Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread - Page 385 - Blu-ray Forum

TheHorrorNerd · 08-17-2019, 06:11 PM

Its strange. I'm not sure if the film is cropped in the DF release.
This is as far back as this shot goes on the DF release.

Dark Force Gates of Hell

Blue Underground

Notice the bartender to the right isn't even in the frame and the wall to the left of the door is missing.

Dark Force Gates of Hell

Blue Underground

Dark Force Gates of Hell

Blue Underground

indravayu · 08-17-2019, 06:29 PM

Here's Arrow's version:

TheHorrorNerd · 08-17-2019, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by indravayu

Here's Arrow's version:

Honestly I looked at Arrows version and it seemed like it lacked some detail that was present in the BU release.
I'm probably wrong though

indravayu · 08-17-2019, 06:42 PM

I have the Arrow version and, tbh, I don't like how it looks on my TV.

miribeau · 08-17-2019, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHorrorNerd

Honestly I looked at Arrows version and it seemed like it lacked some detail that was present in the BU release.
I'm probably wrong though

Arrow has two versions, one in which detail is severely lacking and one in which there is an abundance. You can't be wrong in commenting on "the Arrow release", unless you specify which one you mean and actually get it wrong.

For example, "The Arrow release is spectacular" and "The Arrow release is just crap" are both 100% accurate.

Thank you for posting several screenshots with comparison photos.

TheHorrorNerd · 08-17-2019, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by miribeau

Arrow has two versions, one in which detail is severely lacking and one in which there is an abundance. You can't be wrong in commenting on "the Arrow release", unless you specify which one you mean and actually get it wrong.

For example, "The Arrow release is spectacular" and "The Arrow release is just crap" are both 100% accurate.

Thank you for posting several screenshots with comparison photos.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...123873&i=2&l=0

Im comparing the BU to the Arrow remaster

jessbarker · 08-17-2019, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHorrorNerd

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...123873&i=2&l=0

Im comparing the BU to the Arrow remaster

If you don't mind me asking, what order number were you for your Dark Force blu...just wondering how much longer I can expect to get my blu of GOH/PFT.

mdaniels · 08-17-2019, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHorrorNerd

My copy of Gates from Hell is out for delivery.
I’m actually very excited.

What’s the run time on Gates of Hell?
If you don’t mind. Curious if any footage, like the gore, is actually missing.
Debating this release, just want to make sure it’s not a simple unpolished grindhouse master.

miribeau · 08-17-2019, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mdaniels

What’s the run time on Gates of Hell?
If you don’t mind. Curious if any footage, like the gore, is actually missing.
Debating this release, just want to make sure it’s not a simple unpolished grindhouse master.

It was scanned from a theatrical/circulated print of the film, so whatever version was shown in drive-ins is the version they used.

jessbarker · 08-17-2019, 08:59 PM

Do you have the Code Red DVD of Psycho from Texas to do comparison screen shots of that and the Dark Force blu-Ray?

TheHorrorNerd · 08-17-2019, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jessbarker

Do you have the Code Red DVD of Psycho from Texas to do comparison screen shots of that and the Dark Force blu-Ray?

I don’t. Anyone have any screens for comparison?

miribeau · 08-17-2019, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHorrorNerd

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...123873&i=2&l=0

Im comparing the BU to the Arrow remaster

Ah. I get it.... As to the detail comparison, BU was a bit stripped of grain and then sharpened, so, on the one hand, it has a better appearance, as to the easy-to-sharpen fine details, like the hair strands and flowers in the caps comparison photos, but, on the other hand, it appears less natural and actually strips detail in other instances, such as fine facial details, skin imperfections and the like. The new Arrow 4K has grain in tact, didn't strip fine detail and wasn't sharpened in the same way.... Funny, because I still prefer the older, less detailed version, even with all the positive things I have to say about their 4K master. Given the new special features they added in, even though the master is too perfect, for me, for this kind of film, I really do love that new version.

I imagine, if I can ever afford it, David's will be my favourite version of the film itself, as it doesn't have so much detail, as to allow me to see all the places in which cheap props and lesser-make-up ended up being used, and it has a grungier feel to it, without sacrificing so much visual information that you suffer the blandness of a dvd, faded in comparison to an HD scan. That 4K close-up of a foam prop-gravestone.... Ugh.

Speaking of, would you be willing to post a screengrab of the foam gravestone with the line down the side, showing it is a foam prop, from David's version, for me to compare to my others? Thank you, if you say yes.

jessbarker · 08-17-2019, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHorrorNerd

I don’t. Anyone have any screens for comparison?

There's a review here with a couple screencaps at the end (the review covers all the films on the original dvd)...I don't know if that is of any help?

jcs913 · 08-18-2019, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHorrorNerd

The inside does not have a reversible cover?? which for a $30+ release(like Dead Pit)... Is not good. The slip is one thing, but there really should be a reversible cover for this price. The Last Victim had it and had no slip. This really should have it.

babybreese · 08-18-2019, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHorrorNerd

I don’t. Anyone have any screens for comparison?

Can you check the credits and see if they look like this, from the DVD?
I have the DVD and can grab any matching shot you need.

dvd mis framed cap

miribeau · 08-18-2019, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by babybreese

Can you check the credits and see if they look like this, from the DVD?
I have the DVD and can grab any matching shot you need.

dvd mis framed cap

PM Horror Nerd some screengrabs, preferably not of dead plants. The offer was made earlier.

Dk8819 · 08-18-2019, 04:26 AM

I really wish my copy of dead pit would ship. Ordered the 14th got confirmation and checked website next day and somehow my order date changed to 15th. Kinda miffed tbh. If it does not ship on mon/Tuesday DF is getting emailed. Hope it’s worth it lol.

miribeau · 08-18-2019, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dk8819

I really wish my copy of dead pit would ship. Ordered the 14th got confirmation and checked website next day and somehow my order date changed to 15th. Kinda miffed tbh. If it does not ship on mon/Tuesday DF is getting emailed. Hope it’s worth it lol.

Dead Pit turned out really well and is a genuinely solid release. It was the kind of full restoration DF did on MMII, from a quality source, and it showed. I think it will be worth it for you, Dead Pit, specifically. I love it.

chetripley80 · 08-18-2019, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dk8819

I really wish my copy of dead pit would ship. Ordered the 14th got confirmation and checked website next day and somehow my order date changed to 15th. Kinda miffed tbh. If it does not ship on mon/Tuesday DF is getting emailed. Hope it’s worth it lol.

Just a heads up... It’s not unusual for Dark Force to take a week or longer to ship now. However, once an order finally ships, it’s delivered fairly quickly.

Marsupial Werewolf · 08-18-2019, 02:39 PM

I hate the blocky, cheapo Blu-ray cases that Code Red and Dark Force (and sometimes Scorpion) use.

08-17-2019, 06:11 PM	#7681
TheHorrorNerd Special Member Member since:Oct 2017 Location:N/A 4K collection:292 Blu-ray collection:1769 DVD collection:28 MA collection:307 Digital collection:348 iTunes collection:366 Prime collection:302	Its strange. I'm not sure if the film is cropped in the DF release. This is as far back as this shot goes on the DF release. Dark Force Gates of Hell Blue Underground Notice the bartender to the right isn't even in the frame and the wall to the left of the door is missing. Dark Force Gates of Hell Blue Underground Dark Force Gates of Hell Blue Underground Last edited by TheHorrorNerd; 08-17-2019 at 06:32 PM.

08-17-2019, 06:29 PM	#7682
indravayu Banned Top contributor Member since:Feb 2017 Location:Los Angeles 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:1309 DVD collection:118	Here's Arrow's version:

08-17-2019, 06:42 PM	#7684
indravayu Banned Top contributor Member since:Feb 2017 Location:Los Angeles 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:1309 DVD collection:118	I have the Arrow version and, tbh, I don't like how it looks on my TV.

08-17-2019, 08:59 PM	#7690
jessbarker Banned Member since:Aug 2019	Do you have the Code Red DVD of Psycho from Texas to do comparison screen shots of that and the Dark Force blu-Ray?

08-18-2019, 04:26 AM	#7697
Dk8819 Special Member Member since:May 2019 Location:OH 4K collection:72 Blu-ray collection:1543 DVD collection:307 Digital collection:1 Trading Score:1	I really wish my copy of dead pit would ship. Ordered the 14th got confirmation and checked website next day and somehow my order date changed to 15th. Kinda miffed tbh. If it does not ship on mon/Tuesday DF is getting emailed. Hope it’s worth it lol.

08-18-2019, 02:39 PM	#7700
Marsupial Werewolf Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2012 4K collection:809 Blu-ray collection:4369 DVD collection:295 Digital collection:53 Trading Score:1	I hate the blocky, cheapo Blu-ray cases that Code Red and Dark Force (and sometimes Scorpion) use.

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