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Old 01-19-2016, 01:24 PM   #24181
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Do, Rey, Egon!
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:45 PM   #24182
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Maybe Rey is the daughter of Leia and Luke? They were a bit affectionate with each other in A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back...just sayin'!
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Old 01-19-2016, 02:08 PM   #24183
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Maybe Rey is the daughter of Leia and Luke? They were a bit affectionate with each other in A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back...just sayin'!

I would accept that, it would explain why Luke went into hiding. Disney would never allow that to happen though.

The musical cues mean nothing, those could have been done to throw us off, or it could just be she was trained by Luke.
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:55 PM   #24184
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Someone with an English accent because she didn't get that from Luke.
Mon Mothma. Maybe Luke had a thing for the older lady? After one too many drinks at the party to celebrate the end of the Empire in RotJ, they both stumbled into a disused hut on Endor. The rest is, as they say, history.
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:01 PM   #24185
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Maybe Unkar Plutt is female. Oh Luke. Now we know why you went into hiding.
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:38 PM   #24186
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[Show spoiler]Luke's daughter that has been watched over by Max von Sydow aka Lor something or other, aka Leia's ally that says to Kylo "I know where you come from" before being hacked, or Rey Babbit aka Rain Man, which explains her high intelligence about a great many things.
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:52 PM   #24187
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Old 01-19-2016, 07:12 PM   #24188
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Luke: "There was no mother. I can't explain what happened."

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Old 01-19-2016, 07:38 PM   #24189
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I once thought it would be interesting if she turned out to be of Palpatines bloodline, but it was just an interesting, mostly passing thought
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Old 01-19-2016, 07:44 PM   #24190
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She's a Skywalker. Your hat is safe.

Now...question you guys should really be pondering...who is her mother.
See, this is exactly why I hope Rey Isn't Luke's daughter because that would require way too much exposition to try and explain. Luke is a Jedi. I thought Jedi were celibate. Did Luke change the rules and abandon the old ways? If so, why? Whom did he abandon them for? Who was she? Where did she come from? How did they meet? Where is she now? Etc, etc.
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Old 01-19-2016, 07:52 PM   #24191
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I once thought it would be interesting if she turned out to be of Palpatines bloodline, but it was just an interesting, mostly passing thought
I've seen that idea tossed around and I'm not a fan of it, personally. Especially if she was to be directly descended from him i.e., a grandchild or great grandchild. Too contrived, plus I'd prefer for Palpatine to stay a kind of asexual character (for many reasons...).

I wonder how that works anyway, whether or not Sith have children. Can you imagine a Sith, with the usual Sith values and behavior, attempting to raise a child from birth? If the baby even made it out alive, that would likely result in one extremely messed up, dysfunctional individual; too much to even make a good Sith apprentice.
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See, this is exactly why I hope Rey Isn't Luke's daughter because that would require way too much exposition to try and explain. Luke is a Jedi. I thought Jedi were celibate. Did Luke change the rules and abandon the old ways? If so, why? Whom did he abandon them for? Who was she? Where did she come from? How did they meet? Where is she now? Etc, etc.
I think it's safe to assume that almost none of the tenets of the Jedi in the PT apply to Luke. That order was destroyed by the Sith and doesn't exist anymore.
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Old 01-19-2016, 08:58 PM   #24193
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See, this is exactly why I hope Rey Isn't Luke's daughter because that would require way too much exposition to try and explain. Luke is a Jedi. I thought Jedi were celibate. Did Luke change the rules and abandon the old ways? If so, why? Whom did he abandon them for? Who was she? Where did she come from? How did they meet? Where is she now? Etc, etc.
Jedi aren't celibate. It's possessive relationships that are forbidden. They can have children and love them and look after their best interests as long as they're not possessive of them. Assuming Rey is Luke's daughter, he probably had to abandon her because he was becoming possessive of her and at risk of turning to the dark side to keep her. That was the mistake Anakin made when he didn't follow Yoda's advice to let go of what he feared to lose. Eventually Luke would have become as dangerous to Rey as Anakin was to Padme when he became Darth Vader.

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Old 01-19-2016, 10:26 PM   #24194
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Jedi aren't celibate. It's possessive relationships that are forbidden. They can have children and love them and look after their best interests as long as they're not possessive of them. Assuming Rey is Luke's daughter, he probably had to abandon her because he was becoming possessive of her and at risk of turning to the dark side to keep her. That was the mistake Anakin made when he didn't follow Yoda's advice to let go of what he feared to lose. Eventually Luke would have become as dangerous to Rey as Anakin was to Padme when he became Darth Vader.
That's a topic explored between Obi-wan and Sabine in the second season of Clone Wars. To make a long story short, Jedi are forbidden from relationships and are sworn to celibacy.

It's somewhat explained in Episode II as well, and it's made abundantly clear when Anakin and Padme first meet in Episode III that if they came out with their relationship that Anakin would be expelled from the Order.

That doesn't particularly matter for Luke, though. The old ways of the Order being broken is a huge part of the "balance" that was brought to the Force, and considering Luke acted out of emotional attachment multiple times and adamantly believes he was doing the right thing, it's unlikely he'd adopt that principle in a Order he created.
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Old 01-19-2016, 10:54 PM   #24195
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Just got the novelisation today and it opens with a quote from the 'Journal of the Whills', which immediately hooked me faster than anything in the movie did :

"First comes the day
Then comes the night.
After the darkness
Shines through the light.
The difference, they say,
Is only made right
By the resolving of gray
Through refined Jedi sight."

It's a bit clunky but it's fascinating to me because it says that light and dark have had their turn and that only "resolving of gray" will make them right, i.e. it'll take someone who can look beyond binary notions of "good" and "evil" to bring dat balance. A cryptic reference to Luke's role in the saga to come, perhaps?
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:07 AM   #24196
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Rey is Lobot's daughter. I can't believe we are still discussing this.
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Old 01-20-2016, 02:42 AM   #24197
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Anyone think Rey was too perfect? She could do no wrong.
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Old 01-20-2016, 02:48 AM   #24198
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Rey is Lobot's daughter. I can't believe we are still discussing this.
Naah. Rancor Keeper's daughter.
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Anyone think Rey was too perfect? She could do no wrong.
Hence all the "she's a Mary Sue!" complaints.

Looking back on the films though, the exact same thing can be said about Luke (who's such a goody-good in the original film, and also happens to have a grappling hook just when he needed it, and was such a hotshot pilot that he took out so many TIE fighters and blew up the Death Star) and Anakin (the only human who could ever podrace, and whose marvelous spinning maneuvers allowed him to single-handedly take down the droid control ship). Both also had those moments where the Force was suddenly strong with them and they pulled amazing stuff off. Rey is just following in the same pattern - I'll bet the next film will pit her against some challenges that will reveal her flaws and vulnerabilities more (just like with Luke and Anakin).
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See, this is exactly why I hope Rey Isn't Luke's daughter because that would require way too much exposition to try and explain. Luke is a Jedi. I thought Jedi were celibate. Did Luke change the rules and abandon the old ways? If so, why? Whom did he abandon them for? Who was she? Where did she come from? How did they meet? Where is she now? Etc, etc.
Luke is love personified. His love saved the Galaxy. Then he went to Endor and cuddled up with Ewoks and went to sleep. Then he woke up and had to get flea medication.
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