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PeterTHX · 03-26-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Maya (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=2659)

tells me pet lovers are good people.

Hitler loved his dogs...

Oh my lord, I just godwinned Penton's thread!

Doctorossi · 03-26-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

Quantum of Solace was a pretty good continuation of Casino Royale. The only complaint I have with it is the opening title music (by Jack White and Alicia Keys) sucked. Out of Bond movie music that tune ranks near the bottom.

Bingo!

The movie is better than its reputation; the song is not.

PeterTHX · 03-26-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

Quantum of Solace was a pretty good continuation of Casino Royale. The only complaint I have with it is the opening title music (by Jack White and Alicia Keys) sucked. Out of Bond movie music that tune ranks near the bottom.

Yeah, it was not the best one.

I liked the film quite a bit but absolutely cannot stand the cut-every-other-second A.D.D. film school method employed.

DenonCI · 03-26-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

All I know is that my cajones have never really felt the same since the ball busting scene in Casino Royale.

+1...ouch just thinking about it!

juanell · 03-27-2009, 05:09 AM

Shaky cam killed QoS for me, I'm loving me some Goldfinger though!!

sharkshark · 03-27-2009, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

pet lovers are good people.

...just to keep it on topic:

sharkshark · 03-27-2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Much more useful

than the disturbed tripod nerd that caused Cinematographer Roger Deakins
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005683/

to have to do this

………
http://www.rogerdeakins.com/

For those that want the past:

http://web.archive.org/web/200802111...erdeakins.com/

Not complete, but it's a begining. Forgetting the vagaries of classic auteur theory, the guy is, in Jazz parliance, a muthafukka... Quite simply one of the true original visions of cinema, and a guy that's shot at least a couple of my fav (visual) films of all time.

Penton-Man · 03-27-2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkshark

...just to keep it on topic:

O.K., let me see if I remember it right.

Penton-Man · 03-27-2009, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Ohh... why'd you have to go there?

no!
NO!
NO!

to the right!
TO THE RIGHT!
TO THE RIGHT!

Sleep well tonight doctorossi and don’t dream of knotted ropes.

Oliver K · 03-27-2009, 02:43 PM

Why is is that I feel kind of uncomfortable reading the last half page of this thread ?

Ball busting aside I agree on the shaky cam - that was really annoying about the last Bond. For me it even beat out the last Bourne movie in that regard.

Bobby Henderson · 03-27-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I liked the film quite a bit but absolutely cannot stand the cut-every-other-second A.D.D. film school method employed.

To me it seemed like Mark Forster was riffing off Ridley Scott's directorial style, but coming off more like Tony Scott in the process.

The shaky cam stuff was noticeable, but I didn't think it was quite as bad as the usual Paul Greenglass-Bourne sequel kind of treatment. I can see why critics of QOS complain the movie felt like James Bond was grafted into a Bourne movie installment.

horseflesh · 03-27-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

To me it seemed like Mark Forster was riffing off Ridley Scott's directorial style, but coming off more like Tony Scott in the process.

The shaky cam stuff was noticeable, but I didn't think it was quite as bad as the usual Paul Greenglass-Bourne sequel kind of treatment. I can see why critics of QOS complain the movie felt like James Bond was grafted into a Bourne movie installment.

Didn't Penton make a post a few months ago that a typical 100 minute "action" film has 700 cuts but QoS has 1000+ ??
(I'm making the numbers up, but you get the idea)

Jeff Kleist · 03-27-2009, 03:33 PM

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The shaky cam stuff was noticeable, but I didn't think it was quite as bad as the usual Paul Greenglass-Bourne sequel kind of treatment. I can see why critics of QOS complain the movie felt like James Bond was grafted into a Bourne movie installment.

Well, that was their goal all along, they said as much

Rumor hath it that the next Bond will be "unfixed", and putting things back the way they should be, hopefully with better writing which would fix the only problem the franchise had in the first place.

Let Bourne be Bourne and Bond be Bond

Slec · 03-27-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Well, that was their goal all along, they said as much

Rumor hath it that the next Bond will be "unfixed", and putting things back the way they should be, hopefully with better writing which would fix the only problem the franchise had in the first place.

Let Bourne be Bourne and Bond be Bond

Unfixing the tone as well or just the technical aspects? I like the darker Bond, even if that puts me in the minority. Thanks

Doctorossi · 03-27-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Well, that was their goal all along, they said as much

Funny, since in the interview I read with the editing team, they spent most of the time insisting the opposite.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Rumor hath it that the next Bond will be "unfixed", and putting things back the way they should be

What does this mean?

Jeff Kleist · 03-27-2009, 04:34 PM

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What does this mean?

Pounding theme music, gadgets, ludicrous action, double entendre, the way Bond is supposed to be

Oh and giving a damn about "shaken not stirred"

Doctorossi · 03-27-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Pounding theme music, gadgets, ludicrous action, double entendre, the way Bond is supposed to be

Oh and giving a damn about "shaken not stirred"

Ah, ok. Personally, I like the new 'book-style' Bond infinitely more than the over-developed movie Bond. For my money, these last two are the only Bond movies that matter since On Her Majesty's...

The Moore and Brosnan crap was fun for a go 'round in the theatre, but then forgotten. The Connerys and Craigs are worth a second look.

PeterTHX · 03-27-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

To me it seemed like Mark Forster was riffing off Ridley Scott's directorial style, but coming off more like Tony Scott in the process.

The shaky cam stuff was noticeable, but I didn't think it was quite as bad as the usual Paul Greenglass-Bourne sequel kind of treatment. I can see why critics of QOS complain the movie felt like James Bond was grafted into a Bourne movie installment.

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Originally Posted by horseflesh

Didn't Penton make a post a few months ago that a typical 100 minute "action" film has 700 cuts but QoS has 1000+ ??
(I'm making the numbers up, but you get the idea)

It was absolutely ridonkulus (to quote the NYC pigeons in Bolt).

We don't need several different angles of one single shot, and it makes it headache inducing trying to figure out what's going on.

Penton-Man · 03-27-2009, 05:21 PM

Juanell, yeah, I hope that Directors (TV as well as feature film) get the shaky cam effect out of their systems. It sorta reminds me of rap music (Bruce Willis has a great quote from one of his movies -sharkshark) and neither do anything for me in regards to enhancing the mood of the art.

I will say however, that there is a seamless visual blending of the film (3-perf Super 35 as well as 4-perf Super 35) with the digitally captured imagery and you just can’t beat those Master Prime lenses.

Penton-Man · 03-27-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by horseflesh

Didn't Penton make a post a few months ago that a typical 100 minute "action" film has 700 cuts but QoS has 1000+ ??
(I'm making the numbers up, but you get the idea)

I don't remember numerating the cuts for QoS but, I did give a rundown on at least one of the Bourne films.
Searching my past posts using the word Bourne may be helpful for further elaboration.

03-27-2009, 05:21 PM	#8039
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	Juanell, yeah, I hope that Directors (TV as well as feature film) get the shaky cam effect out of their systems. It sorta reminds me of rap music (Bruce Willis has a great quote from one of his movies -sharkshark) and neither do anything for me in regards to enhancing the mood of the art. I will say however, that there is a seamless visual blending of the film (3-perf Super 35 as well as 4-perf Super 35) with the digitally captured imagery and you just can’t beat those Master Prime lenses. Last edited by Penton-Man; 03-27-2009 at 05:25 PM. Reason: bolded member's name

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juanell Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Lexington, ky 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:162 DVD collection:2	Shaky cam killed QoS for me, I'm loving me some Goldfinger though!!

03-27-2009, 02:43 PM	#8030
Oliver K Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008	Why is is that I feel kind of uncomfortable reading the last half page of this thread ? Ball busting aside I agree on the shaky cam - that was really annoying about the last Bond. For me it even beat out the last Bourne movie in that regard.

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