"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by jdc115

I do not know why it couldn't? MP3 was a big step backwards for music but were used due to storage and bandwidth back in the day but that is not longer an issue and the choice of what quality you want is often to the consumer. The US is large so getting the needed bandwidth everywhere is often an issue but that will not always be the case.

I sometimes buy SACDs and sometimes will buy 24bit/96 or 192khz FLAC files for music.

I would be happy if I had the choice to buy a Blu-ray or a 50GB digital copy equivalent of a Blu-ray that can be downloaded and I do not see why that wouldn't be done in the future. Blu-ray, high quality downloads and lower quality streaming can all co-exist.

Maybe it is hard to imagine downloading 25 to 50 GB for you?

The download would not be a problem. I just cannot see them offering that big a download and such high quality.. I sure hope they will, just do not see it. Like your set up by the way.

[jdc115]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The download would not be a problem. I just cannot see them offering that big a download and such high quality.. I sure hope they will, just do not see it. Like your set up by the way.

Thanks..

I am hopefull and believe we will see a day where we will see digital downloads available for that are basically the equal to a BD ISO

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by jdc115

Thanks..

I am hopefull and believe we will see a day where we will see digital downloads available for that are basically the equal to a BD ISO

fair enough

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Keyboard warrior in my opinion.

C’mon Stee, that is an unfair comment to Rick. What some members have a problem with are your constant fears being expressed over and over and over again, and trying to keep your personal Blu-ray vs. digital delivery mission *debate* alive and fresh by using different argumentative vehicles, when despite what they say in response to your query….your mind will never really be changed.

You’ll thank someone for replying to you with their opinion and add a little flattery to encourage further debate on the issue in an attempt (some would say insincere) to show how ‘open-minded’ you are….all the while, long-term readers of this forum believe your feelings on this topic are truly quite entrenched and irreversible. That’s the crux of the matter.

Let me give you a little reality check. You can’t ‘change’ anything. You can’t successfully recruit followers on Blu-ray.com to join in a mission to change or delay a new industry business model…you simply don’t have the power. All the movie studios feel that Blu-ray just has not been able to replace the decline in home entertainment revenue over the years, so, there will be a big push to more aggressively explore digital delivery in the future. You’re going to see news article after news article announcing how a studio will tap into this potential revenue source by making (or at least trying to make) digital movie consumption less complex to consumers….even probably bringing Facebook into the picture, eventually.

So, get used to it.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Watcher

Sony refusing to pay for 3D glasses starting next year:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...glasses-240837

They no like…………..http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...on-stop-241613

I wonder how they are going to feel when they find out, even if they have the latest generation DLP projector, that despite Jim C. claiming at the conference I attended last week, all that will be needed is a “ firmware upgrade to the projector” to exhibit the next Avatar movie at a higher frame rate like 60fps,

that, in reality, they will actually have to get another server, or more likely an Internal Media Block to output these higher frame rates.

[sharkshark]

How are those Oakeley's? I'd love it if there was standardization, so I could wear my own pair to RealD, IMAX, home projection, etc.

Originally Posted by Paul H

IMO, it would be about time people should now be able to bring their own 3D glasses from prior movies and stop paying an additional price for the option. The recycling in the theater lobby-bin can stop, while having the option to buy a 3D pair @ the door if needed.

Been bringing my "Oakley 3D Gascan" glasses to every 3D movie and bringing home the theater-pair sealed in its plastic.
Must have at least 20 pair saved by now, intending to use them for guests when I eventually get a realD 3D projector for my Home-theater in the not-so-distant future.

My son always brings his own special 2D pair (same lens for each eye) when he goes to a 3D feature (trying to have quality time with the family) for a depth problem he has to deal with.

Paul

[sharkshark]

Heck, these are the people that thought they played a role in determining the victor in the HD disc war!

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

C’mon Stee, that is an unfair comment to Rick. What some members have a problem with are your constant fears being expressed over and over and over again, and trying to keep your personal Blu-ray vs. digital delivery mission *debate* alive and fresh by using different argumentative vehicles, when despite what they say in response to your query….your mind will never really be changed.

You’ll thank someone for replying to you with their opinion and add a little flattery to encourage further debate on the issue in an attempt (some would say insincere) to show how ‘open-minded’ you are….all the while, long-term readers of this forum believe your feelings on this topic are truly quite entrenched and irreversible. That’s the crux of the matter.

Let me give you a little reality check. You can’t ‘change’ anything. You can’t successfully recruit followers on Blu-ray.com to join in a mission to change or delay a new industry business model…you simply don’t have the power. All the movie studios feel that Blu-ray just has not been able to replace the decline in home entertainment revenue over the years, so, there will be a big push to more aggressively explore digital delivery in the future. You’re going to see news article after news article announcing how a studio will tap into this potential revenue source by making (or at least trying to make) digital movie consumption less complex to consumers….even probably bringing Facebook into the picture, eventually.

So, get used to it.

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

How are those Oakeley's? I'd love it if there was standardization, so I could wear my own pair to RealD, IMAX, home projection, etc.

If only! The Oakeley's are comfortable and give a better 3D experience. i.e. Good-quality lenses that curve to my field of vision. Definitely less ghosting with optically correct lenses that allow razor sharp vision. No noticeable side glare.
My kids like the style.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Usual suspects = 99.9% of the forum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concern...#Concern_troll
Just sayin'

Keyboard warrior
Just sayin'

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Keyboard warrior
Just sayin'

*laughs*
The funny thing about your statement about me vs. my statement about you is: you might be right, but I definitely am.
But keep tryin'
Just sayin'

[Doctorossi]

Call me an out-of-touch old fart, but I don't even know what "keyboard warrior" is supposed to mean.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Call me an out-of-touch old fart, but I don't even know what "keyboard warrior" is supposed to mean.

I had an idea, but I had to look it up!
Techincally, aren't we all, to some extent, keyboard warriors? More importantly, what happens when keyboards go obsolete? What will be the new saying? Ya know, I think I'm going to worry about that from here on out!

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I had an idea, but I had to look it up!
Techincally, aren't we all, to some extent, keyboard warriors? More importantly, what happens when keyboards go obsolete? What will be the new saying? Ya know, I think I'm going to worry about that from here on out!

keyboards obsolete? as likely as physical media. Don't get me wrong they uld be completely different from what they are now. But what else is there for making posts, writing? most young people today can't do it, voice? there is an other joke. If anything keyboards are more prevalent today then they ever were.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

keyboards obsolete? as likely as physical media. Don't get me wrong they uld be completely different from what they are now. But what else is there for making posts, writing? most young people today can't do it, voice? there is an other joke. If anything keyboards are more prevalent today then they ever were.

Oh no, I read somewhere that keyboards are going obsolete! I find this very troubling as I have a large collection of keyboards and don't want to see them go to waste. I heard some new type of key-streaming will take over.

[Icemage]

I'm not going to get into the whole debate here, but it seems to me that if someone wants to go crusading for a cause, this is not the thread for it. If you want a soapbox to sound off on, get yourself a blog and kindly leave the Insider Discussion threads alone.

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Back on topic (sort of):

Penton-Man, any thoughts on what sort of tech we'll be seeing pushed in home displays (OLED, 3D, 2K resolution, something else?) in the near future (i.e. 2 years or so)? I know Sony's been pushing 3D pretty hard the last couple of years, but the box office returns on 3D seem pretty disappointing, and home consumers seem equally indifferent.

Even 1080p seems to be a harder sell than expected; I took a brief glance around to a recent visit to my local Best Buy and saw a LOT of 720p models. This didn't surprise me so much as it disappointed me. 3D was barely even visible at all, and I had to really look to find the OLED units.

Has there been some sort of fundamental shift in philosophy from the consumer display manufacturers about new features potentially scaring off buyers or something? It seems to me like all of the fantastic tech that the early adopters have been using for the past several years since Blu-ray was introduced has sort of faded into the background. Or is my experience merely anecdotal?

(In the interests of fair disclosure, I have a 1080 3DTV so I'm not just throwing peanuts at the tech from the peanut gallery)

[4K2K]

From this link:

http://hometheaterreview.com/cedia-2011-show-report/

there is a rumor swirling around CEDIA, mainly the Sony booth, that Sony is working on a new compression standard to fit 4K content onto Blu-ray discs. If this is true (and if it can be done), then 4K may be closer to becoming reality than any of us, present company included, ever thought.

Is this true, and are they looking at using discs with capacities higher than 50GB for the new format(s) - or sticking to current 25/50GB discs?

Approx how long before we might see players for this? Also, with broadcasts next year of SHV (3.75x 4K) at 60 fps (though not to consumer displays) and SHV at 120 fps in around 2020 - in Japan at least, and the new Hobbit/Avatar film specs, will these be compatible with the new formats? Will it use a new HDMI standard or use something other than HDMI?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Icemage

I'm not going to get into the whole debate here, but it seems to me that if someone wants to go crusading for a cause, this is not the thread for it. If you want a soapbox to sound off on, get yourself a blog and kindly leave the Insider Discussion threads alone.

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Back on topic (sort of):

Penton-Man, any thoughts on what sort of tech we'll be seeing pushed in home displays (OLED, 3D, 2K resolution, something else?) in the near future (i.e. 2 years or so)? I know Sony's been pushing 3D pretty hard the last couple of years, but the box office returns on 3D seem pretty disappointing, and home consumers seem equally indifferent.

Even 1080p seems to be a harder sell than expected; I took a brief glance around to a recent visit to my local Best Buy and saw a LOT of 720p models. This didn't surprise me so much as it disappointed me. 3D was barely even visible at all, and I had to really look to find the OLED units.

Has there been some sort of fundamental shift in philosophy from the consumer display manufacturers about new features potentially scaring off buyers or something? It seems to me like all of the fantastic tech that the early adopters have been using for the past several years since Blu-ray was introduced has sort of faded into the background. Or is my experience merely anecdotal?

(In the interests of fair disclosure, I have a 1080 3DTV so I'm not just throwing peanuts at the tech from the peanut gallery)

I have noticed the opposite in Uk. Far more full Hd models. Some of the smaller sizes and budget models were 720p mind you.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Icemage

Penton-Man, any thoughts on what sort of tech we'll be seeing pushed in home displays (OLED, 3D, 2K resolution, something else?) in the near future (i.e. 2 years or so)? I know Sony's been pushing 3D pretty hard the last couple of years...

Hi Ice - Further refinement/flexibility of connected televisions (internet TV).

No timetable but, on the roadmap – pursuit of glasses-free 3D TV vis-a-vie three approaches: 4k LCD panels, 2k LCD panels and comparatively smaller 2k OLED panels. I’m not at liberty to make any specific forward-looking pronouncements about 4k in and of itself.

Reminds me. Attention PeterTHX – this is mostly about 2D, the registration fee is very reasonable, it’s on a Saturday and there’s a speaker from THX, so it should meet all your criteria for something doable and worthwhile. Act fast as you’ve only got one day left to sign up.

Be there or be square…. http://www.hpaonline.com/mc/page.do?sitePageId=129261

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by 4K2K

Is this true, and are they looking at using discs with capacities higher than 50GB for the new format(s) - or sticking to current 25/50GB discs?

Sorry 4k2k, no comment other than to reiterate that the industry has been fairly recently discussing larger capacity discs even for HD resolution movies, as I mentioned here…https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-te...ml#post5047190

[Penton-Man]

Rick - Have you seen Moneyball yet?