"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

The iTunes bitrate went up quite a bit and there's lots of talk that it shortly may do so again.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

So 10 years for barely noticeable improvement? Doctorossi, there is always talk. They have been talking about a HD Apple tv for four or five years now. Technology is going backwards in technical terms. convenience, yes, quality, no.

Contrary to opinion most technology doesn't depend on Apple despite their monopolistic attempts to control the streaming media market.

[Doctorossi]

How'd I know I couldn't use an Apple example without prompting a derisive O/T comment from Peter?


Here's the bottom line:

Do you have a better picture at home today than you did 10 years ago?

Yes.

Did you have a better picture at home 10 years ago than you did 10 years before that?

Yes.

So, pick up on the pattern already.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

How'd I know I couldn't use an Apple example without prompting a derisive O/T comment from Peter?

Off topic? Apple's trying to push video performance inferior to "bag of hurt" Blu-ray.

Do you have a better picture at home today than you did 10 years ago?

Yes.

Did you have a better picture at home 10 years ago than you did 10 years before that?

Yes.

So, pick up on the pattern already.

Do you have better audio (I'm not talking home theater audio) than 10 years ago?

No.

Will you have better picture at home 10 years from now with AppleTV video streaming than Blu-ray or Blu-ray 4K?

No.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Off topic? Apple's trying to push video performance inferior to "bag of hurt" Blu-ray.

Right. Off-topic.

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

(I'm not talking home theater audio)

And neither was anyone who was speaking to the topic.

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Will you have better picture at home 10 years from now with AppleTV video streaming than Blu-ray or Blu-ray 4K?

No.

1. Says who?

2. So what?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

4k broadband is probably beyond most of our lifetimes....

You are too easily discounting the significance of advanced codecs and superior computer processors in the future. I believe it will take about 7-8 years to accomplish but you’ll start to see changes in about 2-3 years. I think this is a realistic, rather than a bold prediction.

The 4k revolution is just now beginning. 4k Blu-ray will be one component of that 4k revolution and, as I said, as the physical media home deliverable, it will offer the best quality.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

My take on DRIVE from TIFF11
http://filmfest.ca/2011/09/10/drive/

'Grade A-'.

People should get you on the list for press screenings outside of the Toronto International Film Festival too.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Right. Off-topic.

On topic. We'll never get to see REAL high performance 4K in the home if Apple gets its monopoly on home entertainment and kills Blu-ray and any hard copy media, which is what it wants.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

On topic. We'll never get to see REAL high performance 4K in the home if Apple gets its monopoly on home entertainment and kills Blu-ray and any hard copy media, which is what it wants.

Right, 'cause we're all still using Apple IIs.

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Contrary to my musings about egocentric ‘Blu-ray reviewers’ on the last page, you sir, on the other hand, I find to be one of the most unassuming reviewers out there. Certainly not one to imply that Blu-ray movies are, or were ever meant to be, some sort of archival quality protection element (master) of a motion picture. As of yet, I’ve not heard of any Blu-ray National Film Registry in Washington, D.C. or Hollywood for that matter. Laser discs, DVDs, Blu-rays and even 4k Blu-rays are, and will forever be, home *incarnations* of what’s in dee vaults…or salt/limestone mines as the case may be but, at the same time, it’s good to see fine work acknowledged.

Hey, speaking of other camera manufacturers and their users, if you have the opportunity, please tell Stacey to grab his Red with that long lens, stop with the lighthouses and get some unique Snowy stuff for us animal lovers…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#46228719

Thanks for the compliment Penton, though I am no longer doing Blu-ray reviews. Other than commenting on titles for hardware reviews, you won't be seeing me on the Blu-ray review marquee for sometime I imagine. But I'm still consuming them at a voracious rate!

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Right, 'cause we're all still using Apple IIs.

AppleTV might as well be one, being 720p...

[Blu-Ray Watcher]

Originally Posted by RiseDarthVader

Also I scored some tickets to "The Amazing Spider-man" preview in Sydney at the cinema I used to work at. Woot!

Same, but for the New York one.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Watcher

Same, but for the New York one.

Taking the train up there?

And lest us not forget an early reveal …and look (of one of the stars) for the 007 fans out there….http://ow.ly/i/rfhQ/original

For one thing, I think this pic is a testament to how Super 35MM-sized sensor digital motion picture cameras (like the Alexa) enable the cinematographer to more easily achieve a shallow depth of field in contrast to those cameras with 2/3" sensors.

[Penton-Man]

Re: Apple
All she knows is - “that is the Apple store logo and it has a bite of an apple in it”…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=N4t3-__3MA0

which, I think, is quite a lot for a 5-year-old.

[rickah88]

I've just figured out how to future-proof ALL of my technological purchases:

I'm always going to wait for the "next big thing". Problem solved!

Tech doomsayers =

[Blu-Ray Watcher]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Taking the train up there?

Road trip.

[Penton-Man]

Well, be careful out there.

Not suggesting any personal experience per se, as I always attempt to follow all traffic laws (especially those regarding exceeding the posted speed limits)…. in spite of any *exuberance* I may have in getting from Location A to Location B but, just in case things ‘go bad’ on the drive up...my *friend* tells me that websites like these come in mighty handy as a viable option to spending all day long in Traffic School in order to erase any newly accumulated points from one’s record - http://www.gototrafficschool.com/Cou....aspx?rgn=2041

Rules and regs vary from state to state…and even county to county – not that I would know from personal experience, mind you.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

drive

Reminds me.

For Drive fans, and even cinema or filmmaking fans in general, head’s up as there are a lot of ‘thru the eyes and from the mind of the Director’ tidbits in this interview - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...on#post5761367

which are not necessarily included in the Entretien Avec Nicolas Winding Refn supplement on the Blu-ray – https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Drive.../29818/#Review

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You are too easily discounting the significance of advanced codecs and superior computer processors in the future. I believe it will take about 7-8 years to accomplish but you’ll start to see changes in about 2-3 years. I think this is a realistic, rather than a bold prediction.

The 4k revolution is just now beginning. 4k Blu-ray will be one component of that 4k revolution and, as I said, as the physical media home deliverable, it will offer the best quality.

Well my next tv will certainly be a 4k one (as big as possible.) Maybe two years from now if i am lucky. Partnered with a PS4 (i know you cannot comment) but i believe the new console will tie in with the release of the HEVC and that 2013 is a perfectly reasonable release date. I certainly do not want tablet control though. I love the current controllers. Hopefull OLED and 4k/full 3d will be the perfect balance for quality fans. Having said that, i will only buy new releases on 4k bluray.

[sharkshark]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Reminds me.

For Drive fans, and even cinema or filmmaking fans in general, head’s up as there are a lot of ‘thru the eyes and from the mind of the Director’ tidbits in this interview - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...on#post5761367

which are not necessarily included in the Entretien Avec Nicolas Winding Refn supplement on the Blu-ray – https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Drive.../29818/#Review

Thanks P for the link, I finally took a chance to listen - what a great interview. I had NO idea his dad (Anders Refn) cut BREAKING THE WAVES, insane!

I met him at the premiere, we had a nice little chat, but this was a really well done interview, not surprising given usual quality of KCRW.

[Penton-Man]