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paidgeek · 01-27-2007, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

What do you think of the SXRD sets relative to the XBR3 Bravias?

My impression is that the SXRDs still provide the best black levels of any tech short of CRT (direct/RPTV/FPTV).

Gary

These two sets are better suited for different environments. If I was regularly watching movies in a dark or semi-darkened room, I would definitely go with the SXRD. If the room is usually bright and the monitor will be used during the day, the LCD can punch through all that ambient light better.

JBlacklow · 01-27-2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by paidgeek

These two sets are better suited for different environments. If I was regularly watching movies in a dark or semi-darkened room, I would definitely go with the SXRD. If the room is usually bright and the monitor will be used during the day, the LCD can punch through all that ambient light better.

My Sony KDS-50A2000 is an SXRD, and I have no problems with high ambient light, and my set is definitely not set to "torch" mode. It's calibrated for each individual input, with the best tools a non-professional calibrator can use.

goodstuff · 01-28-2007, 01:52 PM

paidgeek, just a quick question on BD-J. The Guardian has an interactive feature on The Guardian that is listed as only compatible on the PS3 and PC players. Is it possible for future firmware updates to allow this to be played back on standalone players like my Panny?

dobyblue · 01-29-2007, 01:52 PM

paidgeek, can you comment a little more on the Neilsen numbers you stated in the insiders thread on AVS that have Blu-ray ahead since Dec 24th.

Can you share any of those numbers or is there anywhere that actually has those numbers available for the public to see?

JTK · 01-29-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

paidgeek, can you comment a little more on the Neilsen numbers you stated in the insiders thread on AVS that have Blu-ray ahead since Dec 24th.

Can you share any of those numbers or is there anywhere that actually has those numbers available for the public to see?

^^ Hand in glove with this: The WSJ reported a couple of weeks ago that HD-DVD was outselling BD roughly 2:1 BEFORE the PS3 launched, but ever since the PS3 launched that gap "has been closing steadily ever since."

Any kind of illumination on that would be appreciated.

blitz6speed · 01-29-2007, 04:37 PM

Paidgeek

Microsoft went overseas to companys like Studio Canal and others all over the world who owned rights to BD only movies to publish HD-DVD movies in territories HD-DVD has no chance in, just so it has an argument for movies from BD studios avail on their format. Can sony not do the same? Why not go around and find out who owns a large chunk of Universal movies (like Jurrasic Park, E.T., Back To The Future, etc) from say Afghanistan (just an example lol) and help them make BD50 MPEG2/PCM releases and just let people import them to strike back? Is this not feasible? Is it already being done? Thanks.

Chris Beveridge · 01-29-2007, 05:23 PM

Paidgeek,

I may have missed this one in either insiders thread, but with the news out of France regarding HD DVD releases via Warner and their IME plans, is there anything about this particular feature that can be talked about in more general terms in regards to being fully implemented in BD?

JTK · 01-29-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

Paidgeek,

I may have missed this one in either insiders thread, but with the news out of France regarding HD DVD releases via Warner and their IME plans, is there anything about this particular feature that can be talked about in more general terms in regards to being fully implemented in BD?

Is that this?: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=5353

Chris Beveridge · 01-29-2007, 05:35 PM

Yep. There have been posts at one point or another that various Warner titles were being held back until they could replicate the IME features in BD. With Warner going strong into the second half of 2007 via HD DVD in terms of key titles, the sooner these features are available the better of course. This is especially true in the US where TotalHD is their plan and most of their releases will be in that format. Would they just excise it? I know paidgeek can't answer that, but I'm really wondering what's still hindering true IME-like capability.

Is it in the authoring side? Or the hardware side?

paidgeek · 01-30-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by goodstuff

paidgeek, just a quick question on BD-J. The Guardian has an interactive feature on The Guardian that is listed as only compatible on the PS3 and PC players. Is it possible for future firmware updates to allow this to be played back on standalone players like my Panny?

It is not likely that this will play on anything but a PS3 as Disney designed it specifically for that platform.

paidgeek · 01-30-2007, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JTK

^^ Hand in glove with this: The WSJ reported a couple of weeks ago that HD-DVD was outselling BD roughly 2:1 BEFORE the PS3 launched, but ever since the PS3 launched that gap "has been closing steadily ever since."

Any kind of illumination on that would be appreciated.

BD was not outselling HD-DVD in the US until after the PS3 launched. I can't post a copy of the report here as it is a subscribed service, but you'll be glad to know that week over week, the gap in sales with HD-DVD is growing. Last week it was around 3 to 1.

paidgeek · 01-30-2007, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blitz6speed

Paidgeek

Microsoft went overseas to companys like Studio Canal and others all over the world who owned rights to BD only movies to publish HD-DVD movies in territories HD-DVD has no chance in, just so it has an argument for movies from BD studios avail on their format. Can sony not do the same? Why not go around and find out who owns a large chunk of Universal movies (like Jurrasic Park, E.T., Back To The Future, etc) from say Afghanistan (just an example lol) and help them make BD50 MPEG2/PCM releases and just let people import them to strike back? Is this not feasible? Is it already being done? Thanks.

This is in the works. You are right in that HD-DVD has been trying to make inroads in Europe, but the hammer is about to drop...PS3 in March....

paidgeek · 01-30-2007, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

Paidgeek,

I may have missed this one in either insiders thread, but with the news out of France regarding HD DVD releases via Warner and their IME plans, is there anything about this particular feature that can be talked about in more general terms in regards to being fully implemented in BD?

Interactive features are being rolled out slowly on BD because, frankly, we are still coming to grips with what the players can do with their current versions of firmware. With Toshiba and MS, you don't have as much variability in the player implementations. Not to worry, by later this year, it will be sorted out.

phloyd · 01-30-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by paidgeek

Interactive features are being rolled out slowly on BD because, frankly, we are still coming to grips with what the players can do with their current versions of firmware. With Toshiba and MS, you don't have as much variability in the player implementations.

This was something that many on the AVS don't seem to get. HD DVD hardware is all Toshiba/Microsoft. That makes keeping the feature set consistant so much easier.

And yet they still release relatively crappy hardware...

Rob Tomlin · 01-30-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by paidgeek

BD was not outselling HD-DVD in the US until after the PS3 launched. I can't post a copy of the report here as it is a subscribed service, but you'll be glad to know that week over week, the gap in sales with HD-DVD is growing. Last week it was around 3 to 1.

GoldenRedux · 01-30-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

I'll second that

JTK · 01-30-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRedux

I'll second that

The WSJ thirds that first part about two weeks ago, so here I am with:

Paidgeek: BD is outselling HD-DVD 3:1? If that trend holds AT ALL, I just cannot see how Universal doesn't get ready shift gears before long and we get this nonsense done with!

This kind of information needs to make it out to the press!

Rob Tomlin · 01-30-2007, 06:37 PM

That 3:1 ratio will make more of an impact as the HD disc formats, as a whole, become more successful.

I.e., the more discs that are actually sold, the harder it will be for Universal to stay exclusive to HD-DVD.

I don't know if paidgeek can post actual sales numbers per title, but that is the stat that I would really like to see. I'm sure the figures are still miniscule compared to DVD.

partridge · 01-30-2007, 06:40 PM

...and just wait till a million PS3's arrive in Europe, just in time for Mr Bond on Blu-Ray.

Oh yes!

JTK · 01-30-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by partridge

...and just wait till a million PS3's arrive in Europe, just in time for Mr Bond on Blu-Ray.

Oh yes!

Damned skippy.

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01-28-2007, 01:52 PM	#223
goodstuff Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2006 4K collection:509 Blu-ray collection:6535 Blu-ray reviews: 85 Trading Score:6	paidgeek, just a quick question on BD-J. The Guardian has an interactive feature on The Guardian that is listed as only compatible on the PS3 and PC players. Is it possible for future firmware updates to allow this to be played back on standalone players like my Panny?

01-29-2007, 01:52 PM	#224
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	paidgeek, can you comment a little more on the Neilsen numbers you stated in the insiders thread on AVS that have Blu-ray ahead since Dec 24th. Can you share any of those numbers or is there anywhere that actually has those numbers available for the public to see?

01-29-2007, 04:37 PM	#226
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	Paidgeek Microsoft went overseas to companys like Studio Canal and others all over the world who owned rights to BD only movies to publish HD-DVD movies in territories HD-DVD has no chance in, just so it has an argument for movies from BD studios avail on their format. Can sony not do the same? Why not go around and find out who owns a large chunk of Universal movies (like Jurrasic Park, E.T., Back To The Future, etc) from say Afghanistan (just an example lol) and help them make BD50 MPEG2/PCM releases and just let people import them to strike back? Is this not feasible? Is it already being done? Thanks.

01-29-2007, 05:23 PM	#227
Chris Beveridge Moderator Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Hudson, MA Blu-ray reviews:3	Paidgeek, I may have missed this one in either insiders thread, but with the news out of France regarding HD DVD releases via Warner and their IME plans, is there anything about this particular feature that can be talked about in more general terms in regards to being fully implemented in BD?

01-29-2007, 05:35 PM	#229
Chris Beveridge Moderator Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Hudson, MA Blu-ray reviews:3	Yep. There have been posts at one point or another that various Warner titles were being held back until they could replicate the IME features in BD. With Warner going strong into the second half of 2007 via HD DVD in terms of key titles, the sooner these features are available the better of course. This is especially true in the US where TotalHD is their plan and most of their releases will be in that format. Would they just excise it? I know paidgeek can't answer that, but I'm really wondering what's still hindering true IME-like capability. Is it in the authoring side? Or the hardware side?

01-30-2007, 06:37 PM	#238
Rob Tomlin Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2006	That 3:1 ratio will make more of an impact as the HD disc formats, as a whole, become more successful. I.e., the more discs that are actually sold, the harder it will be for Universal to stay exclusive to HD-DVD. I don't know if paidgeek can post actual sales numbers per title, but that is the stat that I would really like to see. I'm sure the figures are still miniscule compared to DVD.

01-30-2007, 06:40 PM	#239
partridge Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2005 Location:England	...and just wait till a million PS3's arrive in Europe, just in time for Mr Bond on Blu-Ray. Oh yes!

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