Groundhog Day (1993)

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I may well be wrong then. How did you turn off the subtitles completely? There are only two options that I can see in the disc's menu itself, so I picked the one which didn't have subs when they were talking, which I assumed was off, but then the billboard bit popped up.

If I go into the player's settings while the disc is running it's saying the subtitles are already off hence why I assumed that that bit was forced, but clearly this varies across players. I've got a Panasonic 310.

I just pressed the subtitle button on the remote once the movie started, and there is an off option listed, which I selected changing it from the Japanese subtitle option 1 which is the preset.

[Geoff D]

That's the thing, it already says off when I check the subtitles as the disc is playing. BUT I had already selected the second subtitle option (which I thought was off, but it must be a selected-captions-only track) from the disc menu before playing it, so I'll try playing it with the full subtitle track running first of all and then turn them off manually using the remote. I think that'll do it, thanks for the heads-up Cevo.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's the thing, it already says off when I check the subtitles as the disc is playing. BUT I had already selected the second subtitle option (which I thought was off, but it must be a selected-captions-only track) from the disc menu before playing it, so I'll try playing it with the full subtitle track running first of all and then turn them off manually using the remote. I think that'll do it, thanks for the heads-up Cevo.

This the one?

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/BLU-14594

[Geoff D]

Yessir.

[Geoff D]

Just to confirm: Cevolution is 100% right regarding the subs, you can turn them off FULLY once the movie starts instead of picking one or the other in the disc menu (the second option, which I thought was off, appears to be forced place captions instead). So just play the movie on default settings, turn off the subs with player remote rather than in the disc menu and you're good to go. Good catch!

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Just to confirm: Cevolution is 100% right regarding the subs, you can turn them off FULLY once the movie starts instead of picking one or the other in the disc menu. Good catch!

Just to expand on that Geoff D, the disc features 2 Japanese subtitle streams:

Presentation Graphics: Japanese 53.048 kbps
Presentation Graphics: Japanese 0.096 kbps

The second one, is the one with the translation. I'd assume it's like the translations in The Lord of the Rings BDs, you're not meant (or don't always have the option) to turn them off from the menu, but you can deactivate them (usually by accident) by cycling with your remote.

[Geoff D]

I know that now. I assumed that the second option in the menu was off, when it's actually the place captions. But the heck of it is, I've just played it again (interrupting EFNY) with the second option in the disc menu selected and now the caption doesn't come up at all. Whatever.

Bottom line is, no forced subs! Me wrong. Me bad.

[Geoff D]

Oh, and folks shouldn't be put off by the single-layer encode, the grain is so ultra-fine there's no problem with the compression. The image has got so much organic texture, it's about as far from video as I could ever imagine Blu-ray looking. I just hope they'll level out the skin tones a bit more for the US release. (I wonder if the 4K version on 4K Unlimited has the same issues?)

Watching this yesterday, I did a double-take when I saw the just-married kid ("Wrestlemania!!") because I never knew it was Michael Shannon.

[Nocturnaloner]

Originally Posted by hnkrdb

Out of curiosity where do you guys always find these announcement from Sony and Fox before the blu-ray sites report?

Die in a fire, scum.

[tama]

Originally Posted by hnkrdb

Out of curiosity where do you guys always find these announcement from Sony and Fox before the blu-ray sites report?

I believe Caps-a-holic posted comparison shots for people to see. Once it was mention that it was affordable through CDJapan most of us jumped.

[strumdogg]

Originally Posted by tama

I believe Caps-a-holic posted comparison shots for people to see. Once it was mention that it was affordable through CDJapan most of us jumped.

LOL, you got spammed.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by strumdogg

LOL, you got spammed.

What are you talking about?

[strumdogg]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

What are you talking about?

hnkrdb is a spammer.

[tama]

Originally Posted by strumdogg

hnkrdb is a spammer.

Really? wow

[strumdogg]

Originally Posted by tama

Really? wow

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=258734

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by strumdogg

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=258734

This had nothing to do with a spammer. It was Geoff and myself that suggested CDJapan. I even posted the link myself.

[strumdogg]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

This had nothing to do with a spammer. It was Geoff and myself that suggested CDJapan. I even posted the link myself.

He responded to the spammer as if it was a real member.

[tama]

Originally Posted by strumdogg

He responded to the spammer as if it was a real member.

I see what you're saying. Requoted the comment and saw the inbeded GIFs

[Sky_Captain]

I can confirm that by manually turning all subtitle tracks off, there are no forced subs.

[I KEEL YOU]

Saw this in another thread here:

Native 4K web rip vs Japanese 4K mastered blu ray

Not quite the same frame. Gotta admit, compared to the Dracula one there's definitely some notable difference in detail here. Still clearly not as much as a DVD vs blu ray difference though.

Looks like that even though it's encoded in HEVC and has a 50 mbps bit rate, it still has compression issues. Even though UHD blu ray can have bit rates as high as 100 mbps, because it's only limited to 100 GB per disc, very long movies like Lawrence of Arabia won't even be able to run on 50 mbps if they're limited to a single disc.