Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Shanderson88]

Originally Posted by AmrlKJaneway

Especially Star Wars.

Star Wars fans are (sometimes) idiotic forty years olds who forgot how much they loved it as a kid.

Example; people who hate Ewoks. Yeah, the little ****ers annoy me sometimes, but the look on my four years olds face yesterday when they popped on screen was priceless! My six year old later said "They're funny little guys!"

And with that, their purpose was served.

It's funny, I know what you mean. The Phantom Menace will probably always hold a special place in my heart, regardless of it's many flaws, (1) because I will always remember being a teenager skipping school to wait in line for tickets, and (2) because my daughter absolutely loves that movie. The first time I showed it to her, it blew her tiny mind, all of the colors and creatures. She has watched it with me 3 times since I got the Complete Saga blu ray.

It was pretty awesome cause the OT was my childhood. I would watch them over and over and over and I never had any qualms with bad acting or ewoks or directing style or anything...they were just the most amazing films ever, I was a kid and I loved every second of them.

This is why this announcement made me practically tremble with excitement. The more Star Wars, the better. Reminds me of how wonderful it was to be a kid and to just love movies no matter what.

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by Shanderson88

It's funny, I know what you mean. The Phantom Menace will probably always hold a special place in my heart, regardless of it's many flaws, (1) because I will always remember being a teenager skipping school to wait in line for tickets, and (2) because my daughter absolutely loves that movie. The first time I showed it to her, it blew her tiny mind, all of the colors and creatures. She has watched it with me 3 times since I got the Complete Saga blu ray.

It was pretty awesome cause the OT was my childhood. I would watch them over and over and over and I never had any qualms with bad acting or ewoks or directing style or anything...they were just the most amazing films ever, I was a kid and I loved every second of them.

This is why this announcement made me practically tremble with excitement. The more Star Wars, the better. Reminds me of how wonderful it was to be a kid and to just love movies no matter what.

it truely is sad how many people claim to love movies but tear them apart frame by frame.

it's like they can't enjoy anything, they always have to spot the flaws and can't let them go.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

I honestly never got the hype for Boba at all. He was only in Empire for a few minutes before getting the hell out of Cloud City and in Jedi, he was swallowed by the Sarlacc. Not good character material, right there.

The armor just looks cool.
He's enigmatic (well, until Clones gave him the ho-hum backstory).
And he talked back to Vader without getting killed in the process.

That's why people (including me) liked him. Everybody likes the badass.

I don't really care about him anymore though since he's been watered down and his voice replaced with TM's mindless babbling into a mic. All the menace and mystery is gone.

I could see him spun off, being an antihero of sorts. Very similar to the countless superhero movies we have today. Someone with a Mad Max loaner attitude.

[jedilips]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

it truely is sad how many people claim to love movies but tear them apart frame by frame.

it's like they can't enjoy anything, they always have to spot the flaws and can't let them go.

Everything has to be a life-changing event these days - being a good or great movie isn't simply enough for some people. Prometheus was a perfect example of a good movie torn to shreds unnecessarily by a bunch of unhappy, nitpicky movie "fans".

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by jedilips

Everything has to be a life-changing event these days - being a good or great movie isn't simply enough for some people. Prometheus was a perfect example of a good movie torn to shreds unnecessarily by a bunch of unhappy, nitpicky movie "fans".

Yeah, the people that have deconstructed Prometheus and dismissed it have really cheated themselves. Even with its flaws, it's still a great movie. Bring on Paradise!

[legendarymatt92]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Lucas admitted Marquand was Flavor of the Month in 1981 for directing "Eye of the Needle"--Which wasn't a bad movie at all, and okay for tension, but not really the stuff of serious sci-fi epic.
(And that was four years before "Jagged Edge", which would have made Marquand FotM, if anything did, but we never really got the chance to judge much from him after that.)

Which suggests that Lucas was really tossing off the directorial gigs without any sense of what stylistic tone he wanted from the stories--Even as much as he imagined the PT having different "tones" for the three stages of Anakin's story.
Irvin Kershner only got Empire because he had been Lucas's film prof at USC, and I doubt Lucas had "Eyes of Laura Mars" in mind for who to direct Yoda.

Fair enough, then - I can get behind that completely. Lucas never really cared who he picked to direct those two because he was always creatively involved anyway. I like Marquand as a director, and I really did like Eye of the Needle, but his style didn't suit what SW was going for, like you said.

Originally Posted by Will21st

I liked Jedi too,but I always felt that Marquand and Kershner were merely hired goons and Lucas was still directing from afar. The films are all so similar that you can tell there has been one guiding hand through all of them.

Of course, that was Lucas' intention all along; he never meant for them to be directed by anyone else, just to have someone on set who would be the stand-in director for scenes he didn't really think were that important. Much like Marvel films now, Lucas was the creative force behind what's on the screen - the directors were there simply to say "cut!"

[segagamer12]

What about the guy who did the first three Pirates movies, is he doing anything worth while lately?

I don't really follow directors much but there is not a single director on the planet that can pull this off and please everybody. No matter how they handle it people are going to *****.


Even if you don't care for the prequels you can't really argue they suffered from bad directing, if anything their major flaws are some cheesy dialog that needed tightening up and a complete removal of Jar Jar entirely. Other than that the stuff fans ***** about are minor.


For me personally the main complaint I have and always had with them was Hayden Christensen, but to be fair I just don't like the guy period.

[Shanderson88]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Yeah, the people that have deconstructed Prometheus and dismissed it have really cheated themselves. Even with its flaws, it's still a great movie. Bring on Paradise!

Agreed, second favorite film of the year behind Cloud Atlas.

I am so excited for some good ol' fashioned Star Wars fun. Just get some really talented people doing really awesome things with it, I can't wait. Well, I can wait, because I am excited about a lot of movies between now and 2015...but still, awesome.

If you would have told me I would be able to bring my kid to a brand new Star Wars movie someday, I wouldn't have believed it.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by legendarymatt92

Of course, that was Lucas' intention all along; he never meant for them to be directed by anyone else, just to have someone on set who would be the stand-in director for scenes he didn't really think were that important. Much like Marvel films now, Lucas was the creative force behind what's on the screen - the directors were there simply to say "cut!"

So absolutely wrong.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

So do you own major stock in this company or something? Do you communicate with Walt's ghost? Does Mickey whisper in your ear at night? I've seen post after post from you strongly coming down on anyone that does not share your corporate views.

Originally Posted by Shanderson88

To be fair, I see communication from Walt's Ghost pretty much every day on these forums.

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

I forgot about "Walt."

Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

DAMMIT, you stole my post!

Originally Posted by Monkey

and not surprisingly he is one of the best posters here.

Thanks, guys. Totally made my day. 'Star Wars' is definitely a great addition to the company I started.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by segagamer12

Even if you don't care for the prequels you can't really argue they suffered from bad directing, if anything their major flaws are some cheesy dialog that needed tightening up and a complete removal of Jar Jar entirely. Other than that the stuff fans ***** about are minor.


For me personally the main complaint I have and always had with them was Hayden Christensen, but to be fair I just don't like the guy period.

I can. This is just my opinion, but I thought Lucas' directing was really lazy, at least in every scene that wasn't an action sequence. There were way too many scenes of people sitting around talking, or slowly walking and talking, like we were watching a play or something. The dialog usually had no tension or build, and some of the exchanges were so bad that it felt as if Lucas shot a single take and moved on without really caring about how it came out.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

I honestly never got the hype for Boba at all. He was only in Empire for a few minutes before getting the hell out of Cloud City and in Jedi, he was swallowed by the Sarlacc. Not good character material, right there.

Originally Posted by AmrlKJaneway

You never had a Boba Fett action figure?

You LITERALLY had to have been there:
Back when we were still coming out of the first movie, and had no conceivable idea what form Empire would take, we had the original action figures offering us an exclusive not-for-sale sneak preview of the next big Empire character, with no hint except the name, and...Oo, a bounty hunter! He's really gonna shake up the story!
And by the fact that he showed up in the cartoon bits of the Holiday Special, he was obviously going to be a major player.

IOW, pretty much like the hype for Darth Maul in Ep. 1--So, um, that's...it for him, then?
Gee, wouldn't it have been nice if he'd actually had a story? Well, back to work on those fanfics.

[Walts Ghost]

I'm actually really hoping to see Joe Johnston picking up where Lucas left off. He seems like the perfect, and obvious, choice for the role of directing the new trilogy. Not to mention he has previous history with Disney and Marvel as well ('The Rocketeer', 'Captain America: The First Avenger'). I think he should definitely get a shock at taking the series into it's next phase. It would be a perfect pick and I think that it would keep the series within the Lucas family in a way. Make it happen, Disney.

[Col. Zombie]

Originally Posted by NoFro

People keep throwing JJ Abrams name out there as a potential candidate for directing. I want them to stop.

He's so locked up in Star Trek, I doubt that will ever happen. Too much of a conflict of interest.

*Waits patiently for people to bring up Singer jumping off X-Men to do a Superman movie for WB.*

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by Aragorn84

On the subject of directors, I'm thinking more and more that we're going to get a lesser known chap - hopefully an extraordinarily talented one. Star Wars, after all, didn't start with a famous director - and I foresee a future in which many new shining stars get a chance to play in George's sandbox.

That's what I'm thinking, too. A lot of people are throwing out obvious big-time directors that have had recent hits (J.J Abrahms, Christopher Nolan, Spielberg, Joss Whedon etc.) but sometimes great movies come out unexpectedly from lesser known directors or younger, newer talent.

Think back to the Lord of the Rings films-- if we were discussing who should direct those films back before they were released, would anybody have said "that guy who made Dead Alive and The Frighteners?"

[mattymoron]

Dear God, if Whedon gets his hands on Star Wars...please no. I think I'd have a stroke.

[Ryan0503]

Just watched some interviews about the sale ... pretty good stuff ... as part of the deal Disney gets Lucas' original outline for 7, 8 and 9!!!

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

That's what I'm thinking, too. A lot of people are throwing out obvious big-time directors that have had recent hits (J.J Abrahms, Christopher Nolan, Spielberg, Joss Whedon etc.) but sometimes great movies come out unexpectedly from lesser known directors or younger, newer talent.

Think back to the Lord of the Rings films-- if we were discussing who should direct those films back before they were released, would anybody have said "that guy who made Dead Alive and The Frighteners?"

Very good point.

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by Ryan0503

Just watched some interviews about the sale ... pretty good stuff ... as part of the deal Disney gets Lucas' original outline for 7, 8 and 9!!!

Yep,when I read that I thought that was pretty good news.

As someone who grew up with Star Wars I have to say I couldn't be happier with all of this. George beating his ego and handing his Legacy over to the Mouse House is just terrific.Kathleen Kennedy will do a great job as LucasFilm chief and Disney has the ability to do SW justice.

Seeing that to me Avatar is kind of the New Star Wars I feel like I am getting two great things all at once! Good times lie ahead!

[rickah88]

What about getting the earlier Clone Wars cartoon on BD! That seems right up Disney's alley!