Archived: Ask the Insiders: Judgment Day Edition

[kotton247]

Originally Posted by Bombthroat

Thank you and all other insiders on Blu-ray.com for always demonstrating professionalism and not stooping to posting FUD about the other side. Also, this may be the most important thing, thank you for listening to us, the consumer, with regards to what WE value in a high-definition format.

The uncompressed audio, no dial norm, one sticker on the cases, etc all show what a group of consummate professionals can accomplish.

You should all give yourselves a pat on the back and take a bow.

Seriously, that is the most important change of 2007

[Merlins]

Originally Posted by Fozziwig

Hey, Merlins! Nice to see you round here old friend.

I've seen you helping to hold the fort over at HDD. Great job as usual.

And here we are and it's as good as over. Victory for Blu-ray (just a few loose ends to tie up). All the arguments were worth it in the end - pretty easy when all you have to do is tell the truth!

Victory for Blu-ray. It feels great does it not?

And yeah, it is the INSIDER thread. Sorry about that.

Thanks! I was more referring to the last part of the thread title: Judgment Day Edition. Today is the Judgement Day! It does feel great and thank you all insiders and everybody else that have helped Blu-ray. I'm quite bored of HDD now but I guess some fanboys will disappear now and say that they really are purple/neutral. Have already seen this. However, I think this is a better place to be.

To the insiders:

I posted this on HDD way back in July. How much will this play a factor now then also Warner is Blu-ray exclusive?

Originally Posted by Merlins

DVD Forum will soon change board of directors and Toshiba is not strong after it's maneuver in the rulings for HD-DVD and the failure the HD-DVD is facing. Not a single company have yet helped Toshiba to produce players that follow the HD-DVD specifications. One company have produced a dual player that can't play HDi-content and two companies have used Toshiba players in their stand-alone units (one of this have stopped selling them...).

How will the new DVD Forum look and what part will DVD Forum now play? If my estimations are correct, the new board will be decided in February. Am I correct?

EDIT: The Steering Committee under which HD-DVD lies is it that will be changed in February 2008:
http://www.dvdforum.com/about-steering.htm

[The Don]

Originally Posted by juanleche

I heard Amir's phone and internet connecction were shut off immediately following this announcement,

ok I'll stop with the jokes

no he's just suffering from jet lag....

busy weekend!..

err...not...

[shamus]

Originally Posted by merrick97

You can say it.

And thanks Merrick!!!
I got similar info from both of you but didn't want to say anything to the other cause I gave you guys my word!!! LOL!

[Iceman_II]

Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

Amen brother!

AVS should become a much nicer place to post.

But why would you want to? Just so the tools that run it can collect more from click through adverts?

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

OK folks lets call it something else I wear the moniker of Mystik Suicide with pride and don't want that flea infested ant amir associated with the word Suicide

Personally, I'm waiting for the photo-shoot, then we will ALL be on a "suicide watch"

How bout we agree that he and amir are on a "red ring of death" watch?

Thanks to Penton, Paid, and all the insiders, you held the high ground throughout... They say you measure a mans character in how he handles adversity, and his class by how he handles prosperity... everyone showed nothing but upstanding character when they were getting kicked around for MONTHS in that other forum.... and now, with the graciousness of people in success, not just the insiders, but the average blu supporter is proving to have tons of class as well.

Thanks again insiders.

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

I thought I saw you make a post recently saying that you expected an announcement prior to CES, no?

Yes, I did, but I started getting a lot of PMs and then posted that I was making a "prediction"

[Winn]

About 2 weeks ago I got a PM telling me that Warner was going exclusive just before CES. The anonymous source was sharing this to let me know my contest was wrapping up at just the right time. I figured it was likely an insider here and I wanted to be here to thank them when the war ended.

So, to whoever gave me a taste of actual insider information, I have many thanks.

[BluDomain]

Is Toshiba making a litigation threat in
their reply to the Warner announcement?
http://www.reuters.com/article/press...08+PRN20080104

Toshiba's Comment on Announcement from Warner Bros. Entertainment of Its
Exclusive Support for Blu-ray Disc Format

TOKYO, Jan. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Toshiba is quite surprised by Warner Bros.'
decision to abandon HD DVD in favor of Blu-ray, despite the fact that there
are various contracts in place between our companies concerning the support of
HD DVD. As central members of the DVD Forum, we have long maintained a close
partnership with Warner Bros. We worked closely together to help standardize
the first-generation DVD format as well as to define and shape HD DVD as its
next-generation successor.
We were particularly disappointed that this decision was made in spite of
the significant momentum HD DVD has gained in the US market as well as other
regions in 2007. HD DVD players and PCs have outsold Blu-ray in the US market
in 2007.
We will assess the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD
DVD partner companies and evaluate potential next steps. We remain firm in
our belief that HD DVD is the format best suited to the wants and needs of the
consumer.

Can an Insider comment please? I'm sure it was to be expected,
but it seems a little threatening to me.

[jebel]

Originally Posted by Winn

About 2 weeks ago I got a PM telling me that Warner was going exclusive just before CES. The anonymous source was sharing this to let me know my contest was wrapping up at just the right time. I figured it was likely an insider here and I wanted to be here to thank them when the war ended.

So, to whoever gave me a taste of actual insider information, I have many thanks.

Just curious Winn, did your source tell you Blu exclusive, or just exclusive?

[jling84]

Originally Posted by BluDomain

Is Toshiba making a litigation threat in
their reply to the Warner announcement?
http://www.reuters.com/article/press...08+PRN20080104

Smells like awfully sour grapes.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Merlins

What was the name of this thread now again?

Once things all calmed down, and Judgment Day has past, we can start a third edition.

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Once things all calms down, and Judgment Day has past, we can start a third edition.

yeah, we are all guitly of wearing this thread out on the off topic side. It prob wont cease until after CES

[JasonS]

Originally Posted by BluDomain

Is Toshiba making a litigation threat in
their reply to the Warner announcement?
http://www.reuters.com/article/press...08+PRN20080104

I have absolutely zero pity for Toshiba and will never be buying any of their products. They were behind the Paramount payout that stunned the Blu-ray community that even yanked some good releases out from under us weeks before release. I'm glad that they got a taste of their own medicine.

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by JasonS

I have absolutely zero pity for Toshiba and will never be buying any of their products. They were behind the Paramount payout that stunned the Blu-ray community that even yanked some good releases out from under us weeks before release. I'm glad that they got a taste of their own medicine.

Exactly, boohoo.

[TheRealBob]

Originally Posted by Merlins

What was the name of this thread now again?

The name of this thread is "Ask the Insiders". This is where we used to go to worry and fret about whether Blu-ray was finally going to put the stamp on HD DVD once and for all, where we'd go to have Blu-ray insiders reassure us that it was going to be OK in the end.

While I'm a big advocate of keeping this thread clean and always like to see when they've done a mass deletion of posts, in this case I think it's perfectly appropriate that they make an exception. People want to celebrate that all the veiled promises of the insiders have come to fruition.

If I were a moderator, I'd pretty much just throw out the rule book for this thread, let people go nuts, and eventually start a new Insiders thread when people have calmed down a bit.

[scott1256ca]

From http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsr...700383,00.html

Warner Home Video will continue to release its titles in standard DVD format and Blu-ray. After a short window following their standard DVD and Blu-ray releases, all new titles will continue to be released in HD DVD until the end of May 2008.

I suppose I could post this in the warner thread, but perhaps the insiders might care to comment on the above quote. Am I correct in reading into that WB will release new titles on HD DVD until may (but only after releasing on BD and DVD), but not catalog titles? I haven't paid much attention to release announcements this year, but have they announced any catalog titles? Would they cancel those?

Thanks

[spam.curitiba]

Originally Posted by scott1256ca

From http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsr...700383,00.html


I suppose I could post this in the warner thread, but perhaps the insiders might care to comment on the above quote. Am I correct in reading into that WB will release new titles on HD DVD until may (but only after releasing on BD and DVD), but not catalog titles? I haven't paid much attention to release announcements this year, but have they announced any catalog titles? Would they cancel those?

Thanks

HMM does that mean twister which comes out in may is coming out on HD DVD as well?

[quetzalcoatl]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

WB will continue to release HD DVDs but not in any sort of timely fashion...

In May WB will no longer be shipping any HD DVDs to their distributors.

From March, any HD DVD that has sold out will not be be replicated again. So if anyone wants to pick up a few of these 'collectors items' get them now!

All good info thanks Max.
Now if we can just get that next punch from say Uni at CES then this think could be over in a matter of weeks not months.

[Kristin Simard]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

From March, any HD DVD that has sold out will not be be replicated again. So if anyone wants to pick up a few of these 'collectors items' get them now!

Collecting dead horses?

[Nooff]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

WB will continue to release HD DVDs but not in any sort of timely fashion...

In May WB will no longer be shipping any HD DVDs to their distributors.

From March, any HD DVD that has sold out will not be be replicated again. So if anyone wants to pick up a few of these 'collectors items' get them now!

I think they might even hold back on titles like "I am Legend" which is supposed to hit DVD somewhere in March/May correct? Those will probably be Blu only