The Hobbit Trilogy Discussion Thread

[frogmort]

Me and my friends have been planning on seeing this in the 3D 48fps, but I'm starting to have second thoughts about it, and I'm wondering if we should just see it in 2D 24fps.

[Witch King of Angmar]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

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Did anybody watch that 'Goblin Chase' clip?

I LOVED that shot of all those goblins

[Show spoiler]doing that Tarzan swing and getting all wound up.

That's my favorite shot so far. Had an unexpected very good chuckle from that. I think that I am going to dig this movie.

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I also loved that clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyrCk...ature=youtu.be

[ChristmasFnatic]

You guys watching in 48fps?

Already bought my tickets for IMAX, and learned its not in 48fps, so I have to rewatch it if I want it.

[Witch King of Angmar]

Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic

You guys watching in 48fps?

Already bought my tickets for IMAX, and learned its not in 48fps, so I have to rewatch it if I want it.

Offtopic:

Are you the same ChristmasFnatic who is in Bodybuilding(WWE) forum?

[antmumford]

I'm gonna have to see it twice because my partner wants to see it at the Crawley Cineworld Lie-Max and I want to watch it in HFR 3D. Was hoping the Crawley Lie-Max would be HFR but according to this email that may now not be the case. Won't know until maybe only 2 days before it's released. Nice way to secure the fans who want to see HFR3D Cineworld.

Dear Mr Mumford,

Thank you for contacting Cineworld.

In regards to your enquiry, we have received a limited number of versions of ‘The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey’ in the 48fps format and as such not all screens (including IMAX) within our Cinemas will be able to have a copy upon release.

Currently the decision has not been made as to which Cinemas will have this for the initial launch as we are still in discussions with the films distributors.

We currently run updates on the website every Tuesday afternoon for film times for the next 7 to 9 days and supply any new information for future date.

I would recommend checking the website or calling us at Customer Services on the number below on the 11th of December for the most up to date information regarding this launch.

I do hope this is of help to you and should you have any further queries please feel free to contact our Customer Services on 0844 815 7747.

Kind regards

Scott Hardie
Customer Services

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic

You guys watching in 48fps?

Already bought my tickets for IMAX, and learned its not in 48fps, so I have to rewatch it if I want it.

12th - 2D
14th - 3D
16th - full IMAX 3D
20th - HFR 3D

Those are my plans

[beadelf]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

If I were to see The Hobbit (which I won't), I would see it in IMAX 3D.

[Rainhurt]

So can Blu-Ray 3D do more than 24p or 30p? Is this something I have no choice but to go to a cinema to see if I want to watch it in its intended format for the foreseeable future?

[Brightstar]

Fans have been complaining about the hobbit after seeing it in 3D they said they where feeling sick and dizzy after the movie becouse it was shot at 48fps

[Mahatma]

Originally Posted by Rainhurt

So can Blu-Ray 3D do more than 24p or 30p? Is this something I have no choice but to go to a cinema to see if I want to watch it in its intended format for the foreseeable future?

Not an expert,but since they are using innovative in the promotion,I guess you'll either have to go to the cinema,or wait a few years until TV's get that technology

I'm kind of curious to see the forum members here reaction to the movie once it gets out...

[Josh]

Originally Posted by Rainhurt

So can Blu-Ray 3D do more than 24p or 30p? Is this something I have no choice but to go to a cinema to see if I want to watch it in its intended format for the foreseeable future?

Technically...

All 240Hz HDTVs should be able to handle 48p content. HDMI standard doesn't include a 48p resolution, but it does support 60p, so it should be more than capable. And the current Blu-ray spec also does not include 48p resolution.

Blu-ray would be biggest challenge since you would require roughly twice the storage to do the same length of movie. Obviously, a 3-4 hour film is already pushing the capabilities of the format, so the only choice would be to either split the film into two parts (like the DVD) or increase the size of the disc. The later is available, its just a matter of implementing the change.

[Josh]

Notice
I have established a review thread which can be found here:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=210276

Please use this thread to post your review of An Unexpected Journey only. Continue to use this thread to discuss the next two films. Use the film vs. movie thread to discuss those topics. Thanks.

[jbig31]

Not to sound dense, but what exactly is this "soap opera" look?

[Col. Zombie]

Originally Posted by jbig31

Not to sound dense, but what exactly is this "soap opera" look?

The "soap opera" or "documentary" look is being used by folks to describe the amount of clarity and just the general look of the 48fps presentation of the Hobbit.

You know, how "soap operas" and documentaries look more "realistic" (for lack of a better term) without all the "grain" and "fluff" you see in film.

[Fred Bang]

I wonder if people with LEDs accustomed to the "TrueMotion" effect will be more receptive to the 48 fps. For my part, I own a Samsung LCD and put the dejudder halfway so it's not too "soap opera" looking, but high enough to make think that 24 fps is too stuttery.

[BladeRunner2007]

The official runtime is 166 min. according to IMDb. At 48fps that is. So, at 24fps it should be even longer, right?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

The official runtime is 166 min. according to IMDb. At 48fps that is. So, at 24fps it should be even longer, right?

No, they just convert it down to 24fps.

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

No, they just convert it down to 24fps.

NTSC is 30fps whereas PAL is 25fps. PAL runs 4% faster. That's why I thought it would be the same for 24fps and 48fps.

[jbig31]

Originally Posted by Col. Zombie

The "soap opera" or "documentary" look is being used by folks to describe the amount of clarity and just the general look of the 48fps presentation of the Hobbit.

You know, how "soap operas" and documentaries look more "realistic" (for lack of a better term) without all the "grain" and "fluff" you see in film.

Thanks. I guess I can see how there could be a difference in the look when you put it like that. We are seeing it in 24fps 2D on opening night. Like others have posted, I'm comfortable to see it that way first, then possibly see it in 48fps for my second viewing.

[toddly6666]

It seems like this 48fps + 3D is an experience, but sounds like an inconsistent mish-mosh experience. The main factor I enjoy when watching a film is consistency with how things look, the same goes for when I wake up in the morning and open my eyes until I go to bed. I don't want to walk around all day and see things in an inconsistent way which could resemble the experience of someone with an eye disorder/ailment.

What is the benefit of seeing something super crisp and clear and with 3D effects when merged with a soap opera look, costumes/makeup/sets being more obvious, green screen/CGI being more obvious?