Gladiator (2000) - Page 65 - Blu-ray Forum

Germtop · 08-31-2009, 03:01 PM

I went to bestbuy.com and chose both blu-rays but it doesn't have the store pick-up option available.

Does anyone know if this is due to the fact that it's a pre-order?

Sussudio · 08-31-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Germtop

I went to bestbuy.com and chose both blu-rays but it doesn't have the store pick-up option available.

Does anyone know if this is due to the fact that it's a pre-order?

The option just might be unavailable for stores close to you (for whatever reason)...many of us have already pre-ordered it from BB's site using in-store pickup, so I'm not sure what's up

fronn · 08-31-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by broganreynik

Disney has yet to have a replacement program for the travesty that was Gangs of New York, so I don't see this happening, although it is a different studio.

A couple small differences that may make a redo more likely than GoNY:

1) Gladiator has been one of the most wanted titles since the format's inception
2) Sapphire series, by Paramount's own marketing, should be held to a higher standard and should be top tier (or at least as good as the title can be)
3) Easy comparison can be made between Extended footage and Theatrical cut footage - it's easy to see what the movie could be like.

Germtop · 08-31-2009, 03:53 PM

That's weird. I always get the pick-up option.

Blu-Benny · 08-31-2009, 03:58 PM

can someone answer me a quick question???

the theatrical and extended releases on this disc.

they are 2 separate viewing options correct??

all of this DNR and EE talk, is it on both or just one???

do we know this as of yet??

Sussudio · 08-31-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

can someone answer me a quick question???

the theatrical and extended releases on this disc.

they are 2 separate viewing options correct??

all of this DNR and EE talk, is it on both or just one???

do we know this as of yet??

The theatrical cut is the one affected. From what it seems, the extended cut looks great.

Right...?

SBrooks1 · 08-31-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

they are 2 separate viewing options correct??

all of this DNR and EE talk, is it on both or just one???

do we know this as of yet??

No, the Extended Edition scenes are seamlessly branched into the Theatrical Edition. The Theatrical Edition has the EE and DNR applied, the Extended Edition scenes do not.

ack_bak · 08-31-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

The theatrical cut is the one affected. From what it seems, the extended cut looks great.

Right...?

Yes, the theatrical cut has DNR, EE, applied. The extended cut appears to be cut from a newer master and is not affected.

The problem is that if you watch the extended version, the disc uses seamless branching to add in the extended scenes. So you literally jump back and forth between the theatrical cut and the extended cut during the movie. It would probably have been better if the studio just would have applied DNR/EE to the extended cut scenes as well so the movie is at least consistent.

Jimbo976 · 08-31-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

The theatrical cut is the one affected. From what it seems, the extended cut looks great.

Right...?

Well it's the scenes that are only in the extended cut that sound like they look better. Since seemless branching is used, all the scenes that are common to both (the majority of the movie) use the older master which apparently does not look near as good.

So it's not like someone can say they'll only watch the extended version and not care since most of the extended version is exactly the same as the theatrical version.

Astalder · 08-31-2009, 04:09 PM

It's a shame to see all this. I don't have the DVD anymore so I do want this movie at some point, that said I'm in no rush to buy it. Braveheart and the Star Trek singles coming out this month I'm definitely grabbing. I'll be holding on Gladiator till I hear about the double dip edition or I see it on sale ($20 max) and am in a mood to watch it. If I can wait for LOTR EE I can certainly wait to see what happens with Gladiator (I'm less interested in sword movies lately anyways).

Chordata · 08-31-2009, 04:12 PM

I still think I'm buying the package tomorrow.

If I get burned, I get burned.

But I want to decide for myself whether it looks bad, distracting, etc. I don't need "insiders" or "experts" at this or any other site to make up my mind for me.

Blu-Benny · 08-31-2009, 04:13 PM

just so i'm clear, it's not like the studio said: "well, we're gonna give them both versions but make the entire extended cut look awesome."

it's either watch the theatrical in it's "sub-par" quality or watch the extended version with "sub-par" theatrical scenes w/awesome extended scenes mixed in.

yes??

Col. Zombie · 08-31-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O_V_N

I still think I'm buying the package tomorrow.

If I get burned, I get burned.

But I want to decide for myself whether it looks bad, distracting, etc. I don't need "insiders" or "experts" at this or any other site to make up my mind for me.

+1

IMO this was a great movie that I can enjoy regardless of a few disappearing arrows, some DNR and EE. I'll decide for myself, but one thing I am certain of is this; even if it has a shockingly bad PQ, it won't ruin my life.

Sussudio · 08-31-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

just so i'm clear, it's not like the studio said: "well, we're gonna give them both versions but make the entire extended cut look awesome."

it's either watch the theatrical in it's "sub-par" quality or watch the extended version with "sub-par" theatrical scenes w/awesome extended scenes mixed in.

yes??

benny...i think the entire extended cut was from a superior master, so the entire extended version looks great. the theatrical cut comes from a separate master, and looks worse. that's what i thought anyway...i guess if there's seamless branching that wouldn't work...i have no idea what i'm talking about....

Blu-Benny · 08-31-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

benny...i think the entire extended cut was from a superior master, so the entire extended version looks great. the theatrical cut comes from a separate master, and looks worse. that's what i thought anyway...i guess if there's seamless branching that wouldn't work...i have no idea what i'm talking about....

that's ok buddy!!!

i'm getting more confused, it doesn't really matter to me. i'm still buying it 2morrow.

Buddy Christ · 08-31-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

..i have no idea what i'm talking about....

I think I should write that at the end of most of my posts

SleeperAgent · 08-31-2009, 04:26 PM

The extended really could be from a better master that they are saving for the double-dip crowd. Which is TOTALLY LAME considering this "Sapphire Series" is supposed to be top notch PQ/AQ.

I'll buy that one too though. I still have Let the Right One In with bad subs.

Good movies are worth it.

SquidPuppet · 08-31-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

benny...i think the entire extended cut was from a superior master, so the entire extended version looks great. the theatrical cut comes from a separate master, and looks worse. that's what i thought anyway...i guess if there's seamless branching that wouldn't work...i have no idea what i'm talking about....

If you watch the extended version, you will be seeing the theatrical version (poor PQ) BLENDED with a few scenes (better PQ) that equal the extended version.

The majority of the extended version will look bad. Only the added scenes will have the better PQ.

Chordata · 08-31-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSoviet

I'll buy that one too though. I still have Let the Right One In with bad subs.

Good movies are worth it.

Exactly. The movie is still awesome.

banned user105 · 08-31-2009, 04:32 PM

I got a chance to watch the Gladiator Blu-Ray last night and yeah, it's pretty bad. Not unwatchable, but definitely unworthy of the Blu-Ray disc it's written on. At first I wasn't sure about the anger and disappointment over this transfer, but now that I've seen it, I know those feelings are totally justified. I have a feeling they're going to remaster this as the chorus of dissenters grows louder starting tomorrow.

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08-31-2009, 03:01 PM	#1281
Germtop Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:121 Blu-ray collection:720 DVD collection:10 Trading Score:1	I went to bestbuy.com and chose both blu-rays but it doesn't have the store pick-up option available. Does anyone know if this is due to the fact that it's a pre-order?

08-31-2009, 03:53 PM	#1284
Germtop Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:121 Blu-ray collection:720 DVD collection:10 Trading Score:1	That's weird. I always get the pick-up option.

08-31-2009, 03:58 PM	#1285
Blu-Benny Michael Bay's #1 Fan Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Wisconsin Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:552 DVD collection:108 Trading Score:138	can someone answer me a quick question??? the theatrical and extended releases on this disc. they are 2 separate viewing options correct?? all of this DNR and EE talk, is it on both or just one??? do we know this as of yet??

08-31-2009, 04:09 PM	#1290
Astalder Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:190 Blu-ray reviews: 11 Trading Score:11	It's a shame to see all this. I don't have the DVD anymore so I do want this movie at some point, that said I'm in no rush to buy it. Braveheart and the Star Trek singles coming out this month I'm definitely grabbing. I'll be holding on Gladiator till I hear about the double dip edition or I see it on sale ($20 max) and am in a mood to watch it. If I can wait for LOTR EE I can certainly wait to see what happens with Gladiator (I'm less interested in sword movies lately anyways).

08-31-2009, 04:12 PM	#1291
Chordata Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Home of N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I still think I'm buying the package tomorrow. If I get burned, I get burned. But I want to decide for myself whether it looks bad, distracting, etc. I don't need "insiders" or "experts" at this or any other site to make up my mind for me.

08-31-2009, 04:13 PM	#1292
Blu-Benny Michael Bay's #1 Fan Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Wisconsin Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:552 DVD collection:108 Trading Score:138	just so i'm clear, it's not like the studio said: "well, we're gonna give them both versions but make the entire extended cut look awesome." it's either watch the theatrical in it's "sub-par" quality or watch the extended version with "sub-par" theatrical scenes w/awesome extended scenes mixed in. yes??

08-31-2009, 04:26 PM	#1297
SleeperAgent Banned Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Plateau of Leng 4K collection:19 Blu-ray collection:22 Trading Score:289	The extended really could be from a better master that they are saving for the double-dip crowd. Which is TOTALLY LAME considering this "Sapphire Series" is supposed to be top notch PQ/AQ. I'll buy that one too though. I still have Let the Right One In with bad subs. Good movies are worth it.

08-31-2009, 04:32 PM	#1300
banned user105 Banned Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Orlando Blu-ray collection:1672	I got a chance to watch the Gladiator Blu-Ray last night and yeah, it's pretty bad. Not unwatchable, but definitely unworthy of the Blu-Ray disc it's written on. At first I wasn't sure about the anger and disappointment over this transfer, but now that I've seen it, I know those feelings are totally justified. I have a feeling they're going to remaster this as the chorus of dissenters grows louder starting tomorrow.

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