Sony introduces high-end ZD9 TV series with HDR

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

recS-12

thanks for Heads Up. ManHunter.

Have you seen Netflix's DV Bright With Wil Smith.

Bright will have a Netflix Sequel. Because the 1st was so good.

[recS-12]

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

recS-12

thanks for Heads Up. ManHunter.

Have you seen Netflix's DV Bright With Wil Smith.

Bright will have a Netflix Sequel. Because the 1st was so good.

MINDHUNTER. NOT manhunter LoL. Yes I saw Bright. We really liked it! Also, MINDHUNTER is strictly an adult show for when the kids go to bed.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

HaHa.

Manhunter is 94% Tomatoe rating.

Now I have two more to watch. Who needs sleep anyways when you have a Z9D.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

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[ClassicRocker]

Originally Posted by recS-12

ClassicR-
Have you tried Netflix 4K or any other streaming 4K materials? I recently finished season 1 of “MINDHUNTER” in DolbyVision 4K Netflix. Lots of darker scenes in jailhouse interviews, club scenes, bar scenes. Lots of opportunity to notice haloing issues. (None that I saw) For me I was Blown Away by how beautifully the PQ was not to mention the show itself is EXCELLENT. I watched through the apps in the Z9D. If you have 4K Netflix I highly recommend giving it a try.

I watched all of Manhunter on the x930e. There was minimal haloing. Not as bad as bright. Any specific scenes for reference? Bright looks bad on pretty much every LED FALD. I think it was shot that way. Just looks bad. I checked out Rediculous 6, which looked terrible on x930e, and that looks fine now. There's also not as much blooming with Stranger Things. It's definitely an improvement, but I just want to figure out if this is a lemon.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Mindhunter is so cerebral_____ I emptied a whole bottle of Asprins.

Now I have to make a trip to Pharmacy before I can watch episode 2.

I knew I should'nt have quit school after the 6th grade.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Mindhunter is so cerebral_____ I emptied a whole bottle of Asprins.

Now I have to make a trip to Pharmacy before I can watch episode 2.

I knew I should'nt have quit school after the 6th grade.

I think you would have enjoyed this - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...w#post15146185

P.S.
I wouldn't do that with the aspirins though, as you're setting yourself up for an UGI bleed -> hospitalization -> no HDR tv in your hospital room, not to mention, the potential for a cranky roomate.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by ClassicRocker

I use Dolby Vision and Cinema Pro at night with brightness at 95, local dimming medium, and extended dynamic range medium or off. Really the same settings I used for the x930e 65inch. I usually don't think settings will minimize haloing. Will settings minimize haloing? Never did on my x930e, but again that didn't have 600 zones. It's much better than the x930e was, including those two scenes I mentioned. I just want to make sure I don't have a lemon. AV Youtuber Whisper Status 74 usually claims that a FALD device with abnormal haloing can be a lemon. However, this is not flash-lighting. What I see are small clouds on the black bars. They typically are always dark but the cloud occurs once in a while in a scene. Is this normal? I can take videos tonight if that helps.

For Cinema Pro you could try turning down contrast to about 86. That's the setting I use per Geoff D's recommended contrast setting for HDR (btw XDR set to high for HDR, off for SDR). It will probably not do much about that haloing of yours though. I don't own Hostiles so I can't check that specific scene. Got any other examples (UHD discs, not streaming) when it occurs?

I don't think taking videos or pictures of HDR content will do any good, since it will only over expose the issue at hand. I don't have excessive haloing/blooming issues during HDR on the 65" myself. Perhaps a dark scene with a very bright object in it (in HDR) might put the TV through its paces, but even then it is minimal IMO. As for the black bars, if I want to be very critical I can notice slightly elevated black levels in them where there's a very bright object near in HDR. But you really would have to be looking at the bars themselves instead of the picture inside them. I don't have clouds in them as you described though. Silly question perhaps, but you are watching directly in front of the TV and not from an angle?

In the end, the 65Z9D, however great it is with its 600+ zones and BMD tech, is still not an OLED. So it will exhibit some minor issues with blooming during HDR when really put to the test. It's just that it will have the least of those issues when compared to other LCDs.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

From the above post #884 Z9D review URL

As it results from the above measurements, ZD9 is an LCD TV with phenomenal, at times almost OLED black. In places where the dark surface is large, the backlight turns off completely and we get the perfect black. A large number of zones allows similar results to be obtained even when the dark elements are bright. An example of this is test scene number 2, in which good results are recorded by turning off the best LCD TVs. ZD9 is one of them, with its result 14,000: 1 with "medium" setting of the local blanking function. The system has one more powerful mode of operation, but it does not significantly improve the results, but it tends to manipulate the brightness of the entire screen. Therefore, I suggest stopping at the set average. Subjectively to the point of approaching, I think that everyone will be delighted with the blackness offered by ZD9. When the light is turned off, the depth and image of the image are simply amazing. It also enjoys a very small halo effect, in principle, it can not be seen when the viewer is in front of the display
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[E6AtmosVuduDV]

From a recient Sound & Vision TV review____ I read about setting changes for really dark movies.

Will test and see if Necessary when it's on the Z9D.

With fewer local dimming zones than Sony’s 2016 Z9D series sets, the Z9F generated significant blooming; this was clearly visible on bright objects against very dark backgrounds, and more obvious with HDR than SDR content. Even with the blooming, however, the Z9F’s black level and shadow detail were outstanding. The star fields on Prometheus popped convincingly, and overall image contrast was first-rate. The latter was also demonstrated convincingly on my favorite SDR black level and shadow detail reference disc, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2. To avoid crushed blacks on this very dark movie (dark in more ways than one!) I had to turn Brightness from the 8 setting I used for most SDR sources up to 12 and Gamma to +2 (it was usually set to -1 for SDR). With these changes, some of the most difficult scenes, particularly those in chapters 9 and 12, easily looked as good as I’ve ever seen them, and in some ways looked arguably better.


Read more at https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...gssGIAGQWb2.99

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

https://www.lesnumeriques.com/tv-tel...5375/test.html

Z9D 5 stars
https://www.lesnumeriques.com/tv-tel...3993/test.html

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10600: 1
The native contrast is already very good (3640: 1), but it becomes excellent by activating the local variation of brightness. The contrast measured then exceeds 10,000: 1, with very little blooming effect . The blacks are very deep and allow to watch a film in the dark without suffering from the presence of a gray background permanently. We measured the peak of brightness at 1330 cd / m² - a new record measured in our laboratory - an ideal value to enjoy HDR content calibrated for the moment on 1000 cd / m² (HDR10).

This is interesting

By default, the gamma set to -2 achieves an average gamma of 2.4, the standard for Ultra HD content. The setting to 0 allows to find a gamma with a perfect average value of 2.2 and especially a stable curve on all the gray levels.

[Geoff D]

UHD content doesn't use 2.4 in any way, shape or form. It uses the PQ EOTF, not gamma.

BTW on my last calibration run done a couple of weeks ago peak was measured at 1978 nits

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

UHD content doesn't use 2.4 in any way, shape or form. It uses the PQ EOTF, not gamma.

BTW on my last calibration run done a couple of weeks ago peak was measured at 1978 nits

Wow, that's higher than the average numbers of peak brightness I have come across here and there! I thought it was around 1800 for the 65", with the 75" peaking somewhere in the 1900 range?

Could there be variations in panels (and/or calibration equipment) causing differences in measurements?

[G_Dubble]

Originally Posted by DJR662

It's an hidden options menu buried deep into the service menus. It gives the Z9D upscaling capabilities up to 10K!

How do I access this feature? The deep service menus you speak of? I have the Z9D and I love it!

[pbz06]

Originally Posted by G_Dubble

How do I access this feature? The deep service menus you speak of? I have the Z9D and I love it!

up up down down left right left right b a start

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by DJR662

Wow, that's higher than the average numbers of peak brightness I have come across here and there! I thought it was around 1800 for the 65", with the 75" peaking somewhere in the 1900 range?

Could there be variations in panels (and/or calibration equipment) causing differences in measurements?

I've been getting on or about that from the start, but bear in mind that settings also play their part. Higher/lower contrast in whatever picture mode will affect the HDR brightness curve.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by pbz06

up up down down left right left right b a start

Isn't that Scorpion's fatality from MK 1?

[Geoff D]

Nope. That's the "both play as the same character" code from Street Fighter II on the SNES. Hadoken!

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Versus Z9D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnNn...ature=youtu.be

Looks Z9D is pretty nice thats available to buy in year 2018. Certainly by my eyes. $1999 for the 65 inch is a wonderful AV Joy.

Tho I would probably kick the Z9D Color slider up a little at video above. Or is that Z9D at an angle

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Late Evening, Night Movie Watchers.

Z9D Alert.

October 19th 2018
http://www.uhdledtvcomparison.com/so...f-vs-xbr75z9d/