the simultaneous airing on television.

At the screening it indeed seemed that sometimes the movie was played back too fast but I doubt that this will lead to interpolated frames in order to make this run with a more natural speed but then you never know what happens next with Metropolis

[androvsky]

Originally Posted by Oliver K

From what I have heard it seems that the Blu-Ray will have 24fps, at the Berlinale I think it might even have played at 25fps to be in sync with the simultaneous airing on television.

At the screening it indeed seemed that sometimes the movie was played back too fast but I doubt that this will lead to interpolated frames in order to make this run with a more natural speed but then you never know what happens next with Metropolis

Thanks. As I look into it more, 24fps is probably about as close to the "correct" framerate as we're likely to get. That's what I get for listening to Wikipedia...

[Jeff Kleist]

I read about it and it definitely seems like an acquired taste to me, but whatever brings people to enjoy classical music is fine I guess...

Bugs Bunny cartoons in 35mm with a live score is an acquired taste? Besides, back in the silent days it was ALWAYS a live score Usually some guy at a piano

[4K2K]

From what I have heard it seems that the Blu-Ray will have 24fps, at the Berlinale I think it might even have played at 25fps to be in sync with the simultaneous airing on television.

At the screening it indeed seemed that sometimes the movie was played back too fast but I doubt that this will lead to interpolated frames in order to make this run with a more natural speed but then you never know what happens next with Metropolis

Maybe they should encode it at 3 different frame rates (eg. 20, 24, 25) and let you choose.

Is that something that BD-J could do - control the frame rate of video?

[Jeff Kleist]

No. BD-J is not capable of doing it

[Kris Deering]

Plus you have to take into account what framerates the Blu-ray spec supports, and what framerates your TV supports.

[Jeff Kleist]

That's true, Blu-ray does not support 48fps. That's why it has to be sent to the TV as 2 seperate signals, either as 1080i/60 or 1080p24 x 2. The latter is not something supported without HDMI 1.4

[JimSD]

Penton-Man,

Here's a link to an article by the director of Race Across The Sky that mentions how they captured it, the cameras, etc. He says he's a 3-time finisher of the race too. Hopefully the upcoming Blu-ray isn't priced too sky high.

http://www.slapyblog.com/Home/Awesom...TRAIL-100.aspx

[Oliver K]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Bugs Bunny cartoons in 35mm with a live score is an acquired taste? Besides, back in the silent days it was ALWAYS a live score Usually some guy at a piano

Well, I would be surprised if that kind of music was intended to play along with the cartoons. I would be perfectly happy with only the guy at the piano as I find it more fitting for watching a Bugs Bunny cartoon

[Bobby Henderson]

Today, February 19, 2010, is the 20th birthday of Adobe Photoshop.

Professional graphic artists, photographers, illustrators and creative workers of other fields will often make different choices on the hardware and software used to get the job done. For instance, I remember all the Freehand versus Illustrator versus CorelDRAW debates. That wasn't the case with Photoshop. Look on any creative worker's computer system and you're bound to find Photoshop installed.

After 20 years Photoshop still has no formidable rivals. Other image editing applications have either failed trying to beat Photoshop and disappeared (remember Live Picture?) or simply found a niche where they could survive.

Even if you're using Painter, Paint Shop Pro, Corel PhotoPaint, The Gimp, etc. a casual observer may say, "can you Photoshop some more color into that?" Non-designers aren't familiar with the names of the various computer applications used to create digital graphics. But most people know of Adobe Photoshop.

[4K2K]

Originally Posted by 4k2k

Maybe they should encode it at 3 different frame rates (eg. 20, 24, 25) and let you choose....

Plus you have to take into account what framerates the Blu-ray spec supports, and what framerates your TV supports.

Though the Blu-ray format supports 24p and all European players and TVs support 25 (ie. encoded as 1080/50i or 720p50), and it's part of the Blu-ray specs (even though not all USA players/Tvs support it).

Also, 20 fps content could be encoded as 720p60 easily (or 1080/60i?). 20 fps encoded at 720p60 would repeat each frame 3 times.

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

That's true, Blu-ray does not support 48fps. That's why it has to be sent to the TV as 2 seperate signals, either as 1080i/60 or 1080p24 x 2. The latter is not something supported without HDMI 1.4

I thought the HDMI 1.3 spec allowed vendor specific resolutions and frame rates. So for rates not in the normal HDMI spec, if they were supported by the player and display should still work.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

Today, February 19, 2010, is the 20th birthday of Adobe Photoshop.

Created by brothers John & Thomas Knoll, John in particular looking for digital tools for his employer: Industrial Light & Magic!

[Icemage]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

Review of Metropolis:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...l-1898143.html

Wait, what? I thought the original master reels of Metropolis had been lost? My first encounter with Metropolis was (oddly enough) was the small clips of footage used in the music video for Radio Ga-Ga by Queen, and I recall there being much lamentation that the original film was lost.

EDIT: Ahah! Your link explains it. (for those who can't jump to the link, apparently a damaged but original cut of the original version of Metropolis was found a couple of years ago ).

[Oliver K]

Originally Posted by Icemage

EDIT: Ahah! Your link explains it. (for those who can't jump to the link, apparently a damaged but original cut of the original version of Metropolis was found a couple of years ago ).

To be a bit more specific: The added footage is from a 16mm protection element that had been created from a 35mm nitrate print in the 70ies in Argentina.

[horseflesh]

Penton, I might as well ask before anyone else; does the Sony/Weinstein deal mean we're any more likely to see the extended version of Grindhouse on BD?
(and the Whole Bloody Affair version of Kill Bill, or do Disney "own" that??)

[mark antony]

Originally Posted by Oliver K

To be a bit more specific: The added footage is from a 16mm protection element that had been created from a 35mm nitrate print in the 70ies in Argentina.

What I don't understand is that given that this footage has been "lost" for 80 years, if this element was made in the 70's - why did nobody say anything then?!

M

[mark antony]

Penton another Weinstein question, but not when is so and so coming out...Weinstein released two of the most disappointing and "could have been great" dvd's i've ever seen, namely the Bronston epic's Fall OT Roman Empire and El Cid. Does the deal include these titles?

Thanks for your time, hope your enjoying the snow!

M

[Jeff Kleist]

This isn't giving Sony control over their catalog, or even a Fox/MGM relationship. This is a "keep your discs in our warehouse and ship them for you" style deal. While Sony may choose to get involved with a title for additional pie, this isn't a "give us your catalog and we'll distribute it like our own" thing.