Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[GC Riot]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Pretty much!

I'd have given anything to be in Star Wars as a lead. That's pretty much "the dream" haha.

That's thinking small. Everyone knows what "the dream" really is.

[Goremeister100]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Why not? If you can secure a deal for that kind of money then good for them.

I thought the film industry was suffering due to their films showing up online like the latest controversy with THE HATEFUL EIGHT and THE REVENANT? I guess they aren't suffering that much if they're able to pay someone 20 million bucks. Maybe if they lowered salaries and the amount of people that work on these movies then they would make a profit. Does it take that many people to make a movie? It didn't years back. The end credits are getting longer and longer

[4K fanatic]

Originally Posted by chip75

Star Wars has never been a huge earner for the actors', they've never had huge salaries, Ewan McGregor said he thought that they expected you to do it for Star Wars not the money ... plus you were going to be in high-demand if well received. Harrison Ford could have basically asked for anything this time around. He was always going to be the exception.

The movie star compensation system isn't a great system, but it's not going to change anytime soon. Actors get what they can until they can't and young actors have to rise through the ranks before hitting the big numbers (which happens a lot quicker these days). It would be a bold move to pay actors to scale and give them back-end deals of the profits (they'd really be singing for their suppers!), but can you imagine the difference in incomes? Some stars have made 30-40 million in the last few years but their box-office hasn't warranted a tenth of that!

The old adage is you ask for everything you can get, be they bigger dressing-rooms, bigger entourages, bigger Winnebago's, bigger paycheques, bigger fruit baskets ... you don't turn anything down and the sky's the limit.

As I said, I was a film and media studies minor in college. The salaries are huge but you gotta consider two things; first, the amount of cash the studios and production companies make off these movies is more absurd than the salaries- 2 billion dollars gross for a film that contributes nothing of significance to the economy is absurd- but so was old Hollywood and the studio system where actors were under contract for so long and were required to be in pictures they didn't necessarily agree were artistic endeavors of worth- so I can see it both ways- plus it's a huge gamble ( not really for Star Wars but for most pics). The chance investors will get back their investment is never guaranteed. I learned that a studio paid like 8-12 million for a Jacksons screenplay years ago that never even got made. Plus these big hits finance smaller films like Slum Dog Millionaire that are an artistic gamble. Think how many films are made and how many really make money back- look and IMDb for cost and gross. Idk if they take into acct marketing costs too or just production.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Goremeister100

I thought the film industry was suffering due to their films showing up online like the latest controversy with THE HATEFUL EIGHT and THE REVENANT? I guess they aren't suffering that much if they're able to pay someone 20 million bucks. Maybe if they lowered salaries and the amount of people that work on these movies then they would make a profit. Does it take that many people to make a movie? It didn't years back. The end credits are getting longer and longer

Only 'above the line' talent got credited in the olden days, that's why there were no credit roll ups. Yeah, there are legions of CG artists (not all of whom are credited) which bulk out credits these days but you can bet your ass that the big, lavish productions of yore still employed hundreds, even thousands of people who got even less recognition than all the poor put-upon souls who work behind the scenes on movies today.

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by Goremeister100

I thought the film industry was suffering due to their films showing up online like the latest controversy with THE HATEFUL EIGHT and THE REVENANT? I guess they aren't suffering that much if they're able to pay someone 20 million bucks. Maybe if they lowered salaries and the amount of people that work on these movies then they would make a profit. Does it take that many people to make a movie? It didn't years back. The end credits are getting longer and longer

Watch X-Men: Days of Future Past again, this time all the way to the very end. After the end credits scene, it states that the making of the film employed over 15,000 people and entailed hundreds of thousands of work hours.

[Dreamliner330]

Originally Posted by GC Riot

NO ONE should be able to get paid that much for that kind of work...

Careful. Your lack of economics is showing.

How about you go to Hollywood for 35 years, make billions of dollars for your employers and then complain you get paid too much.

These actors bring in mega bucks. In the first week, SW:TFA has brought in $890 Million.

People should get paid exactly based on how much value they contribute to society...or how much money they bring in. One reason I have no problem with a McDonalds cashier making $8 and hour? They can be replaced by a machine.

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Had I been qualified, I would have been the SW:TFA for free.

[FT-86]

^This guy understands economics. besides any career you go into, your always going to more than likely get paid off small and work your way up the ladder and increase pay. Daisy Ridley in now a lot more known now than 3 years ago. She has to build up her repertoire.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

People should get paid exactly based on how much value they contribute to society...or how much money they bring in. One reason I have no problem with a McDonalds cashier making $8 and hour? They can be replaced by a machine.

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They will eventually be able to replace actors with machines as well.

[Dreamliner330]

Originally Posted by Makarov

They will eventually be able to replace actors with machines as well.

Yep, and the people that do it best will get paid the most.

[Makarov]

You make it sound more logical than it really is tbh, especially the movie business. It isn't the best actors or ones who've worked the longest, it's luck and who they know and if they got screwed over in negotiations or something. People get more or less than they "should" in reality all the time.

[Talon884]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It is what is, Ford's a legitimate superstar so if you want him in your movie - any movie - you gotta pay. As for the youngsters, they've still earned more money for one gig than I've accrued in my entire working life thus far so I don't feel sorry for them in the slightest. They're getting a fraction of a point each as well, so the more $$$ the movie makes past a certain point then the cheques will start to roll in.

Family Guy:
Peter (Han Solo): I'm Han Solo, captain of the Millenium Falcon, and the only actor whose career isn't destroyed by this movie.

[MrJoeKalel]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

People should get paid exactly based on how much value they contribute to society...or how much money they bring in. One reason I have no problem with a McDonalds cashier making $8 and hour? They can be replaced by a machine.

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Had I been qualified, I would have been the SW:TFA for free.

That has to be one of the worst and most retrograde posts I have read in this website.

Not everyone has the opportunity to get a better paying job. Not everyone has the opportunity to 'contribute' to society, and even if they did, it does not mean they would contribute to society in a positive way (most artists nowadays prove that, especially reality show stars). Unfortunately, if we were moving towards a Star Trek future, your post would make some sense. However, we are moving towards a Star Wars future, and that does not fare well.

Going back to Ford's salary...he deserved it, he was part of the reason why people flocked the movie theatres (and will continue to do so) and because they were gonna do whatever they wanted with the character, simple as that. His negotiation skills must be amazing too.

[Dreamliner330]

Originally Posted by MrJoeKalel

That has to be one of the worst and most retrograde posts I have read in this website.

Not everyone has the opportunity to get a better paying job. Not everyone has the opportunity to 'contribute' to society, and even if they did, it does not mean they would contribute to society in a positive way (most artists nowadays prove that, especially reality show stars).

No sympathy. Those horribly reality show stars bring in big bucks for the station in ad revenue. If nobody watched, they'd go away.

Crap pay should be motivation to achieve greater, if it isn't, you are getting exactly what you deserve. Unfortunately, there is an entire generation of young people who'd rather complain than work.

Originally Posted by MrJoeKalel

Going back to Ford's salary...he deserved it, he was part of the reason why people flocked the movie theatres (and will continue to do so) and because they were gonna do whatever they wanted with the character, simple as that. His negotiation skills must be amazing too.

Agree.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

No sympathy. Those horribly reality show stars bring in big bucks for the station in ad revenue. If nobody watched, they'd go away.

Crap pay should be motivation to achieve greater, if it isn't, you are getting exactly what you deserve. Unfortunately, there is an entire generation of young people who'd rather complain than work.

Right... And how do you suggest those people who can't afford anything go about improving their situation? The United States is a country designed to suck the money out of you, not offer ways to improve your situation. College is a scam, and until they stop charging 500 bucks for just your text book, always will be.

[Dreamliner330]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Right... And how do you suggest those people who can't afford anything go about improving their situation? The United States is a country designed to suck the money out of you, not offer ways to improve your situation. College is a scam, and until they stop charging 500 bucks for just your text book, always will be.

Why does it cost money to improve your situation? MANY positions pay $15+ an hour and offer on the job training. College charges exorbitant fees because just about anyone can get college loans and don't think of cost until after. The lie that college is needed to succeed in life is one of the worst scams perpetuated on young people designed to fleece their income and setup debt mentality.

But anyway...how 'bout dem lightsabers?

[maxpower1]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Right... And how do you suggest those people who can't afford anything go about improving their situation? The United States is a country designed to suck the money out of you, not offer ways to improve your situation. College is a scam, and until they stop charging 500 bucks for just your text book, always will be.

It's only a scam if you choose a useless major that has no job prospects afterwards. Choose something like computer science or engineering, or medical field, dental, law, etc... where jobs are plentiful, and you will improve your situation. If you can't hack those fields and stick with something easy like history of art and don't have connections to get you some job afterwards, then yes, college money would be a waste. Most kids today are more concerned with worshipping kim kardashian or whoever the flavor of the month is in the tabloids that they don't even apply themselves towards real hard work and being able to compete in a technical job market. So they get stuck at mcds or retail complaining they need a huge minimum wage without doing anything to deserve it.

[Makarov]

You say young people would rather complain than work and at the same time don't have any sympathy for the people that do work hard serving you in low pay jobs. Many are stuck between taking on huge debt or not achieving the education level they need for most jobs to even look at them, much less move up and achieve greater.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Makarov

You say young people would rather complain than work and at the same time don't have any sympathy for the people that do work hard serving you in low pay jobs. Many are stuck between taking on huge debt or not achieving the education level they need for most jobs to even look at them, much less move up and achieve greater.

I seem to have wondered into the wrong thread. Was looking for the one about Episode 7

[Dreamliner330]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

I seem to have wondered into the wrong thread. Was looking for the one about Episode 7

The Job Awakens.

I'm going to see SW again in a week or so. Can't wait.

Anyone here do back-to-back screenings of Star Wars yet?

[4K fanatic]

Originally Posted by Goremeister100

I thought the film industry was suffering due to their films showing up online like the latest controversy with THE HATEFUL EIGHT and THE REVENANT? I guess they aren't suffering that much if they're able to pay someone 20 million bucks. Maybe if they lowered salaries and the amount of people that work on these movies then they would make a profit. Does it take that many people to make a movie? It didn't years back. The end credits are getting longer and longer

Is Hateful 8 on any tube sites like putlocker.co or such sites?