Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread

[indravayu]

Originally Posted by AKNewbie

Store down for maintenance. What surprise do they have in store for us now?

Per the livestream last night, Demon and Bill went through Bill's bombed-out storage apartment and grabbed up a bunch more Code Red titles for the DF store. I can't remember all the titles they showed - the stream might still be up on DF's FB page, though. I do recall SCREAM being one title. I believe Demon also mentioned NEON MANIACS in a separate post on FB.

[AKNewbie]

Watching the video now.

As a first step, you think his new friends would show up with some trash bags and a broom. Cherry-pick his rare sh*t after you help him clean up that mess.

Still watching...

Originally Posted by indravayu

If you watched last night's livestream, they explained why: Bananaman is broke and doing this to raise money.

Still unethical to do this to customers - if he needs money, he should set up a separate GoFundMe, or something.

So, Demon, why not state with the up-priced items (like BBNM) that $20 of this sale goes to the "Banana Main Relief Program"? And then give him that $20.

Lastly for Demon because Bill doesn't understand, US customers could NOT check out of his new CR store. The country they were trying to enter was USA. He had something NOT properly configured. Don't go into the weeds that these are overseas; they are not.
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[ScorpionReleasing]

Originally Posted by mja345

What are you talking about? I'd love to spend 50 bucks on "Race for Glory".

Is this a joke? Cuz if it is true and that's what they are charging that's insane, you can easily picked title up from Ronin ,screen archives, diabolik and I believe even Hamilton books

[frakking toaster]

Originally Posted by ScorpionReleasing

Is this a joke? Cuz if it is true and that's what they are charging that's insane, you can easily picked title up from Ronin ,screen archives, diabolik and I believe even Hamilton books

That was most definitely a joke.

[cloudnine]

Originally Posted by indravayu

Per the livestream last night, Demon and Bill went through Bill's bombed-out storage apartment and grabbed up a bunch more Code Red titles for the DF store. I can't remember all the titles they showed - the stream might still be up on DF's FB page, though. I do recall SCREAM being one title. I believe Demon also mentioned NEON MANIACS in a separate post on FB.

Can someone post a link from the livestream last night?

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by cloudnine

Can someone post a link from the livestream last night?

https://www.facebook.com/15854242143...9651094297499/

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by ScorpionReleasing

Is this a joke? Cuz if it is true and that's what they are charging that's insane, you can easily picked title up from Ronin ,screen archives, diabolik and I believe even Hamilton books

Yep, the sequel Race for Glory 2 is the one worth big bucks

[AKNewbie]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

https://www.facebook.com/15854242143...9651094297499/

Sad video.

DFE does not come off looking like good guys helping BM out.
They come off as taking advantage of a guy having hard times.
Picking out his "good stuff" to sell in their store - giving him "cash".

Reminds me of "antique dealers" swooping in on bereaved widows. Vultures.

You want some positive karma? Do another video next week after you've helped him clean up his apartment this weekend.

[ScorpionReleasing]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Yep, the sequel Race for Glory 2 is the one worth big bucks

To me what's amazing is both of them don't seem to understand films like race for glory or even steel Arena is not really meant for their clientele which is why those kind of titles should go through a distributor so it'll be sold at Amazon and wider venues so general audiences can purchase them, i doubt race car or motorcycle fans are aware of both of their stores

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by AKNewbie

Sad video.

DFE does not come off looking like good guys helping BM out.
They come off as taking advantage of a guy having hard times.
Picking out his "good stuff" to sell in their store - giving him "cash".

Reminds me of "antique dealers" swooping in on bereaved widows. Vultures.

You want some positive karma? Do another video next week after you've helped him clean up his apartment this weekend.

My advice would be for them to not quit their day jobs as their acting is very poor and poorly staged. I'd like to know how Bill determined he had a $23K loss due to the closure of his Big Cartel store and why he hasn't done anything to reopen a new store after two months. Any theoretical lost revenue is his fault at this point. Quite frankly it wouldn't take that much effort to reopen a new store when you can easily import a spreadsheet or text file with all the necessary info.

What's more interesting is that he claimed to spend $38K and $42K on Dead Pit and Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker.

How many copies did he press of each (1000)? If he actually spent that much, well..., he was never going to recoup that amount based on what he was originally charging and the quantity pressed. It's just common sense.

It's interesting though to see all of the Amazon Prime envelopes and the eBay package.

[Deadguy2322]

Originally Posted by indravayu

If you watched last night's livestream, they explained why: Bananaman is broke and doing this to raise money.

Still unethical to do this to customers - if he needs money, he should set up a separate GoFundMe, or something.

We saw how the last attempt Bill made at a GoFundMe went.

[GetHarryPalmer]

Originally Posted by Ruined

They could if they wanted to, but they choose a more typical business model of blowing out old stock to get rid of it. Code Red likes to hold on to old stock and squeak every penny out of each release as their business model.

I personally would prefer if more labels had a model where an item was cheaper right away and progressively more expensive as stock dwindles (like a reverse twilight time model). Would actually work too if it was done in small limited runs (no more than 1000).

They get rid of their overstock 'cause they've lost the rights and must purge the remaining stock after the expiration date. It's illegal for the rights holder to continue selling a product after their rights have expired. So there's no confusion, a third party store/seller can continue selling the product after it's gone out of print 'cause they purchased it legally and are not the licensee.

[Dark Force]

Originally Posted by AKNewbie

Store down for maintenance. What surprise do they have in store for us now?

We are restocking a bunch of the titles we got the other night. And when it reopens everyone will see that our prices are better than any place else that happens to be carrying the exact same title.

[Dark Force]

Originally Posted by AKNewbie

Sad video.

DFE does not come off looking like good guys helping BM out.
They come off as taking advantage of a guy having hard times.
Picking out his "good stuff" to sell in their store - giving him "cash".

Reminds me of "antique dealers" swooping in on bereaved widows. Vultures.

You want some positive karma? Do another video next week after you've helped him clean up his apartment this weekend.

We are Dark Force not looking for positive anything. But now that you mention it, myself and a friend that works for Dark Force spent 3 months cleaning up his place last year when he went back to Seattle so he didn't get evicted. Didn't take him too long to get it in the condition it is now since returning to LA. Are we gonna clean it up again? HELL NO! And I don't see how we are the bad guys by buying stock he has laying around at the prices he wants to help out while his store is gone.

[Antemasque]

What's up with the needle laying on the floor in the video? You should probably delete that real quick dude.

[jebhdb]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

We are Dark Force not looking for positive anything. But now that you mention it, myself and a friend that works for Dark Force spent 3 months cleaning up his place last year when he went back to Seattle so he didn't get evicted. Didn't take him too long to get it in the condition it is now since returning to LA. Are we gonna clean it up again? HELL NO! And I don't see how we are the bad guys by buying stock he has laying around at the prices he wants to help out while his store is gone.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

We are Dark Force not looking for positive anything. But now that you mention it, myself and a friend that works for Dark Force spent 3 months cleaning up his place last year when he went back to Seattle so he didn't get evicted. Didn't take him too long to get it in the condition it is now since returning to LA. Are we gonna clean it up again? HELL NO! And I don't see how we are the bad guys by buying stock he has laying around at the prices he wants to help out while his store is gone.

Some people don't mind and/or enjoy living in chaos. You can clean it up but if that's what they prefer that's how its going to end up anyway eventually. Clean it up again, it will get messed up again.

Originally Posted by Antemasque

What's up with the needle laying on the floor in the video? You should probably delete that real quick dude.

Because a guy just in the hospital couldn't possibly need a syringe for medical use...

[Antemasque]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Because a guy just in the hospital couldn't possibly need a syringe for medical use...

Why roll your eyes? I wasn't trying to be a jerk. I didn't even post the screen cap. It was a more of a heads up to them. Regardless of what it is, to a facebook audience that has no knowledge, it does not look good laying there on the floor.

[Dark Force]

Originally Posted by Antemasque

What's up with the needle laying on the floor in the video? You should probably delete that real quick dude.

Those were actually insulin needles. I was just lucky I didn't get stabbed by one of them. Realized they were on the floor when I kneeled down to film Bill.

[Fury Road]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

https://www.facebook.com/15854242143...9651094297499/

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