Switching gears for a moment, let’s step back and take a broader look and what one can reasonably expect from all of the major Hollywood studios in terms of upcoming 4K UHD titles that are either confirmed, considered likely, or are possible for release in 2016:
FOX – New releases will certainly include X-Men: Apocalypse, Independence Day: Resurgence, Ice Age: Collision Course, Trolls, and Assassin’s Creed. As for catalog titles, Independence Day and other X-Men films seem likely, along with popular catalog films like Die Hard and others.
SONY – The studio has just announced that The 5th Wave is coming to 4K UHD format on 5/3 with regular Blu-ray and DVD. You can also imagine the revamped Ghostbusters, The Angry Birds Movie, Patient Zero, and others. As for catalog titles, Sony’s 4K UHD press releases in the past have specifically teased such 4K-remastered titles as Fury, Captain Phillips, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Men in Black, Ghostbusters, The Fifth Element, Bad Boys, The Da Vinci Code, Bram Stoker’s Dracula, Leon: The Professional, Lawrence of Arabia, The Bridge on the River Kwai, The Guns of Navarone, Taxi Driver, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, and others.
LIONSGATE – The Divergent Series: Allegiant seems a likely upcoming title for Lionsgate to release in 4K. The previous films in this series seem possible catalog titles, along with The Hunger Games films. One can imagine the studio is also testing Apocalypse Now, Terminator 2: Judgment Day, and other ”evergreen” catalog titles as possible releases going forward.
WARNER – Warner plans to release some 35 4K titles in 2016, including many upcoming new release titles. That would make Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Suicide Squad, Tarzan, Geostorm, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, and Knights of the Roundtable: King Arthur all likely suspects. As for catalog titles, Warner has indicated that Man of Steel and Pacific Rim are both coming for sure. I wouldn’t be shocked to see The Iron Giant. Speed Racer and The Matrix films would seem obvious choices too.
PARAMOUNT – Multiple industry sources have informed me now that the studio’s first UHD releases this summer will include Star Trek (2009) and Star Trek Into Darkness. You can bet that the forthcoming Star Trek Beyond will also be released, and director Nicholas Meyer has now confirmed that Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan will be released on the format as well this year. (Note: I’ll have more to say on upcoming Trek BDs later this week.) I’ve personally seen 4K UHD tests of The Godfather (though sans HDR). I’ve also heard that the Transformers films, the Mission: Impossible films, Gladiator, Braveheart, and Top Gun are all being tested for possible release on the format.
UNIVERSAL – I’ve confirmed that Universal is planning to introduce its first 4K UHD titles in 2016, but probably not until the 3rd or 4th Quarter. The most likely forthcoming new release titles to debut on the format are probably Warcraft, Jason Bourne, and The Secret Lives of Pets.
DISNEY – Most sources I’ve spoken with suggest that Disney is waiting until 2017 to get into 4K UHD, though I’m told it’s still possible that you could see their first releases on the format in the 4th Quarter.
OTHERS – We know that Shout! Factory is launching their first 4K UHD IMAX documentary titles this summer. It remains to be seen whether Criterion, The Weinstein Company, and others studios join the 4K fray in 2016.
Weird how there's no chatter about Nolan's films from WB when outside of Transcendence he's really the only blockbuster filmmaker under the studio who consistently masters and renders in 4K. People have been clamoring for a new TDK transfer for some 7 years, too.
Meh. It seems like 20+ of Warner's 35 titles this year are also available in 3D which means I'm not interested in the 4K version. Maybe I'll get BvS in both but that depends on how they release this R rated Director's Cut.
Hopefully somebody announces some catalog titles soon. The schedule looks pretty barren with only 2-3 new releases coming out each month.
Weird how there's no chatter about Nolan's films from WB when outside of Transcendence he's really the only blockbuster filmmaker under the studio who consistently masters and renders in 4K. People have been clamoring for a new TDK transfer for some 7 years, too.
He must be suspicious of the HDR standards.
Well, Nolan no likey 3D and he's stuck to his guns as far as his own directorial efforts are concerned (didn't Warners want to convert Inception into 3D and he said no?), so HDR could be a reason why they're holding out on his flicks.
Then again, the format has only just launched and none of the studios is offering up a crown jewel of their catalogue now or in the immediate future, so perhaps there's no conspiracy. After all, there's no word on Harry Potter in UHD just yet from Warners and I doubt that those directors have enough clout to withold their movies.
I think the point is simply that HDR is the big talking point about this product launch, and actual 4K resolution content has been knocked down the pecking order as far as tech press column inches are concerned.
Well, Nolan no likey 3D and he's stuck to his guns as far as his own directorial efforts are concerned (didn't Warners want to convert Inception into 3D and he said no?), so HDR could be a reason why they're holding out on his flicks.
Then again, the format has only just launched and none of the studios is offering up a crown jewel of their catalogue now or in the immediate future, so perhaps there's no conspiracy. After all, there's no word on Harry Potter in UHD just yet from Warners and I doubt that those directors have enough clout to withold their movies.
I think the point is simply that HDR is the big talking point about this product launch, and actual 4K resolution content has been knocked down the pecking order as far as tech press column inches are concerned.
Does the format require an HDR grade? I know that's the feature that's second from 4k, but what if they decide to simply not HDR it?
Also, I'm a bit confused about 10-bit ~ HDR. I understand if there were more bits, effects such as banding would be reduced (even with dither). But how does it use it for HDR?
The format does not require HDR, no. But, as we were just saying in another thread, the studios are going all-out for HDR as the weapon of choice to sell this new format to consumers, so non-HDR content won't fit the "journey" or the "brand profile" or whatever umbrella of corporate bullshit it falls under. We will see some SDR UHD discs, I'm sure of it, but it probably won't be for a while.
As for your other question: my speculative tech 'knowledge' can only carry me so far, I'm not touching that one. Best wait for someone who knows what they're talking about.
Supporting ICtCp would involve adding a new value of matrix coeffs….no big deal.
ICtCp would be easy to add but since patents are involved I wouldn't be surprised if it has some competition.
Also I noticed that with ICtCp the I channel (luma channel) is different than it is for IPT. With IPT the L (red cone), M (green cone), and S (blue cone) are used to make the luma channel but with ICtCp it only uses L and M for the luma channel. That makes me wonder how well ICtCp will handle shades of blue especially when combined with chroma subsampling. It will be interesting to see the test results for ICtCp at the next HEVC meeting.
The ITU released a lot of information about HDR in that report.
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Also, I'm a bit confused about 10-bit ~ HDR. I understand if there were more bits, effects such as banding would be reduced (even with dither). But how does it use it for HDR?
10-bit video allows for 1024 levels of grayscale while 8-bit video only allows for 256 levels. 10-bit video is needed for HDR, which also uses new transfer functions, and even than it is barely sufficient. The ITU report on HDR has a few charts on bit depth and HDR.
Does anybody know what type of UHD discs (50 Gb, 66 Gb, 100 Gb) are used for the titles which have been released / are being released these weeks ?
I'm curious to know if they're using the smallest or the biggest disc especially.
Does anybody know what type of UHD discs (50 Gb, 66 Gb, 100 Gb) are used for the titles which have been released / are being released these weeks ?
I'm curious to know if they're using the smallest or the biggest disc especially.
66. The 100g discs are being prepared for mass production but will still be in limited supply I've read.
The ITU released a lot of information about HDR in that report.
Specifically Working Party 6C of Study Group 6.
As an aside, investigation continues in Hollywood (ASC subcommittees) into the quest for a single source master….http://nab16.mapyourshow.com/7_0/ses...ScheduleID=578
One of the panelists being Thomas who for relevance to this forum in particular, provided some excellent insight (backed up by testing) into the value of 4K physical media over 4K streaming at this conference….http://link.brightcove.com/services/...706033961001?b
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