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Old 07-25-2011, 06:37 PM   #421
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New Study shows 3-D may not be good for your eyes:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovat...html?hpt=hp_t2
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:45 PM   #422
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New Study shows 3-D may not be good for your eyes:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovat...html?hpt=hp_t2
New study shows that the problem may be with a persons vision, not the 3D itself.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-problems.html
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:35 AM   #423
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What about the many, MANY people who JUST got their 2d HD tv? What do you say to them? What about people who are poor? What do you say to them?

Most people haven't converted to 2D Blu-Ray yet, let alone 3D Blu-Ray!

The public isn't pleased with rapid changes in anything expensive. They didn't like building a massive VHS collection only to have DVD come along and the same thing with building a massive DVD collection only to have Blu-Ray come along. No store that sells used media is buying VHS. They're worthless now. What do you advise people do with all of their VHS'? Throw them in the garbage? Is there a place in every city and town where you can get your VHS' re-cycled? Will DVD go the same way? Will they be worthless and unsellable some day too? Will 2d Blu-Rays? The length of time between format changes is getting shorter and shorter. Some people don't know what to do, what to put faith and money in. Most people don't have the cash to keep changing every time a new format or technology comes along!

If you truly love movies you won't support 3D!

The move from VHS to DVD was necessary and demanded by the public. The public didn't demand or want or felt they needed 2D Blu-Ray, let alone 3D Blu-Ray!
Ah nobody expects people who just bought HDTVs to buy 3DTVs. 3DTVs are a niche product for savy home theater enthusists who love getting the most out of movies. Your post is horribly ignorant
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:52 AM   #424
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I believe that 3D just makes sense. Evolution granted human beings with depth perception. Some animals have there eyes to the sides of there heads. This gives them a greater feild of vision to spot Predators but gives them poor depth perception. Humans as well as most predatory animals eyes face forward. This gives us a more limited feild of vision but better enables us to properly assign depth to the world. As with anything in evolution there are always tradeoffs. This was a great survival adaption that better enabled our ancient ancesters to survive and thus Natural selection favored those with better depth perception and its this fact that makes 3D relevent

As movies are an illusion that fool our eyes into believing that groups of colored pixels are real objects in front of us. But movies are limited to what the audience can see and taking advantage of the audiences sense. If the audience can't detect it the innovation is useless. Color succeeded because most people see the world in color and color movies greater resemble how most of the audience sees the world than Black and White movies do. The same goes for higher resolution video. The higher the pixel resolution the more lifelike detail can be seen and the more a movie resembles the real world. 3D is just like these previous innovations. Over 90% of people have two properly functioning eyes that give them a greater sense of depth to the real world. 3D movies resemble the way they view the world more greatly than 2D movies do and thats why people like me like 3D

Thats my answer and Im sticking with it
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:09 PM   #425
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Active 3DTVs are the cream of the crop. Sorry, it's not really a smackdown but I could not find fault to my Active 3D. It's the way to live.

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Old 08-01-2011, 02:58 PM   #426
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Active 3DTVs are the cream of the crop. Sorry, it's not really a smackdown but I could not find fault to my Active 3D. It's the way to live.
If active 3DTV's are the cream of the crop then why are sales down and lagging? Best Buy is sayig in their monthly reports that they are having a hell of a time selling 3DTV's. I am glad you like yours but 3D is not the way to live or view movies in my book. But thats just my view.



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Old 08-01-2011, 03:29 PM   #427
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3D is not the way to live or view movies in my book. But thats just my view.
For people who strive to view movies the way the directors originally and artistically intend them to be viewed would be compelled to disagree.
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Old 08-01-2011, 09:34 PM   #428
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If active 3DTV's are the cream of the crop then why are sales down and lagging? Best Buy is sayig in their monthly reports that they are having a hell of a time selling 3DTV's. I am glad you like yours but 3D is not the way to live or view movies in my book. But thats just my view.




Isn't Best Buy just flat out struggling in general against the online market place ? I heard they were downsizing B&M stores and beefing up web sales.

Besides, despite a less than stellar initial response, 3DTVs are still penetrating at an equal rate to other TV innovations. Which means that while the industry's attempt to leverage 3D as a premium product with premium pricing backfired in the short-term, it's still very likely to succeed in the long run. Bet on penetration keeping pace with expanding content and falling prices.

Mostly though, I think 3D is finding it's footing at the grassroots level because early adopters, which usually research and understand their new tech, make much better and convincing guides to the third dimension that the kids in blue shirts.

I've seen my HT convert more than one person to a believer and I highly doubt I'm alone in that.

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Old 08-02-2011, 01:19 PM   #429
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3DTV's may not be selling as good as the vendors would like.

3DTV's may not be "free" for people who qualify as "poor".

But,... It's fun... that's all it needs to be for me.

I can't wait for PotC, Cars 2, Rio, and so many other 3D Blu Rays.

It's fun and for me it doesn't take anything away from non-3D presentations.

-Brian
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:27 AM   #430
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What worries me about 3D at home is are we seeing a deliberate slow roll-out of the technology?

Remember when they introduced digital TV. The manufacturers already had the HD technology, but instead of releasing it with the digital technology, they got everyone to buy a digital TV, then they released HD TVs and made everyone feel their new TV was obsolete and that they HAD to have HD sets.

What I am saying is, is there an ultimate 3D technology waiting in the wings. But the powers-to-be won't release it until everyone has bought the current technology(s).
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Old 08-13-2011, 04:34 AM   #431
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What worries me about 3D at home is are we seeing a deliberate slow roll-out of the technology?

Remember when they introduced digital TV. The manufacturers already had the HD technology, but instead of releasing it with the digital technology, they got everyone to buy a digital TV, then they released HD TVs and made everyone feel their new TV was obsolete and that they HAD to have HD sets.

What I am saying is, is there an ultimate 3D technology waiting in the wings. But the powers-to-be won't release it until everyone has bought the current technology(s).
Conspiratorial nonsense
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:14 PM   #432
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:35 PM   #433
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Let me make it clear

BLU-RAY 3D IS DISPLAY AGNOISTIC

Meaning that it can be adapted to any future 3D display technlogies. Meaning that in terms of 1080p 3D Blu-Ray 3D is the be all and end all. Not that there won't be better 3D technolgies like 4k 3D sometime in the distant future but the idea that they are holding something back from us is absurd
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:46 AM   #434
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3DTV's may not be selling as good as the vendors would like.

3DTV's may not be "free" for people who qualify as "poor".

But,... It's fun... that's all it needs to be for me.

I can't wait for PotC, Cars 2, Rio, and so many other 3D Blu Rays.

It's fun and for me it doesn't take anything away from non-3D presentations.

-Brian
I really wouldn't get too excited and say "so many other 3D blu-rays"...

In reality there aren't that many. I mean PotC, Thor, and the Disneys and that's about it.
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:19 AM   #435
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I really wouldn't get too excited and say "so many other 3D blu-rays"...

In reality there aren't that many. I mean PotC, Thor, and the Disneys and that's about it.
[Show spoiler]The Nightmare Before Christmas
Megamind
Monsters vs. Aliens
HTTY dragon
Thor
Chicken Little
G-Force
Meet The Robinsons
Transformers 3
Pirates of the Carribean
The Lion King
Beauty and the Beast
Harry Potter
Green Lantern
Bolt


Those are actual full length movies

For IMAX,etc

Safari Africa

There will probably be more titles announced for release in 2011.

Sure, thats not alot of movies compared to 2D blu rays. But for 3D that is alot.
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:32 AM   #436
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[Show spoiler]The Nightmare Before Christmas
Megamind
Monsters vs. Aliens
HTTY dragon
Thor
Chicken Little
G-Force
Meet The Robinsons
Transformers 3
Pirates of the Carribean
The Lion King
Beauty and the Beast
Harry Potter
Green Lantern
Bolt


Those are actual full length movies

For IMAX,etc

Safari Africa

There will probably be more titles announced for release in 2011.

Sure, thats not alot of movies compared to 2D blu rays. But for 3D that is alot.
Great year for 3D!
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:45 AM   #437
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I really wouldn't get too excited and say "so many other 3D blu-rays"...

In reality there aren't that many. I mean PotC, Thor, and the Disneys and that's about it.
Kung Fu Panda 2
Green Lantern
Harry Potter Deathly Hollows Part 2
Transformers 3
Smurfs
Captain America
Final Destination 5
Conan the Barbarian
Glee
Spy Kids 4
Fright Night
Shark Night

and coming up very soon

Tin Tin
Puss In Boots
Hugo
Piranha 2
Underworld 4
The Amazing Spider-man
Men In Black 3

And 2012 has at least 3 3D releases every month of the year in the theaters which means 3D Blu-ray releases every month of the year well into 2013.


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Sure, thats not alot of movies compared to 2D blu rays. But for 3D that is alot.
But let's not forget that during the first few years of Blu-ray's infancy, there weren't nearly as many titles being released in 2D as there are now.

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Old 08-17-2011, 05:14 AM   #438
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But let's not forget that during the first few years of Blu-ray's infancy, there weren't nearly as many titles being released in 2D as there are now.
Its not quite the same thing. When it comes to Blu-Ray most movies were originally shot on film or high definition video and thus already existed in high definition before Blu-Ray came out.

3D on the other hand is not so simple. The vast majority of movies were shot in 2D and I highly doubt that most 2D catalogs will ever come to Blu-Ray 3D. Since it costs $150,000 per minute to properly convert live action the 3D market will need to expand dramatically for 3D conversions to be worth there cost. If were lucky I suspect really big catalogs if there filmmakers approve may be converted to 3D but for smaller known titles you may treasure I doubt it will ever happen
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Old 08-17-2011, 03:40 PM   #439
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Its not quite the same thing. When it comes to Blu-Ray most movies were originally shot on film or high definition video and thus already existed in high definition before Blu-Ray came out.

3D on the other hand is not so simple. The vast majority of movies were shot in 2D and I highly doubt that most 2D catalogs will ever come to Blu-Ray 3D. Since it costs $150,000 per minute to properly convert live action the 3D market will need to expand dramatically for 3D conversions to be worth there cost. If were lucky I suspect really big catalogs if there filmmakers approve may be converted to 3D but for smaller known titles you may treasure I doubt it will ever happen
You may have misunderstood my statement. I wasn't talking about 2D to 3D conversions. I was talking about the small amount of title availability when a new technology is still in its infancy. People point out that there are few 3D titles currently available but forget that there were also very few titles being released during the first few years after Blu-ray was launched - even after the format war.
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:41 PM   #440
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A format will not be successful without a strong catalog. 3D conversion is costly so mostly only recently filmed movies will be released in 3D. There will, of course, be exceptions but without a strong catalog 3D will not take off. Right now it is still novelty/gimmick status. If 3D filming retains its support from its stakeholder's (10 years from now?) there should be enough titles to warrant the change over. Until it actually happens it will just be a novelty/gimmick.

Just mine opinion
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