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Old 12-23-2015, 11:09 PM   #23341
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Just came back from seeing it for the first time, and ... Well, I don't know ...

[Show spoiler] IF I COULD LOVE IT ANYMORE THAN I DID!!!!!!

JJ, my man, you slayed it. Well done sir.

If I had anything negative at all to say it would be about the over reliance on familiar settings/ scenes, but even then, not mad at all. All the feels...

I waited 30 years for this movie, and amazingly, I was not disappointed for even one minute. Well.. Maybe where it ended, the wait will be long.

P.S: sorry PT lovers, but this movie flies circles around any of them, AotC very particularly. The acting difference alone was like a bowl of fresh air (we rewatched the PT a few days ago with the kids).
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Old 12-24-2015, 12:48 AM   #23342
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Being that TFA is very similar to ANH, is it not recommended to watch ANH before TFA? If not, if you could only pick one, which SW movie would it be?
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Old 12-24-2015, 01:04 AM   #23343
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I've seen this twice, but both times I don't remember seeing screen wipe transition editing. Can anybody confirm that technique was used?
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Old 12-24-2015, 01:17 AM   #23344
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I've seen this twice, but both times I don't remember seeing screen wipe transition editing. Can anybody confirm that technique was used?
Yes, it was. Mostly noticeable during the first half of the movie. Not really used much when heavier drama sets in.
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Old 12-24-2015, 01:25 AM   #23345
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I've seen this twice, but both times I don't remember seeing screen wipe transition editing. Can anybody confirm that technique was used?
Not saying there weren't more, but I remember one circular wipe.
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Old 12-24-2015, 08:17 AM   #23346
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Not saying there weren't more, but I remember one circular wipe.
Interesting. I couldn't remember any of those classic Star Wars transitions. I'll be looking when I see it again next week!
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Old 12-24-2015, 08:25 AM   #23347
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Yes, it was. Mostly noticeable during the first half of the movie. Not really used much when heavier drama sets in.
Yeah, I noticed it several times as well. IIRC, horizontal and circular wipes were used.
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Old 12-24-2015, 08:55 AM   #23348
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Being that TFA is very similar to ANH, is it not recommended to watch ANH before TFA? If not, if you could only pick one, which SW movie would it be?

The movies are pretty much identical lol
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Old 12-24-2015, 10:53 AM   #23349
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The resemblance is strong, but please don't. We have enough coincidences already.

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Old 12-24-2015, 11:57 AM   #23350
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FINALLY going to see this tonight.... The wait has been kicking my balls.
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Old 12-24-2015, 12:17 PM   #23351
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The resemblance is strong, but please don't. We have enough coincidences already.

[Show spoiler]I think this is were it's going. But with the reveal of Kylo being Han & Leia's boy, I still don't think Rey is Luke's blood. That would be to easy.
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Old 12-24-2015, 12:19 PM   #23352
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I've seen this twice, but both times I don't remember seeing screen wipe transition editing. Can anybody confirm that technique was used?
only 1 Abrams signature lense flair used.
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Old 12-24-2015, 04:27 PM   #23353
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I saw the movie twice and somehow had two different experiences...both good but different. The first time I felt in trying to take everything in I didn't allow myself to fully enjoy the movie. My rating after first viewing was 4/5. The second viewing I laughed a lot and really had a good time. 5/5 for me.
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Old 12-24-2015, 04:31 PM   #23354
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Not saying there weren't more, but I remember one circular wipe.
The first half of the film is heavy with them and then he just drops it about halfway through.
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Old 12-24-2015, 04:34 PM   #23355
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Just came back from seeing it for the first time, and ... Well, I don't know ...

[Show spoiler] IF I COULD LOVE IT ANYMORE THAN I DID!!!!!!

JJ, my man, you slayed it. Well done sir.

If I had anything negative at all to say it would be about the over reliance on familiar settings/ scenes, but even then, not mad at all. All the feels...

I waited 30 years for this movie, and amazingly, I was not disappointed for even one minute. Well.. Maybe where it ended, the wait will be long.

P.S: sorry PT lovers, but this movie flies circles around any of them, AotC very particularly. The acting difference alone was like a bowl of fresh air (we rewatched the PT a few days ago with the kids).
Cool. Glad you enjoyed it!
TFA is definitely on top of my Star Wars list next to A New Hope.
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Old 12-24-2015, 05:20 PM   #23356
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The first half of the film is heavy with them and then he just drops it about halfway through.
From my recollection I think the wipe editing/transitioning is used very sparingly throughout the entire movie when compared to the original and prequel trilogies. I think I only noticed it a few times. Maybe I was too engrossed in the movie to pick up on it.
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Old 12-24-2015, 05:33 PM   #23357
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yes, very sparingly... they didn't over do it
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Old 12-24-2015, 08:21 PM   #23358
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You guys do know they originally wrote (and were casting) Finn as a white blonde kid right?
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Old 12-25-2015, 04:36 AM   #23359
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I finally saw this yesterday and to be honest I'm still not sure if I have my feelings on it sorted out 100%, but after digesting it for a day I have a good enough idea and I'll attempt to express my thoughts on it in a comprehensive manner.

I'll start with the bad and could-have-been-better.

First, the non-stop action. It throws one action set piece after another at us, and while they're all well done I thought it was maybe a bit too much by the end. If it was up to me, I'd trim the action down a bit and add one or two more "quiet", dialogue-driven scenes.
[Show spoiler]After finding out about a deleted scene showing a representative of the Resistance appearing before the new Republic Senate, I'm a bit disappointed that wasn't included in the final cut because I feel it would serve the film well, both as another "breather" scene and also because it would provide some helpful exposition in regards to the political workings of the new Republic and their relationship to the Resistance, clarification that the planet being destroyed isn't Coruscant (for the fans who consider the prequels part of the saga, anyway) and make us feel a bit more for the people getting blown up.


Secondly, the two villains I was most excited to see - Captain Phasma and Supreme Leader Snoke - were pretty underwhelming.
[Show spoiler]I love that we have a proper female villain in Phasma, but she does nothing of importance aside from looking cool. I get that they were going for a Boba Fett type character, but at least Boba got a cool moment in tracking the heroes to Bespin, and the way other characters talked about him clued us in on the fact that this was a bounty hunter with a fearsome reputation. Phasma doesn't even get that, she's just there. Then there's Snoke, who has a cool voice but that's about the extent of my praise for him. The CG is a bit iffy (though this may have been intentional due to him only appearing as a hologram and possibly even being an illusion - that's for Episode VIII/IX to reveal) and while there were so many potentially interesting directions they could have taken his design, they ended up going for the more generic "bald, pale, disfigured/sickly looking villain" look that we've seen so many times before - including in this very franchise.


To be fair I should add that my problems with these two characters are mostly specific to this movie; they've only just been introduced and will obviously return in the sequel so there's still a lot that can be done to make them more captivating.

Thankfully the positives outnumber the negatives. The overall execution is very good. The writing and acting is good across the board, the cinematography and effects are well-done, action choreography and editing is good; it's never difficult to follow what's going on.

I really liked our new heroes. Rey, Finn and Poe were all easy to like and I'm looking forward to seeing what Episodes VIII and IX have in store for them, especially Rey who it seems will be the central character of this trilogy. Daisy Ridley turns in a fine performance and I appreciate that our latest protagonist is a woman. Some complain that she's a bit too good at everything she does, from her piloting skills to
[Show spoiler]her handling of a lightsaber, but I think it's obvious enough that this is because she's exceptionally strong with the force, like Luke and Anakin before her.
BB-8 is adorable and I want one. It was great (and I won't lie, very emotional) to see the old characters again, some of them appear briefly but we will surely see more of them in VIII and IX. Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill all did a great job with the parts they were given.

While Snoke and Phasma failed to live up to my expectations, the two most prominently featured villains, Kylo Ren and General Hux, were both pleasant surprises. Kylo is a pretty intriguing character with a strong presence. While I initially expected him to be more of a badass he's actually very flawed, in fact he's similar to Anakin in that he's very conflicted and impulsive. The difference is that unlike Anakin he's consistently well-written and well-acted by Adam Driver, who effectively conveys both the more confused, vulnerable side of the character and his menacing intensity. Hux is similarly intense, except in a more cold, determined manner. I especially loved his speech where he gave me the Nazi vibes I've come to expect from these Imperial/First Order officer types.

The biggest criticism leveled against The Force Awakens is its strong similarities to A New Hope. It's definitely made in the same "mold" as that film, it hits many of the same story beats and has some similar scenes. I can understand how this could bother some, but it wasn't a problem for me personally. It throws in enough different elements (some borrowed from the sequels and even the prequels, many new to the franchise) and mixes it all up in a way that sets it apart. It's not much more derivative of the original film than Return of the Jedi and The Phantom Menace were, in fact it's very similar to those two movies in that it feels like a kind of "greatest hits" remix of elements taken from earlier installments while putting its own unique spin on things.

The climax is a bit of a mixed bag.
[Show spoiler]The Resistance's attack on Starkiller Base was the only time the films' callbacks to the past bothered me. The X-Wings swooping down over the surface of the planet, bombing it, dodging cannon fire and such feels strangely devoid of the proper dramatic heft. It feels like it's just going through the motions, rehashing the "heroes taking out the villains' base/superweapon" climax we've seen three times before more out of a devotion to tradition than because the filmmakers truly felt it was the best narrative choice.
Thankfully this less thrilling battle is intercut with a pretty banging lightsaber duel that's easily the highlight of the film action-wise. Goosebump-inducing in parts.
[Show spoiler]Some complain that Kylo is too easily dominated by Rey, but again, I think this is just to highlight how innately powerful Rey is and how rough around the edges and relatively weak Kylo still is (this is even clarified by Snoke who promises to "complete his training"). We have to remember this is the first part of a trilogy and we will obviously see these characters, both heroes and villains, grow and change throughout the next two movies.


All in all, I'd say The Force Awakens is a very good movie with some flaws. For me it's so well made that whatever problems it has become pretty insignificant. Very enjoyable, a solid 4/5 from me.
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Old 12-25-2015, 05:20 AM   #23360
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I actually 100% agree with his opinion. Rey did more in this movie than Luke and Vader and Han did in the original 3 combined. I agree you're telling me that a junk collector knew more about the Falcon than Han? Could fly it and make it do cool maneuvers? And then with zero training what so ever stands up to a bad a$$ Sith warrior? Yeah I agree the "girl power" thing was a bit too strong here. But............I still think the movie rocked and I want to see it in 3D now.

As for remakes yes I have a great Idea. The Jedi temple was built on top of the ruins of a Sith temple. And some of its contents remained buried deep underground. And anyone who came in contact with the objects suffered ill effects.

So lets say Anakin finds out about this and goes down into the ruins and finds the Sith objects and gets possessed by an ancient Sith called Darth vader. That would have made a much more interesting story than the original.
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