Archived: Ask the Insiders: Judgment Day Edition

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Steverhcp02

You dont seem to worried about xboxboi and his goober friends' perfect storm (WB red, Disney neutral, NL LOTR 51's) scenario at all.

Just total bullshit is what it is. Dont these people spend time with their families?

[Intamin]

Originally Posted by g.k.

He and "xboxboi" seem to have taken a shine to a guy calling himself "Lotus" on avrevforum.com who is claiming to be a studio insider. "Lotus" is claiming the following will happen at CES:

New Line going red, and LOTR announced as TL51 titles.
Disney's BD contract (for free BD50s) is up on January 1st, and that they are going neutral.
Warner going red or staying neutral (definitely not Blu, according to him).

Sample post from Lotus 4 posts down on this page:
http://www.avrevforum.com/showthread.php?t=980&page=39

(This same guy claimed 200k sold for Bourne Ultimatum, which seems ludicrous)

This stuff reminds me of when I would frequent roller coaster forums, and as a goof, people would say that the Lemon Chill vendor said that so and so park was putting in a 500ft 200mph ride. Basically, what's posted above has the same credibility imo. Merry Christmas to the insiders and everyone else!

[g.k.]

Originally Posted by Intamin

This stuff reminds me of when I would frequent roller coaster forums, and as a goof, people would say that the Lemon Chill vendor said that so and so park was putting in a 500ft 200mph ride. Basically, what's posted above has the same credibility imo. Merry Christmas to the insiders and everyone else!

Hence your "Intamin" name. However I think that insider was the Dippin' Dots guy. (I followed rec.roller-coaster off and on for years)

[Intamin]

Originally Posted by g.k.

Hence your "Intamin" name. However I think that insider was the Dippin' Dots guy. (I followed rec.roller-coaster off and on for years)

Haha, ours was always the Lemon Chill guy, but hell, I know that Dippin' Dots guy is a pretty damn good insider too (btw, I was an admin/mod/editor for thrillnetwork.com at one point)

PS: Since this is the insiders thread, any idea on when we'll get some numbers as far as ps3's sold this 4th quarter and on standalones?

[mykevermin]

Originally Posted by g.k.

He and "xboxboi" seem to have taken a shine to a guy calling himself "Lotus" on avrevforum.com who is claiming to be a studio insider. "Lotus" is claiming the following will happen at CES:

New Line going red, and LOTR announced as TL51 titles.
Disney's BD contract (for free BD50s) is up on January 1st, and that they are going neutral.
Warner going red or staying neutral (definitely not Blu, according to him).

Sample post from Lotus 4 posts down on this page:
http://www.avrevforum.com/showthread.php?t=980&page=39

(This same guy claimed 200k sold for Bourne Ultimatum, which seems ludicrous)

TL51 titles? Man alive, if you're gonna shoot your mouth off, at least do so within the boundaries of reality.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by sj001

Hmmm, RDjam/HDNOW, Lee Stewart, GizmoDVD, maybe Dave Vaughn too, are all PAID bloggers, even though Mr. Vaughn is a "neutral" journalist.

I can assure you that he is MOST DEFINITELY not a paid puppet. You promote him to a status he is most definitely not capable of serving.

Pro-B

[What'sHD]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It’s not important whatever the case.
People are not looking at a couple of trees, they’re looking at the whole forest from the vantage point of a soaring eagle.

That's good to know. I assume that means Warner and perhaps includes other hitherto short-sighted studios too. Thanks.

[JAGUAR1977]

Originally Posted by Razzy

HDDigest may as well change their name to HD DVD Digest and get it overwith. Anyways, Disney going neutral is about as likely as Sony going neutral.

That place is like a playground, stay away!

As for the various pie in the sky, Blu-rays doomed theories, we've had 18 months of these, EVERY one has been debunked time and again, are we meant to take these guys seriously, AGAIN!

I wouldn't mind, but these very same guys then go on to lambast, and try to discredit, true insiders!

I particularly like how they claim BD exclusive studios HAVE to go dual format, even exclusive to HD-DVD, due to astronomical BD50 costs, but Universal and Paramount have no need to take a chunk of the larger BD pie, and are quite happy to absorb the costs of what are likely to be expensive TL51's, that's if they even hit the market!

You couldn't make it up.

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

That place is like a playground, stay away!

With the crap xboxboi and GizmoDVD tried to pull last night, more like a mental institution.

I have never seen grown men act so much like a group of schoolgirls in my life. I remember back a few months ago the reaction here to the Warner rumor. Nothing like what was expected, I'm sure it was a big letdown to Lee and his "informer". Now you have an almost idiotic rumor, basically everyone but Sony going Red. And with the benefit of hindsight the HD DVD fanboys are wetting themselves with anticipation. It's going to be fun to watch the carnage.

[frank_t]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It’s not important whatever the case.
People are not looking at a couple of trees, they’re looking at the whole forest from the vantage point of a soaring eagle.

Excellent way to sum it up!

[Bombthroat]

Originally Posted by g.k.

Planet Earth was released simultaneously on both formats.

I thought he was talking about Polar Express.

At least, that's what made sense to me, given the context.

[MrBogey]

Kelly's Heroes....heh. They kept the gold from the Red Army too ya know. Warner still own distribution on it, right?

[HK-48]

Originally Posted by g.k.

He and "xboxboi" seem to have taken a shine to a guy calling himself "Lotus" on avrevforum.com who is claiming to be a studio insider. "Lotus" is claiming the following will happen at CES:

New Line going red, and LOTR announced as TL51 titles.
Disney's BD contract (for free BD50s) is up on January 1st, and that they are going neutral.
Warner going red or staying neutral (definitely not Blu, according to him).

Sample post from Lotus 4 posts down on this page:
http://www.avrevforum.com/showthread.php?t=980&page=39

(This same guy claimed 200k sold for Bourne Ultimatum, which seems ludicrous)

I am no insider, but I can tell you that is crap. New Line is going red, but WB may still remain neutral, despite both of them being owned by Time Warner? Sounds like this fool doesn't know what the hell he is talking about.

[OokieSpookie]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

I can assure you that he is MOST DEFINITELY not a paid puppet. You promote him to a status he is most definitely not capable of serving.

Pro-B

That is what happens to alot of the hd trolls out there.
People run around here and other places making threads for every quote they make and linking to them and feeding their ego as wanna be interweb celebs.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Well, I wouldn't worry about any of those claims.

1. NL will go wherever they are told to go by WB.
2. No such thing exists, so well, it is sort of true...
3. WB will be releasing on Blu-ray throughout 2008 and beyond.

Please refrain from posting this kind of tosh over here, it is pretty obvious FUD.

I agree Max. BTW Beowulf is up for preorder on amazon.co.uk

[Elandyll]

Originally Posted by g.k.

He and "xboxboi" seem to have taken a shine to a guy calling himself "Lotus" on avrevforum.com who is claiming to be a studio insider. "Lotus" is claiming the following will happen at CES:

New Line going red, and LOTR announced as TL51 titles.
Disney's BD contract (for free BD50s) is up on January 1st, and that they are going neutral.
Warner going red or staying neutral (definitely not Blu, according to him).

Sample post from Lotus 4 posts down on this page:
http://www.avrevforum.com/showthread.php?t=980&page=39

(This same guy claimed 200k sold for Bourne Ultimatum, which seems ludicrous)

Just to adress this, not as an insider but with logic, let's think just 2 seconds about this (which is about all the time this FUD requires us to pause about):

1) Not only Is Newline going where WB is going, but they have already chosen Blu Ray for limited exclusives due to its protection vs International release dates and international ditributors. Going Red = making no sense

2) Disney is a staunch Blu Ray supporter, more so even than Sony at times.
They are working on applying BD+ to protect their titles, and they invested hugely on the format (cf the Blu Tour). All their directors speak highly of Blu Ray. The one thing that is fueling made up rumors on HD DVD boards is them voting yes on the TL-51, but that is putting aside a few things.
Disney rarely abstains from votes at the DVD forums.
Disney will vote for issues susceptible to affect them. And the existence of a 51gb format, in case (improbable, but who knows) HD DVD wins definitely affects them.

3) Warner already has pledged its suport to Blu Ray through 08, and is seeing a majority of its releases doing better on Blu Ray when compared to HD DVD.
So .. going red makes little if no sense at all. Also the inexistence of zones and BD+ on HD DVD hurts their local sales too in theatres and local retailers(outside the US).


All FUD.

[MrBogey]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Please refrain from posting this kind of tosh over here

Interesting slang

[g.k.]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Well, I wouldn't worry about any of those claims.

1. NL will go wherever they are told to go by WB.
2. No such thing exists, so well, it is sort of true... not the neutral part of course
3. WB will be releasing on Blu-ray throughout 2008 and beyond.

Please refrain from posting this kind of tosh over here, it is pretty obvious FUD.

Thanks for the response. A lot of people are taking it seriously, so its good to here some refutation. The only part that was of any concern was the supposed Disney contract, if that doesn't exist as he stated then we can all be rest assured that this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

[sj001]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

I can assure you that he is MOST DEFINITELY not a paid puppet. You promote him to a status he is most definitely not capable of serving.

Pro-B

Well that's true, you have to have a brain larger than a walnut to qualify for HD-DVD blogger status.

[darinp2]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

1. NL will go wherever they are told to go by WB.

Is this how it is playing out, or is it more like Warner will go wherever Time Warner tells them to go, and so will New Line? The reports last time were that Warner's move to neutral was precipitated by a recommendation from Jeffrey Bewkes of Time Warner to the current CEO of Time Warner (Parsons). Since Jeffrey Bewkes will be moving into the CEO position on January 1st, I would expect he and Parson (as Chairman of the Board) to have the final say for both studios, with of course both studios being involved in the process. It doesn't seem like either studio could move without Bewkes approval.

--Darin