The Hobbit Trilogy Discussion Thread

[Shin sam]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Ah. Did not know that. I've only read The Hobbit once, and never any of the other bits of Middle Earth (aside from LotR) that Tolkien created. So Sauron tried to rebuild in Mirkwood first? Did Gandalf and the others of the White Counsel know this necromancer was Sauron? How did he take physical form, in a possessed body (ala Voldemort hitchhiking on the back of a Hogwarts instructor)? Or was he just a zombie because Ash didn't say the words correctly?

I'm not sure if they knew it was Sauron, I dont think so. I'll have to re-read! As for him taking a physical form, he didn't. But I think Shelob was one or an offspring of the Mirkwood spiders and she went with him into the east, so he was not alone.

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by Shin sam

But I think Shelob was one or an offspring of the Mirkwood spiders and she went with him into the east, so he was not alone.

Shelob was a daughter of Ungoliant and she took up residence in the mountains near Mordor before Sauron was there. She neither worked for, nor against Sauron; the two simply for the most part used each other to survive.

As for the necromancer...

[Show spoiler]Gandalf had long suspected that the Necromancer to be Sauron trying to re-take physical form however he was unable to sway the White Council into action; finally Gandalf enters Dol Guldur to confirm his suspicion and again plead to the White Council to take action. However due to Saruman seeking the One Ring (and hoping Sauron's return would awaken the ring that the ring would start to seek it's master and thus he (Saruman) could make a claim for it) he prevented the White Council from attacking Dol Guldur. Eventually many (90ish i think) that the council finally attacks and drives the Necromancer out.

[Darkhawk9587]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Dwarf Composite from Peter Jackson!

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Awesome. Purely awesome.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Velmeran

Shelob was a daughter of Ungoliant and she took up residence in the mountains near Mordor before Sauron was there. She neither worked for, nor against Sauron; the two simply for the most part used each other to survive.

As for the necromancer...

[Show spoiler]Gandalf had long suspected that the Necromancer to be Sauron trying to re-take physical form however he was unable to sway the White Council into action; finally Gandalf enters Dol Guldur to confirm his suspicion and again plead to the White Council to take action. However due to Saruman seeking the One Ring (and hoping Sauron's return would awaken the ring that the ring would start to seek it's master and thus he (Saruman) could make a claim for it) he prevented the White Council from attacking Dol Guldur. Eventually many (90ish i think) that the council finally attacks and drives the Necromancer out.

Later in the LOTR book, Gandalf states that Sauron withdrew from Dol Guldur as a feint because he really intended to go back to Mordor. In other words, Sauron didn't really fight back when the White Council comes against him. It will be interesting to see how the movie portrays this. Will Sauron fight back, so we can have a really long battle? After all there are video game sales and action figure sales to consider.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Dwarf Composite from Peter Jackson!

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Which one is Balin? I know someone is going to say out loud in the theatre "That's the one who went to Moria and died and Gimli found his tomb."

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Brodo Faggins

Anyone know where I can download the production diaries, preferably in HD?

If you have Real Player, at least one of the newer versions, what you do is go to his facebook page and click on the link to open it up in a new window. Then as its playing click the HD button on the bottom of the video, this will bring it up in 720p I think (may be 1080, I don't know). Then real player will pop up at the top of the video and ask if you want to download, just click that and it will download the video in MPEG-4 format. I do that and load em onto my PS3... its BADASS

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Fors*

Has anyone seen these stills yet, I don't seem to see these posted here.....

http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/49...024053789.html

http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/49...024101523.html

http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/49...024059820.html

Anyone know where to find these pics in High Quality, like the Dwarf Composite that Duffy posted here... I would really like to use these for something but these pics really aren't good enough quality...

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Dwarf Composite from Peter Jackson!

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[DarkDune]

I am reading The Hobbit to my 6 year-old now. It will be a blast to take him to the movie when it comes out

Anyone else wonder if the actor's playing the dwarves will "hate" their make-up like Gimli (John Rhys-Davies) did?!?!

John had TERRIBLE topical eczema with THAT make-up!

[DarkDune]

Originally Posted by radagast

Which one is Balin? I know someone is going to say out loud in the theatre "That's the one who went to Moria and died and Gimli found his tomb."

From the "Dwarves Photo Album" on Facebook:

DORI, NORI, AND ORI

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These three brothers, all sons of the same mother, could not be more different from each other. Dori, the oldest, spends much of his time watching out for Ori, the youngest; making sure he’s not caught a chill or got himself killed by Wargs or Goblins. Nobody quite knows what Nori gets up to most of the time, except that it’s guaranteed to be dodgy and quite probably, illegal. Dori, Nori and Ori are intensely loyal to each other – and whilst they are perfectly happy fighting amongst themselves, woe-betide anyone who means harm to one of these brothers.

OIN & GLOIN

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Distant cousins of Thorin Oakenshield, these two doughty Northern Dwarves join the Company out of a sense of loyalty to their kin, and also because they have a substantial sum of money invested in the venture. Along with Bombur, Gloin is the only other married Dwarf in the Company (there being a shortage of female dwarves in general). His wife is an acclaimed beauty with a particularly fine beard. Gloin is the proud father of a young son, Gimli, who will go on to become part of the famous Fellowship of the Ring.

FILI & KILI

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Two of the youngest Dwarves, Fili and Kili have been born into the royal line of Durin and raised under the stern guardianship of their uncle, Thorin Oakensheild. Neither has ever travelled far, nor ever seen the fabled Dwarf City of Erebor. For both, the journey to the Lonely Mountain represents adventure and excitement. Skilled fighters, both brothers set off on their adventure armed with the invincible courage of youth, neither being able to imagine the fate which lies before them.

BOFUR, BOMBUR & BIFUR

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While most of the Company of Thorin Oakensheild is related to the royal and noble line of Durin, Bofur, his brother Bombur and their cousin Bifur most definitely are…not. Born and bred in the West, descendants of coal miners and iron workers, they have joined the Quest for the Lonely Mountain partly to seek their fortune and partly because they were told the beer was free.

THORIN OAKENSHEILD

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As a young Dwarf prince, Thorin witnessed the destruction and terror wrought when a great fire-breathing Dragon attacked the Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor. After slaughtering many of Thorin’s kin, the great serpent, Smaug, entered The Lonely Mountain and took possession of its vast store of gold and jewels. No-one came to the aid of the surviving Dwarves, and thus, a once proud and noble race was forced into exile. Through long years of hardship, Thorin grew to be a strong and fearless fighter and revered leader. In his heart a fierce desire grew; a desire to reclaim his homeland and destroy the beast that had brought such misery upon his people. So when fate offers him an unusual ally, he seizes the chance for revenge.

BALIN AND DWALIN

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[DarkDune]

Man!

How are they ALL gonna fit in that Hobbit-hole under The Hill?!?!



JED BROPHY as Nori, DEAN O’GORMAN as Fili, MARK HADLOW as Dori, JAMES NESBITT as Bofur, PETER HAMBLETON as Gloin, GRAHAM McTAVISH as Dwalin, RICHARD ARMITAGE as Thorin Oakenshield (center), KEN STOTT as Balin, JOHN CALLEN as Oin, STEPHEN HUNTER as Bombur, WILLIAM KIRCHER as Bifur, ADAM BROWN as Ori and AIDAN TURNER as Kili in New Line Cinema’s and MGM's fantasy adventure THE HOBBIT: AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY, a Warner Bros. Pictures release. Photo by James Fisher.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Ah. Did not know that. I've only read The Hobbit once, and never any of the other bits of Middle Earth (aside from LotR) that Tolkien created. So Sauron tried to rebuild in Mirkwood first? Did Gandalf and the others of the White Counsel know this necromancer was Sauron? How did he take physical form, in a possessed body (ala Voldemort hitchhiking on the back of a Hogwarts instructor)? Or was he just a zombie because Ash didn't say the words correctly?

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by DarkDune

Man!

How are they ALL gonna fit in that Hobbit-hole under The Hill?!?!

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JED BROPHY as Nori, DEAN O’GORMAN as Fili, MARK HADLOW as Dori, JAMES NESBITT as Bofur, PETER HAMBLETON as Gloin, GRAHAM McTAVISH as Dwalin, RICHARD ARMITAGE as Thorin Oakenshield (center), KEN STOTT as Balin, JOHN CALLEN as Oin, STEPHEN HUNTER as Bombur, WILLIAM KIRCHER as Bifur, ADAM BROWN as Ori and AIDAN TURNER as Kili in New Line Cinema’s and MGM's fantasy adventure THE HOBBIT: AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY, a Warner Bros. Pictures release. Photo by James Fisher.

Seriously... I can already tell that my fave in this movie is gonna be Dwalin... man that dude looks HARSH!!!

[DarkDune]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

Seriously... I can already tell that my fave in this movie is gonna be Dwalin... man that dude looks HARSH!!!

Yeah. His skull is HIS HELMET!

Dang!

[DarkDune]

Just saw all three production diaries, and MAN!

These movies will be AWESOME!

And the Dwarves ROCK!

[Blu-Benny]

oh man....the more i look @ that pic of all the dwarves the more excited i get for this!!!

[Witch King of Angmar]

How is balin cousin to gimli when fundin(father of balin) and groin lol(gimli's grandfather) were brothers?

[goresnet]

^ second cousin?

[Amrak]

Originally Posted by DarkDune

Man!

How are they ALL gonna fit in that Hobbit-hole under The Hill?!?!
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Must.... Resist....

[radagast]

A U.S. Senator angrily called the Tea Party folks "Tea Party Hobbits".

No political arguing please. But "Tea Party Hobbits" sounds pretty normal. At least every day around 4 in the afternoon.

[Barbossa]

Originally Posted by Amrak

Must.... Resist....

I'm guessing that Bilbo's hole must be really, REALLY big ..........