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Old 06-17-2015, 05:07 AM   #5301
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Seems there is some indication as to what may form part of Fox's UHD-BD lineup.


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...r-ultra-802631
I saw it just before I went to work last night, I was thinking about It whilst there, I have only seen Kingsmen that I enjoyed so If they are launch titles there's a least one film I somewhat enjoyed, although I wasn't completely enthralled by it. I can't really think what Fox could launch that I would be bothered about.
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Old 06-17-2015, 06:13 AM   #5302
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I saw it just before I went to work last night, I was thinking about It whilst there, I have only seen Kingsmen that I enjoyed so If they are launch titles there's a least one film I somewhat enjoyed, although I wasn't completely enthralled by it. I can't really think what Fox could launch that I would be bothered about.
Something by James Cameron perhaps?
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Old 06-17-2015, 01:07 PM   #5303
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Given Jurassic World’s acquisition - http://motion.kodak.com/motion/Publi...65_mm_Film.htm
It’s a pity the theatrical audiences tonight will only get 2K resolution (2K DCPs). Conversely, in a couple hours on the Fox lot…the NHK invitation reads - Witness Visuals and Sound Beyond Anything You’ve Ever Experienced as Japan’s NHK Televises the Revolutionary 8K Super Hi-Vision in 22.2 Surround Sound. For the first time ever in North America, NHK in association with FOX Sports will air live the unmatched, unrivaled wonder of 8K Super Hi-Vision with 22.2 Surround Sound from the FIFA Women’s World Cup Soccer Tournament in Canada.

Thought for the evening: Soccer players (Japan vs. Cameroon) rule over dinosaurs….at least in the theater.
Thanks for the link, Penton. I especially like this bit:

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“We shot our 65mm tests at Panavision, sent the negative over the FotoKem, and saw it projected the next day,” he says. “It was like, ‘Oh, my god. Why aren’t we doing this on every movie?’ It’s just so beautiful.”
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Old 06-17-2015, 01:11 PM   #5304
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That remark sounds a lot like me when I saw my parent's slides projected on a wall sized screen for the first time in decades, or when I saw Lawrence in 70mm.

On the "Oh my God, film is so beautiful" front, I figured you all would appreciate my little project. I am a huge Chip and Dale/Rescue Rangers fan. So, why not combine my love for my two favorite chipmunks with my love of film? Sounds like a good combination to me.....

(My film of choice? Fuji Velvia 100. Absoultely gorgeous color and makes a wonderful 6K scanned image even in 35mm.)

http://www.theacorncafe.org/phpbb/vi...hp?f=9&t=30723

Here's a test shot for scanning purposes. I'd say ol' 35mm Velvia holds up pretty well, don't you think?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6N...ew?usp=sharing

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Old 06-17-2015, 05:01 PM   #5305
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Seems there is some indication as to what may form part of Fox's UHD-BD lineup.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...r-ultra-802631
from the article above ^
“The initiative is led by….the Fox Innovation Lab”

Nicknamed ‘The Bunker’ by locals.
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Old 06-17-2015, 05:17 PM   #5306
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from the article above ^
“The initiative is led by….the Fox Innovation Lab”

Nicknamed ‘The Bunker’ by locals.
Is there a picture of it?
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Old 06-17-2015, 05:40 PM   #5307
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Is there a picture of it?
For public consumption? Now? Not that I'm aware of. It's a secret place with limited access.
Perhaps Carolyn can charm the guards.
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Old 06-17-2015, 05:49 PM   #5308
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Seems there is some indication as to what may form part of Fox's UHD-BD lineup.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...r-ultra-802631
From Carolyn’s article above ^ “High dynamic range — meaning a wider range between the whitest whites and blackest blacks in an image”

Little known fact…. standard dynamic range color correction often involves compromising color for brightness (one way or another….with current SDR color correction, pumping up the reds allows more perceived brightness than just using yellow). For example, within a scene, a colorist may not be able to provide the filmmaker optimally desired brightness to both the sky, and at the same time, to objects (actors) in the foreground because grading at 100 nits just won’t allow it (the process is hamstrung).

Point being, HDR isn’t all about the blackest blacks and the whitest whites, there is also value elsewhere.
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Old 06-17-2015, 05:54 PM   #5309
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Thanks for the link, Penton. I especially like this bit:
Film isn’t dead yet….
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3682448/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

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Old 06-18-2015, 11:24 AM   #5310
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May as well be with all the digital crap they slap on it
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:33 PM   #5311
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May as well be with all the digital crap they slap on it
You mean... a color grade?
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:28 PM   #5312
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You mean... a color grade?
A DI in general, it made everything look the same and a lighting cameraman non existent.
It has made cinematographers lazy as they can fix it all in post.
Give me ENR any day.
And I am not all about the photochemical over the digital, Nolan's films for example I find super ugly.
Plus HDR and everything else, its all just looking too artificial and without style.
I would rather see a CCE print if Se7en again than the digital try at the look the BD has.
One day we will find a print and scan it and I will be happy.
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Old 06-18-2015, 10:08 PM   #5313
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You mean... a color grade?
Long, but good story (3 sessions…start from the first to understand the history). Mike is referring to the two guys in the white suits jumping off the helicopter coming to kidnap poor Mrs. Grain (film) near the end of the 3rd session and subsequently what she then looked like after they were *done* with her -

http://motion.kodak.com/motion/Hub/P...pixelgrain.htm
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Old 06-18-2015, 10:12 PM   #5314
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a lighting cameraman
Good institute for learning -
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Old 06-18-2015, 10:16 PM   #5315
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Plus HDR and everything else...
Helps to trim the highlights to achieve the final HDR look (grade)…..

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Old 06-19-2015, 02:47 PM   #5316
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Speaking of HDR, I stopped by my local Best Buy over my lunch break to see the HDR Jurassic World footage. Of course, that TV had motion smoothing on and the color was set to vivid so I couldn't objectively evaluate it at all.

I was very impressed with LG's 1080p OLED TV, as well as the Samsung 4K LCDs. They don't compare to the OLEDs, but they are far better than they used to be. I saw some 4K footage of House of Cards, Bloodlines, Breaking Bad, and Daredevil. Overall, it was quite good, but with one exception: whenever the LCD TVs showed nighttime footage, such as Daredevil, there was a horrendous amount of noise in the picture, far more than just mere sensor noise. I also noticed Breaking Bad looked very odd at times because the TV did a very poor job of rendering grain naturally. I can only imagine what The Walking Dead would look like on these sets.

I remember when I was shopping for a new TV a few years ago, I used BDs of Up and Casino Royale. Up was a test to see how well a TV could display a "noiseless" image, and the black and white sequence in Casino Royale was a good test to see how well the TV could display coarse grain. The LCD TVs failed, particularily with the grainy sequence.

Did anyone else notice this with the 4K Netflix footage?
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:51 PM   #5317
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The thing I like most about Robert’s upcoming shootout is that it reminds me of the past *noise* from detractors (‘expert’, as well as imaging neophyte) from every corner of the internet who have posted things on blogs and forums varying from - ‘It will be a very long time before 4K/UHD TVs become popular with serious home theater enthusiasts’, or…’I am perfectly satisfied with my 1080p TV and will never buy a stinkin 4K TV’, or, short and to the point… ‘4K sucks’, etc….y’all know the deal, past 4K bashing like there is now with HDR bashing like there was in the past with Blu-ray bashing on all other websites (with the exception of Blu-ray.com) during the format war….

and here (in 2015) we have a retailer competition to determine the “King of TV” and guess what? All the contenders are 4K/UHD tvs …..no 1080p rez jobs. So the haters can live with it and are free to bookmark these words.

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This morning I received a couple PMs inquiring as to how will they (Value Electronics) calibrate the gamma (2.4? BT.1886?) for the TVs in the shootout. You would have to ask Robert for the particulars, but I can remind folks factually how the math works out and its potential implications.
With regards to "bookmark these words" in the above ^. Movement continues in that direction....http://www.digitaltveurope.net/38387...high-in-april/
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:56 PM   #5318
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...anyone else notice this with the 4K Netflix footage?
I’m unable to comment for although being a Netflix shareholder, I’m a little embarrassed to admit that I don’t normally watch Netflix at home and I very rarely visit Best Buy. But I’ll add a little something to the rest of your posting in order to be sociable and not leave the post hanging.
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:10 PM   #5319
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....I couldn't objectively evaluate it at all.
Friday perspective:

I’m always appreciative of my vision. There are many folks out there who are not so fortunate, e.g. according to some psychologists, the 3 worst things that can happen to a human being are -



But science and dedicated professionals are helping them cope by improving the quality of their life….

Written spiel - http://www.keckmedicine.org/usc-eye-...united-states/

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Update:
Another Argus retinal implant surgery is planned very soon at USC Eye Institute. Best wishes to all involved.
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:16 PM   #5320
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I was very impressed with LG's 1080p OLED TV, as well as the Samsung 4K LCDs. They don't compare to the OLEDs, but they are far better than they used to be....
OLED TVs can look extremely fine, for example at the past Cine Gear Expo, Sony’s BVM-X300 4k Monitor, an OLED, (which was showing HDR footage in a very dark demo area), won in the Best Monitor category:
http://motionpicturelightingandgrip....ers-announced/

Although, an expressed concern from those responsible for outfitting post house mastering facilities has been regarding what will the longevity be of OLED monitors running HDR content all the time….which has yet to be determined with certainty. It is believed that it will be substantially shorter than that for SDR, which has been the traditional viewing/mastering mode.
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