4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Blu-Lagoona

As someone who has worked a lot with 4K for the last five years, including FX compositing and Color timing in 4K...

Welcome, have you graded any HDR material yet? I assume you’re from outside the U.S. It would be nice to hear your insight(s) as to what you think are the differences between UK/Euro colorists vs. U.S. colorists in terms of -

-their background before having become digital colorists….
-different preferences as to the degree of contrast in the graded imagery…
-support, i.e. the opportunity in the budget to have or not have an assistant to help you with a project, like we commonly do have here in the U.S.

Things like that are not discussed, much less even recognized on consumer forums, but some here may be interested in learning about those nuances. I’m aware of these things but it would be great for readers to hear it from someone outside the U.S., for perspective.

Originally Posted by Blu-Lagoona

...We did a blind taste test and found that no-one could pick which was which. AT any screen size. I did the work myself and after two weeks couldn't remember which was which and certainly couldn't see it in the context of a cut sequence.

Your findings conflict with other tests conducted in Europe, one of which I elaborated upon here….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...nt#post9504489

Originally Posted by Blu-Lagoona

Will we, as consumers, actually bother to check whether the shiny 4K blu ray disc we are about to buy is sourced from the original 2K digital intermediate and uprezzed in the mastering suite or is a complete rescan and conform/color time etc in 4K? And if we don't check are we ultimately paying for something that our new players and TV's might be able to do an adequate job of? True, 444 colour and extended gamut is going to improve things a bit but is it enough to double dip on a scale that will make the format economically viable for us and the studios and distributors.

Just asking.

Well, I think it’s safe to say all avid home theater enthusiasts are hoping so because many of us now prefer the comfort and convenience of watching movies at home since the deliverables and our displays have gotten better and better over the years….rather than dealing with all the real world negatives related going to and sitting in public cinemas…rude patrons, tympanic membrane blasting sound, etc.

Honestly, I think many believe and have accepted the notion that Ultra HD Blu-ray will have an uphill battle towards long term success. Things like the current online authentication debate and the fact that last year (2014) represented the first year since the launch of Blu-ray that the number of movie titles actually decreased (http://www.dvdandblurayreleasereport.com/ ) when with previous years it had been increasing year-over-year, no matter how one spins that title decrease, is not a good, healthy thing. But we have hope and enjoy a fair challenge.

[Penton-Man]

4K Master association -
(I assume by now many readers know Q.T. is shooting The Hateful Eight on 65mm Kodak Vision 3), courtesy of their F.B. page…





So, heads-up to those having interest in Quentin, the cast, or westerns, in general – for leisurely reading while waiting in an airport or such, pick up the Entertainment Weekly magazine on newsstands this Friday, or purchase the online copy for ~ 5 bucks…
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/06...5c52004a72f141

[jono3000]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Things like the current online authentication debate and the fact that last year (2014) represented the first year since the launch of Blu-ray that the number of movie titles actually decreased (http://www.dvdandblurayreleasereport.com/ ) when with previous years it had been increasing year-over-year, no matter how one spins that title decrease, is not a good, healthy thing. But we have hope and enjoy a fair challenge.

To illustrate your point, I recently noted the figures from the Blu-ray.com database for UK releases. I wonder if this holds true for all countries?

Blu-ray
2006 31
2007 222
2008 536
2009 878
2010 1103
2011 1484
2012 1716
2013 1897
2014 1850

3D Blu-ray
2010 17
2011 93
2012 132
2013 134
2014 119

I'd imagine UHDBD will have similar numbers to 3D releases. Here's hoping that forthcoming titles include UHD and 3D in the same package or consumers with an interest in both will have to choose between the two. Also I hope the practice of including DVDs is stopped, they will then be 2 generations of technology old.

[AVfile]

Originally Posted by dib2

There are movies already in 4K just no way to view them at home. Here is a place where you can find movies that were shot it 4K.



http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/mkt-dig...ing.shtml#2011

This page linked doesn't work. Is there a list of 4k movies?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by AVfile

This page linked doesn't work. Is there a list of 4k movies?

lists

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

lists

Thanks for getting the thread back were it belongs Penton-Man

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

Thanks for getting the thread back were it belongs Penton-Man

Can you take a little ribbing?

This evening someone emailed me a link to a White Paper which is an easy reading amalgamation of some of the finer UHD/4K on topic cutting-edge postings we've made here over the pasts months/years.

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Can you take a little ribbing?

This evening someone emailed me a link to a White Paper which is an easy reading amalgamation of some of the finer UHD/4K on topic cutting-edge postings we've made here over the pasts months/years.

You can post what ever you want ~ Won't bother me at all

Have a great night for it is that time for me

[dib2]

Originally Posted by AVfile

This page linked doesn't work. Is there a list of 4k movies?

Sony has made a lot of changes to their site. It's hard to keep up. I noticed they have some HDR TVs which are only 3x brighter and worse, they are the only zone backlighting TVs and have speakers on the side.

We sold our old house so I want to get a 4K TV for our new house. I just don't think its going to be HDR until they come up with a standard. In audition to that, how is it going to be delivered ? Sony demoed a 4K HRD OLED TV with 10x brightness. I don't know what the difference is in picture but soon I will have to make a trip down to the shop and see if I can compare the HRD 4K to non HDR 4K.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

Have a great night for it is that time for me

lol, I beat you to it (going offline) last night, as I officially caught your response only this morning.

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

You can post what ever you want ~ Won't bother me at all

I didn’t think it would, for if I recall correctly, I believe you’re married like many of the rest of us, but out of good manners, I’d thought it polite to ask first.

Follow carefully….original concept from 12/12/2013 -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ll#post8520754

Then, a more detailed elaboration in early April of this year, courtesy of having been prompted by Steed’s passion -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...h#post10652398

Finally….although a bit rudimentary (as example, with regards to its discussion of vision [regarding how we see ‘4K’] and color science) for those of us having doctorates in science

The following pdf is a respectable summary by Ericsson geared toward consumer learning about many of the principles applied to UHD/4K, as discussed right here….in this thread (with pictorial illustrations and graphs, no less) over the past months/years on up to present day amongst the relatively few pure Prem league musings. So, for those who haven’t been able to process such tie-ins, as for one example, I’ll direct your attention particularly to the top of page 9, for writing which does -
http://www.ericsson.com/res/docs/whitepapers/wp-uhd.pdf

There have been other soccer analogy examples more precisely related to spatial resolution (‘4K’) as well as temporal resolution in this thread, but I’ll spare reminding the Prem League complainers of those.

P.S.
The value of wider dynamic range images (HDR or EDR, as Dolby prefers) doesn’t only apply to soccer matches, but there is also value to be had with motion pictures.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

The Mod team

Happy Birthday (I’m on Pacific Standard Time) to pro-bassoonist.

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by jono3000

Blu-ray
2006 31
2007 222
2008 536
2009 878
2010 1103
2011 1484
2012 1716
2013 1897
2014 1850

3D Blu-ray
2010 17
2011 93
2012 132
2013 134
2014 119

2006 seem like ages ago, I can remember both 2005 & 2006 being good years.

Only 31 titles? At what point in the year did it launch? I seem to remember HD DVD launching in April. The only things that will stop me getting a Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc player this side of Christmas is a sorry crop of launch titles or an extortionate price. What were the launch titles for both formats?

[jono3000]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

2006 seem like ages ago, I can remember both 2005 & 2006 being good years.

Only 31 titles? At what point in the year did it launch? I seem to remember HD DVD launching in April. The only things that will stop me getting a Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc player this side of Christmas is a sorry crop of launch titles or an extortionate price. What were the launch titles for both formats?

I'm not going to list them here, but if you construct a search of this site's database you can retrieve them - just put country UK and release year.

I remember when Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs was the only commercially available 3D disc available for months (excluding the promo discs that came with players or glasses). I can see this happening again with UHDBD.

[bailey1987]

Looking at the scheduled it took until October 2008 for the release momentum to pick up, this was in the throws of the format war though so with a bit of luck the releases won't be as trickled out as they were in the early days of bluray. I can count on one hand the amount of titles I would have bought in the first year and two hands the second year. It was July 2008 when a title that I will take to the grave with me was released.

There doesn't appear to be a format war brewing at least not one that will see two discs on the market I hope this allows Ultra HD to hit it's stride quicker than Blu-ray.

[bailey1987]

Speaking about blu-ray releases do any of you have many films that you would buy on blu-ray that you own on DVD or VHS that has still to be released.

When the next generation formats came out I redecorated my cinema room as such I took all my DVD's out of their cases and put them in a portfolio, I put all the cases in the shed and they are still there now. The DVD's fill two portfolios and of all the DVD's in them I think I have only bought a hand full on Blu-ray this is simply because they are not available on the format. I also know of many films that are still only on VHS that I never got round to buying on DVD because they were never released on that format. There's at least 100 films that I would buy again but there stuck in these two black leather portfolios.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

There doesn't appear to be a format war brewing at least not one that will see two discs on the market I hope this allows Ultra HD to hit it's stride quicker than Blu-ray.

Any format war will obviously not involve two disc formats. But it could involve UHD BD and a digital format. That's one reason why it's important for digital and disc to be integrated into one master format for UHD (via the digital bridge feature).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

You can post what ever you want ~ Won't bother me at all

For the record, sometime after this Insider posting from 2-20-2015, in which it was exclusively revealed to ‘4K Movie Releases’ readers that Magic Mike would be getting a 4K finish….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post10446921
the imdb specs were finally updated to disclose to the public-at-large that very fact. Some tell me it took 4 weeks for imdb to catch up to Blu-ray.com with that info….others say 6 weeks…and still others, 7 weeks. Which, in a roundabout fashion brings me to this -

I see that dvdmike – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...m#post10713767 is in the cooler (on suspension) and I realize this is far from his first offense with da law. I agree he is an odd fellow (some might argue...VERY odd), but in a weird sort of way, he serves a purpose in the Tech forum. I know this is a long shot, but I don’t suppose you or any of the other mods could reveal to us if his sentence will be over by the time Magic Mike releases in US theaters on July 1…which is in about 7 weeks?

[bailey1987]

I wondered were DVDMike was and bludog

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

I wondered were DVDMike was and bludog

Dawg is out of the pound ! Bragging about his dongle -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=261212&page=8

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

For the record, sometime after this Insider posting from 2-20-2015, in which it was exclusively revealed to ‘4K Movie Releases’ readers that Magic Mike would be getting a 4K finish….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post10446921
the imdb specs were finally updated to disclose to the public-at-large that very fact. Some tell me it took 4 weeks for imdb to catch up to Blu-ray.com with that info….others say 6 weeks…and still others, 7 weeks. Which, in a roundabout fashion brings me to this -

I see that dvdmike – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...m#post10713767 is in the cooler (on suspension) and I realize this is far from his first offense with da law. I agree he is an odd fellow (some might argue...VERY odd), but in a weird sort of way, he serves a purpose in the Tech forum. I know this is a long shot, but I don’t suppose you or any of the other mods could reveal to us if his sentence will be over by the time Magic Mike releases in US theaters on July 1…which is in about 7 weeks?

dvdmike has 22 days left on his suspension I did not do this one so I cannot change it