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[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Or in it, for that matter. No need to clutter the outside with info that won't impact anyone's purchase decision. Win/win!

True, a metadata system would be convinient, especially since HDMI wouldn't have any issue at all with this. But I think that is shooting too high for the consumer electronics industry and movie studios in general.

[Dennis M]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

If we are truly suppose to see what the "director intended", we need to know what the mastering monitor and encode were set up for. It would take up a miniscule amount of space on the disc or packaging, but would go a long way for the true videphile.

I'm in Kris' camp with this one.

It would be outstanding if the studios could supply this type of information.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

But I think that is shooting too high for the consumer electronics industry and movie studios in general.

Standardized communication methodologies? Sadly, I share your skepticism.

[PaulGo]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I haven’t keep up with the most current *scientists* except for reading a couple of links from a thread on an outside forum which were passed onto me a couple weeks or so ago via PM. It seems that the poster (a technician who actually works in the mastering or encoding/authoring business) took them to task because he had reached his limit of frustration with their nonsense.

I’ll post his comments when I’ve got time to search my inbox again.
Classic stuff.
Could qualify for post(s) of the year.

I wonder if any of the "scientists" have the time to actually watch and enjoy the movie. It seems they are too busy trying to find flaws.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

I wonder if any of the "scientists" have the time to actually watch and enjoy the movie. It seems they are too busy trying to find flaws.

I thought they did not watch movies because they get vertigo when they watch moving pictures.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Standardized communication methodologies? Sadly, I share your skepticism.

I hesitate bringing this up because it gets very complicated, very quickly………kinda like white point color shifts between different displays, which is where I feared member cjamescook was venturing to with his question about LCD displays backlit with LEDs several pages ago . But just so you know, in regards to standardization, people are working on something further upstream in the process which I think is more important and needed for all in the industry with implications that translate all the way down the line to HD masters for Blu-rays.

I’m referring to IIL which is hoped to be a universal media interchange format acting as a digital replacement file for the 35mm film source to provide a known quantity or *standard* if you will, for exchanging and tweaking images up to 4k resolution and 16 bit pixel depth. Digtial camera images could transform straight into the architecture. You see, the problem now is that there is some confusion and technical translation failures encountered when sending material between different post facilities to work on.

With a universal media interchange format like IIL, it would eliminate or at least reduce those missteps by unifying all the current diverse practices under a consistent set of transforms and methodologies which would ultimately, at the end of the process, produce a single graded digital master having a dynamic range of 1,000,000:1 and from which you could produce properly corrected versions of whatever release format, whether it be release film prints, Digital Cinema or HD deliverables -essentially standardizing further compressions for their respective limited latitudes and differing gamma/contrast/saturation/luminance requirements.
Click on IIF License Terms here…….
http://www.stcatp.org/

With regards to *standardization* in the consumer electronics industry/movie studio realm, I think the guys and gals have done good work in establishing the 3D spec for Blu-ray, also taking into consideration backward compatibility, with paidgeek being one of the point men on the project.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Thanks Penton!

On that note, I must say that I wish studios would adopt something of a disclaimer along these lines similar to Criterion. I noticed on the BD of Benjamin Button that it listed exactly what color space the disc was encoded in (REC 709) and what type of master was used. Personally I would like to know the color space and reference gamma since many projection systems will allow you to force whatever you want. If we are truly suppose to see what the "director intended", we need to know what the mastering monitor and encode were set up for. It would take up a miniscule amount of space on the disc or packaging, but would go a long way for the true videphile.

I hear ya and I appreciate your concern.

I think that many folks, not just in the SPHE organization per se, but from all of the majors would argue the type of esoteric information you desire would only be of true (appreciated) benefit to a tiny percentage of Blu-ray movie watchers and that the time/effort involved to make it happen wouldn’t be worth it, esp. if it involves diverting people/resources from doing other things.

Quite frankly, there is so much to do and so little time to do it, esp. with some studios loosing personnel this year.
Nevertheless, your request is noted as it’s an excellent goal to aspire to.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I thought they did not watch movies because they get vertigo when they watch moving pictures.

Now, be kind.

In the spirit of always looking out for fellow ‘enthusiasts’ health and well-being, I think you should warn them right now that they had better not post any adjacent screenshots from Public Enemies when Dante Spinotti shot shutter fully open on the F23 which show motion blur with an alternating screenshot of a super-sharp image captured by those outstanding Zeiss lenses or else, they risk getting vertigo staring at their computers too.
Heck, that side-to-side *comparison* may even induce an epileptic dnr seizure in some of them.

[4K2K]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

With regards to *standardization* in the consumer electronics industry/movie studio realm, I think the guys and gals have done good work in establishing the 3D spec for Blu-ray, also taking into consideration backward compatibility, with paidgeek being one of the point men on the project.

Has the standard been set now, or is it not yet complete, and is there any details of the latest spec anywhere online? Has the backwards compatibility requirement restricted what could be added to the spec? Does the spec have an official name or profile now?

[mark antony]

Penton, just have to say i f***ing hate pikey's, but i love the blu ray of snatch! If anyone hasn;t seen this, it is probably one of the best british film's of the 00's, if not generally. Featuring one of the greatest villain's since Vader it just keep's getting funnier and well worth a viewing!

M

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by mark antony

Penton, just have to say i f***ing hate pikey's, but i love the blu ray of snatch! If anyone hasn;t seen this, it is probably one of the best british film's of the 00's, if not generally. Featuring one of the greatest villain's since Vader it just keep's getting funnier and well worth a viewing!

M

I can't wait for my copy of Snatch to come with Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels! I love me some Guy Ritchie films!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by 4K2K

Has the standard been set now, or is it not yet complete, and is there any details of the latest spec anywhere online? Has the backwards compatibility requirement restricted what could be added to the spec? Does the spec have an official name or profile now?

Best to ping our resident Insider kjack as he loves to talk about Blu-ray and 3D, plus I don’t think many here appreciate or take advantage of his presence.

So, that’s a good lead-in to at least start a mini-discussion with him on the topic.

[juanell]

As far as i know i am the only 1 that guessed a Dec.22nd release for district 9. Was there a prize in that contest?

[Jeff Kleist]

Has the standard been set now, or is it not yet complete, and is there any details of the latest spec anywhere online? Has the backwards compatibility requirement restricted what could be added to the spec? Does the spec have an official name or profile now?

What I've been told recently is very flexible and forward (as well as backward) thinking

There won't be anything public until it's in stone and finalized

If you don't have a Samsung or Mits 3D-ready DLP, you're definately going to need a new one for 3D however. There's simply no way to sync the glasses otherwise.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by juanell

As far as i know i am the only 1 that guessed a Dec.22nd release for district 9. Was there a prize in that contest?

In order to move it up, this surely signals they must FINALLY have BD50 production up and running...

-Esox

[sharkshark]

Scorsese and inteview with Grover Crisp:

http://revision3.com/hdnation/blucon...r-home-theater

[aygie]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

Scorsese and inteview with Grover Crisp:

http://revision3.com/hdnation/blucon...r-home-theater

Better link https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3709

[sharkshark]

Even better link...


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=11292

I JUST BLEW YOUR MIND!

[aygie]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

Even better link...


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=11292

I JUST BLEW YOUR MIND!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

Scorsese and inteview with Grover Crisp:

http://revision3.com/hdnation/blucon...r-home-theater

Good combo.
Marty can be very emotional and Grover is always very calm.
Do you think this set would sell in the Blu-ray format?
http://www.film-foundation.org/commo...on=&ThisPage=0

In other words, is the timing now right, or do you think 99% of the installed Blu-ray users still are only interested in watching sci-fi, superhero and mystic titles?
Did anyone at all on this forum watch this flick on Blu-ray?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ar#post2486891