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Old 01-16-2013, 07:30 PM   #821
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And here is something to debunk the original posting. There were exciting 3D news from CES, although 4K was the new jewel of the crown.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/column...13_1600/Page-2
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:44 PM   #822
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Again,where do you get your info from? Phantom Menace 3D did ok business. The next Episodes were brought forward because the new trilogy is coming in 2015,they got to get the old films out by then.
First, box office numbers are easy to pull they're readily available. And as I noted, I'm basing this off the previous fall off within the most recent re-releases of the original trilogy.

Second this is essentially the last shot Fox gets a piece of this stuff... So Duh. Of course they do control distribution until 2020, excluding Star Wars Ep IV, which they completely control. (Lucas did not get the rights back on that film, just the subsequent films.)

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Old 01-16-2013, 07:48 PM   #823
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Why hasn't Hollywood figured it out?!?!?!?

I'm poor.
I have defective eyes and brain.
I consider having nearly weightless plastic on my ears and nose to be an unbearable burden.

Due to these reasons all movie-going individuals on earth should be forbidden from enjoying the highly immersive experience that 3d films can create.

WHY IS HOLLYWIERD SO STOOPID?!?!?1?!
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:14 PM   #824
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First, box office numbers are easy to pull they're readily available. And as I noted, I'm basing this off the previous fall off within the most recent re-releases of the original trilogy.

Second this is essentially the last shot Fox gets a piece of this stuff... So Duh. Of course they do control distribution until 2020, excluding Star Wars Ep IV, which they completely control. (Lucas did not get the rights back on that film, just the subsequent films.)

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Thanks for telling me what I already know....

I know the PM Ep. 1 numbers,and they were sufficient.

There is an agreement between Fox and Disney/LucasFilm that brought the other re-releases forward,fact.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:38 AM   #825
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Yeah what he is pretty much saying is that all we do is read the forums 24 hours a day and he is to busy to check in because he has a REAL JOB and better life than the rest of us.... What a piece of work
I wish I had a better job and a better life,lol. He's just SO much better than us common folk,lol. What the **** ever dude,lol
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:40 AM   #826
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I'm sad now. I just found out commenting on a forum means I have a fake life and fake job. I guess it should be that way when movies are fake too. Lies, all of it.

On a serious note, 3D and IMAX are continuing to grow. The sheer amount of new releases and conversions of older films show that there is a substanial interest in the medium. It may never reach a majority audience, but the vast amount of people who do enjoy it are obviously at such a number that they continue to use the technology and are developing new ways to use it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:40 PM   #827
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IMO, there are some movies that benefited from 3D and maybe watched the movie because it was offered in 3D whereas they might not have watched it. IMO, Avatar benefited from the 3D technology and they certainly milked that movie with eventually releasing in 3D on bluray. As a business move it was smart and during that time 3D sets was still fairly new. It has matured to a level where there are less problems. I remember when I got my Samsung C8000 that I had problems with disconnects, crosstalk and ghosting. I was very frustrated with the technology but looked at the positive at the picture being really good.

I can see how somebody can get frustrated as I was once in those shoes but now have fully embraced the technology. I also agree, that 3D is not for everyone especially those who get physically affected by it. I don't allow my kids to watch in 3D and sometimes I have to turn off my system because my 2 year old daughter would come downstairs with her cheap sunglasses on wanting to watch with me. I think that is very cute of her btw.

To the OP,whether you watch movies in 3D or not doesn't really matter, its how you feel. As long as you enjoy the movie for your entertainment is fine but try not to ruin the fun for others who enjoy it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:10 PM   #828
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I'm not throwing out the possibility his post would have been longer if mom didn't come downstairs into the dragon layer and kick him off the internet for the night. Bad facts, opinion based assumptions, trollllly troll gets the cookie for stirring up lots of commotion.

3d has been dead for years, that's why it's still here - duh.
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:09 PM   #829
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I'm not throwing out the possibility his post would have been longer if mom didn't come downstairs into the dragon layer and kick him off the internet for the night. Bad facts, opinion based assumptions, trollllly troll gets the cookie for stirring up lots of commotion.
And headline-jumping (on the Little Mermaid "headline"), like the lil' junior high kids who used to jump on the Internet the same day as a celeb obituary, and make dopey robotic "Whitney Houston, burn in hell" jokes.
Wow, scary to think the 00's forum kids today don't remember the Usenet 90's, just because we all have moderators now to make the old days obsolete.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:52 PM   #830
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To the OP: If you truly feel dizzy and have aching eyes after watching stereoscopic 3D, I would encourage you to have a comprehensive eye exam from a health professional. Sorry that you have had poor 3D experiences in the past and can't enjoy 3D content as much as the rest of us.

It is common for underlying vision problems, sometimes correctable, to become apparent with significant difficulty or discomfort in seeing stereo 3D. The following video is from the American Optometric Association and may be of interest to you.


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Old 01-17-2013, 09:32 PM   #831
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(Uh, before we play To Sir With Love with the OP, Bleed, might want to go back and read the last couple of posts or two...)
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:44 PM   #832
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Oh, well in that case...

I'm a real boy too!
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:10 AM   #833
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To the OP: If you truly feel dizzy and have aching eyes after watching stereoscopic 3D, I would encourage you to have a comprehensive eye exam from a health professional. Sorry that you have had poor 3D experiences in the past and can't enjoy 3D content as much as the rest of us.

It is common for underlying vision problems, sometimes correctable, to become apparent with significant difficulty or discomfort in seeing stereo 3D. The following video is from the American Optometric Association and may be of interest to you.

3Ds of Stereoscopic 3D Viewing - YouTube
Now that is either one desperate attempt or a cheap under the belt shot by you 3D fans to get the rest of us onto our loony bandwagon!
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:15 AM   #834
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And for those whiny people who constantly cry and complain about the glasses, CES was showcasing a couple of Glasses free 3D tv this year. Like this one that's being created by Dolby, the guy says tho there is some 3D effect it's no where near as impressive as Active nor Passive 3D TVs.


This Vizio glasses free 3D one tho was the best rated, I can kind of see some effect here, honestly I still think I'm gonna prefer to stick to Glasses 3D. Once you take away the glasses you might as well be watching the movie in 2D.


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Old 01-18-2013, 05:05 AM   #835
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So that Vizio one essentially works like the 3DS screen (which has multiple 'hot spots' depending on which angle you're looking at the screen from). Having said that, the 3DS doesn't go 2D when you're out of the 'hot spot' - it reverses the image. So that's one good feature I suppose.

Overall though, I think I'll be passing on any TVs that use this tech for glasses-free 3D. I frequently watch 3D movies with a number of people - could you imagine telling them 'okay, so you need to sit here to get the effect, and you over here...'. Maybe even circling some physical spots on your lounge so people know where to sit? Hard pass.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:20 AM   #836
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So that Vizio one essentially works like the 3DS screen (which has multiple 'hot spots' depending on which angle you're looking at the screen from). Having said that, the 3DS doesn't go 2D when you're out of the 'hot spot' - it reverses the image. So that's one good feature I suppose.

Overall though, I think I'll be passing on any TVs that use this tech for glasses-free 3D. I frequently watch 3D movies with a number of people - could you imagine telling them 'okay, so you need to sit here to get the effect, and you over here...'. Maybe even circling some physical spots on your lounge so people know where to sit? Hard pass.
I've never had a 3Ds but supposedly this works by static, instead of head tracking. Still glasses free 3D is not something that's gonna convince me to get rid of my Vizio Passive 3D tv for one of these.

So Yea it's a pass for me also, not to say there isn't a future for glasses free 3D tho. But when they upgrade it to holograms which i think will be next after glasses free 3D, depending on how great it looks now that's what I'll upgrade to.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:53 AM   #837
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I've never had a 3Ds but supposedly this works by static, instead of head tracking. Still glasses free 3D is not something that's gonna convince me to get rid of my Vizio Passive 3D tv for one of these.

So Yea it's a pass for me also, not to say there isn't a future for glasses free 3D tho. But when they upgrade it to holograms which i think will be next after glasses free 3D, depending on how great it looks now that's what I'll upgrade to.
I'm right there with you concerning the holograms. I am waiting for the day of ''fully interactive holograms'' or maybe even ''celebrity holograms''.

Scarlett Johansson every night for this guy,lol.

Getting back to glasses free 3D sets....I was under the impression that one big problem for glasses free 3D is that the viewing ''sweet spot'' is very small and precise. I wont even consider a glasses free set unless they can increase the viewing area of the sweet spot for the 3D. I really dont mind the glasses much at all....hardly notice my Epson 3D glasses. Lightweight, no headaches or eyestrain at all for me.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:35 AM   #838
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I'm right there with you concerning the holograms. I am waiting for the day of ''fully interactive holograms'' or maybe even ''celebrity holograms''.

Scarlett Johansson every night for this guy,lol.

Getting back to glasses free 3D sets....I was under the impression that one big problem for glasses free 3D is that the viewing ''sweet spot'' is very small and precise. I wont even consider a glasses free set unless they can increase the viewing area of the sweet spot for the 3D. I really dont mind the glasses much at all....hardly notice my Epson 3D glasses. Lightweight, no headaches or eyestrain at all for me.
That would be awesome, and if 3D holographic movies could look as good as this Tupac one. that would be great, I almost thought he was still alive looking at this lol.


I don't mind the glasses either and it pisses me off when people constantly complain about them, saying things as it makes the screen look way to dark. It doesn't give me headaches, eye strain or anything at all either, I won't be buying a glasses free 3D tv until it's perfected to looking as good and be as immersive as 3D with the glasses. Which I think will be a couple more years away until they can do that.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:48 PM   #839
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That would be awesome, and if 3D holographic movies could look as good as this Tupac one. that would be great, I almost thought he was still alive looking at this lol.

Tupac Hologram Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre Perform Coachella Live 2012 - YouTube

I don't mind the glasses either and it pisses me off when people constantly complain about them, saying things as it makes the screen look way to dark. It doesn't give me headaches, eye strain or anything at all either, I won't be buying a glasses free 3D tv until it's perfected to looking as good and be as immersive as 3D with the glasses. Which I think will be a couple more years away until they can do that.
That Tupac hologram was FREAKING SWEET AS HELL!! I remember when this hit the web. They need to bring this tech into movies somehow. Imagine a new John Wayne with the benefit of today's script writing. Or music: MJ's last concert could be revived. They have PLENTY of video of Michael's performances that they could produce a great hologram with all his moves in tact.
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I also agree, that 3D is not for everyone especially those who get physically affected by it. I don't allow my kids to watch in 3D and sometimes I have to turn off my system because my 2 year old daughter would come downstairs with her cheap sunglasses on wanting to watch with me. I think that is very cute of her btw.
That is a really cute story about your kid. She may be almost old enough to watch and enjoy 3D with you.

From the American Optometric Association:
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3: At what age can my child view 3D safely?

Vision, including binocular vision, develops from birth. No detrimental effects of viewing 3D have been reported at any age. Parents should note that from 6-12 months of age, basic binocularity is established. By the age of 3 years most children will have binocular vision well enough established to enjoy viewing 3D television, movies or games.

4: How long should children watch 3D television, movies or games?

As with most actives moderation is important. In this case, moderation may be helpful in avoiding behaviors that may lead to unhealthy sedentary lifestyles.

From a developmental vision perspective, establishing time limits makes sense, but need not be different from the same limits placed on the viewing of 2D content. Parents should keep in mind that hand held devices, due to the close proximity of the viewing, place higher demands on the vision system and that more frequent breaks are recommended when using these devices.

5: As a parent should I have concerns about my child viewing 3D television, movies or games and seizures?

For most children this is not a concern.

Parents should note that, children at any age with diagnosed conditions like photosensitive epilepsy (PSE) or for those taking medications that are known to lower seizure thresholds, caution should be used in watching either 2D or 3D television. There is no evidence that the risks of any seizure condition-related episodes are any greater with any method of 3D viewing. Parents should also keep in mind that, as in 2D viewing , the viewing content may be an important factor in an unwanted PSE response.

For information on the viewing recommendations regarding individuals with Photosensitive Epilepsy, see http://www.hardingtest.com/docs/hardingtest.pdf

6: If my child has problems viewing 3D content what should I do?

See your Doctor of Optometry for a comprehensive eye examination.

7: If my child has vision problems that interfere with viewing 3D content can this be treated?

Yes. Treatment often consists of wearing regular glasses, therapy glasses (with prism and multifocal lenses) and/or, Optometric Vision Therapy.


http://3deyehealth.org/faq.html

If you ever decide to try out 3D viewing with her, ask her questions and make sure that she is seeing the 3D properly and comfortably. 3D can sometimes be used to catch amblyopia early.

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