The Hobbit Trilogy Discussion Thread

[Lnds500]

The preview is now online on various places

[Blu Ian]

hehe

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

The preview is now online on various places

Found the Gandalf/Radagast scene via a website from a certain lard-arsed film journalist who should have known better. Enjoyed the scene, looking forward to the teaser dropping some time this summer.

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by TheWildWhelk

Found the Gandalf/Radagast scene via a website from a certain lard-arsed film journalist who should have known better. Enjoyed the scene, looking forward to the teaser dropping some time this summer.

Gandalf is my favourite character so that was the best bit about the preview for me. Really looking forward to the rest.

[tommyboy81]

[FREYMAX 3D]

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

[Show spoiler]

[KingRad]

I finally got around to watching the Desolation of Smaug live event, and it has me so ecstatic for the next film!

[Duffy12]

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And around around it goes.........

Will it ever end?

Tolkien Estate Challenges Warner Bros.' 'Patently Absurd' 'Hobbit' Countersuit

10:02 AM PDT 3/29/2013 by Eriq Gardner



The heated lawsuit explores who holds lucrative game rights.


The estate of author J.R.R. Tolkien is testing the principle, "You can't be sued for suing."

In November, the estate and book publisher HarperCollins filed an $80 million lawsuit against Warner Bros., its New Line subsidiary and Saul Zaentz Co. -- which holds the rights to The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings -- looking for a federal judge to declare that the defendants had overstepped their rights by looking to exploit Hobbit/Rings online slot machines and games.

Earlier this month, Warner Bros. brought counterclaims that allege the Tolkien estate's "repudiation" of contractual rights has cost Warners to miss out on millions of dollars of licensing opportunities.

On Thursday, the estate asked a judge to dismiss Warners' move, saying the studio is attempting to dress up an inappropriate claim for malicious prosecution.

When it comes down to it, the latest scuffle is over a single word: repudiation.

Warner Bros., represented by attorney Daniel Petrocelli, says it and Zaentz are the successors-in-interest to merchandising and other rights to Hobbit and Lord of the Rings from a United Artist agreement from 1969. Together, the studios say they have been exploiting the rights for decades and that 16 years ago, Zaentz's rights to online video games were confirmed. Now, there allegedly has been an about-face.

Whether or not that's true, the estate, represented by attorney Bonnie Eskenazi, believes that the objectionable activity "springs from an attempt to enforce the relevant contract," not to repudiate it.

The estate compares how the original counterclaims from January differ from what is now being asserted. Here's a look at the side-by-side language:





The problem, as Eskenazi spells out in her motion to dismiss (read in full here), is that communications made in anticipation of litigation are privileged and can't serve as the basis for a claim. Eskenazi says she brought up the alleged defect in response to the January counterclaims, and as a cure, Warner Bros. simply replaced "challenging Warner's exploitation" to "repudiation."

EXCLUSIVE: Warner Bros. Claims Tolkien Estate Breached 'Hobbit' Contract

She says that Warners' "patently absurd" breach-of-contract claim is "is really nothing more than a thinly veiled, deficient claim for malicious prosecution," which can be brought if Tolkien has made a "bad faith" lawsuit against Warners, but not at this early stage.

The Tolkien estate also says there has been no repudiation -- that there hasn't been any allegation that it has failed to perform its legal obligations. The fight, says the estate, is just about the "scope" of contractual rights. "Put another way, the Warner Parties have sued the Tolkien/HC Parties simply for suing them," says the motion to dismiss.

The Hollywood Reporter has reached out to Warner Bros., and if the studio has anything to say, we'll update.


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...er-bros-431720

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[TheWildWhelk]

Jackson has updated his Facebook page with an excerpt from the Desolation Of Smaug preview. Some nice stuff on there, and i like the gag from the Colbert Report.

[Buddy Ackerman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvF8bpowywI

It has a couple of tweaks from the original version to include a couple of April Fool's Day Easter eggs - when Jabez grabs the mug from the shelf we see

[Show spoiler]a script for The Silmarillion on the shelf

. Also, when Jackson grabs the Mirkwood concept art,

[Show spoiler]a script for Star Wars Episode VIII falls out

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[Foggy]

When are we getting a proper trailer for this damn it!

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

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And around around it goes.........

Will it ever end?

I hope the Tolkien estate charbroils WB and Zaentz on this.

[yeslek]

summer according to Jackson

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Foggy

When are we getting a proper trailer for this damn it!

Here you go bud.

The presentation concluded with a special message from Peter Jackson, apologizing for not having completed footage from The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, but teasing some behind-the-scenes shots (including glimpses of Orlando Bloom's return as Legolas and Evangeline Lilly's debut as Tauriel). Jackson also noted that the film's first trailer should be ready in the next few weeks.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/cinem....php?id=103104

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[Cook]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Here you go bud.





http://www.comingsoon.net/news/cinem....php?id=103104

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If I had to make a guess. The trailer will be with Man of Steel.

[Josh]

If only to get a new version of The Balad of Bilbo Baggins:

Zachary Quinto vs. Leonard Nimoy: "The Challenge" - YouTube

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Here you go bud.





http://www.comingsoon.net/news/cinem....php?id=103104

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Its been a few weeks where is the damn trailer lol

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by R3P0

Its been a few weeks where is the damn trailer lol

Enhance Your Calm, R3P0, it's easy enough to guess when it will drop; look out for Warner's tentpole film of the summer and anticipate seeing it attached to that. Thus, Man Of Steel, in all likeliness.

By the way, who thinks that Desolation will end on a cliffhanger, unlike any of the LotR films? I don't see a 'break point' with the book, unlike where An Unexpected Journey chose to wrap up...

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by R3P0

Its been a few weeks where is the damn trailer lol

[Duffy12]

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Pick up filming has begun! And – might we get to see Aragorn…?

May 14, 2013 at 11:06 pm by greendragon -

aragorn prancing ponyOur good friends over at our partner site Tolkiendrim.com reported here that shooting of pick ups for the next two Hobbit movies begins on May 15th – that’s already today in many parts of the world! And a good part of ‘today’ has already passed in New Zealand – so we’re assuming that filming is already underway. Shooting is scheduled to continue until the end of July.

Of course, the question we’re all pondering is: what scenes will be slated for this period of filming? We already know that 3 foot 7 were looking to cast extras with ‘character faces’, as described in their ad, here. Spanish Tolkien site elanillounico.com and French site Tolkiendrim.com both report that, apparently, these extras are sought for scenes which will take place in Bree; which of course does seem to fit with a need for character faces.

And this is where the wild speculation begins – get ready, because we’re guessing outside the box here! What scenes for The Hobbit movies might be set in Bree? Surely there is no need for An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition material to take us back to Bree on the journey of Bilbo and the dwarves? More interestingly, perhaps it could be a flashback to Gandalf and Thorin’s first meeting on the road, when they passed a night at Bree, as described in The Quest for Erebor? What important information might the film makers wish to disclose in such a scene – more about the back story of Azanulbizar and the disappearance of Thorin’s father, Thrain?

In their article, our French friends go even further and speculate that this may be a chance for some of the oft discussed ’bridge’ material between the stories of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. Perhaps we will get to see Aragorn and Gandalf meeting in Bree, during Aragorn’s ranging days in the North, before the beginning of the hunt for Gollum. Viggo Mortensen only recently stated again, this time to Total Film magazine, that he would be keen to play a role in The Hobbit trilogy. He is reported here as having said, ‘Would I play Aragorn again? Sure, if it seemed sensible to do so. He’s not in the book of The Hobbit, but if they’re working with the appendices they may be intending to bridge the 60-year Hobbit/The Lord of the Rings gap.’ Mortensen went on to say, ‘I think I would have heard by now so I have to assume [not]… But Peter Jackson is famous for his reshoots, so you never know!’

Now that is something exciting to think about. Total idle speculation of course; we don’t even know for sure that scenes ARE being filmed in Bree. But it’s fun to dream of a little glimpse of Strider….

Thanks to our friends at Tolkiendrim.com for their report!

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013...o-see-aragorn/

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