Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

Just a few updates, reminders and corrections to some recent posts:

-Kasdan was not the original writer for Empire Strikes Back, he was the secondary/backup... Leigh Bracket wrote up a first draft screenplay (or at least a partial one) until she died in 1978. Lucas turned down Bracket's first draft, he didn't like it. Kasdan was given Bracket's draft work and went from there. Some of Bracket's ideas ended up being used down the road for the "Shadows of the Empire" story.
-Georgio Lucas is officially back on the Star Wars VII team, as a creative consultant. can't remember the first source i heard it from, but it is also on IMDB-Some people need to rewatch Star Wars episode 2 and 3 again, and count the lens flares... there is actually quite a bit in space scenes.
-George gave up his original drafts to K. Kennedy for the 7-9 trilogy, that's what they are basing the new story on. What, on the other hand, is in them is anybody's guess. Someone said, I think in an interview with J.J. himself, that it will be a new story (non-EU) based on George's past ideas.

Lucas was ALWAYS going to be a Creative Consultant, even from the very first day. That is not news.

[Strevlac]

Have any of you actually read Leigh Brackett's "Star Wars Sequel" script? It's online, just do a quick google search and download the pdf.

The story structure of that first draft script is pretty much what ended up on the screen. She more than deserved her screenplay credit. Are there differences? Of course. Darth Vader isn't Luke's father and Han isn't frozen in carbonite...but the overarching structure of the film belongs to her.

I was suprised at how good it was for a first, very rough draft.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

Lucas was ALWAYS going to be a Creative Consultant, even from the very first day. That is not news.

Disney: we need your opinion on this character design, George.

Lucas: Do whatever will make the coolest looking toy.

Disney: Brilliant.

[Ernest Rister]

Actor auditioning for Episode VII tweets picture of his sides (or script pages, for those not familiar with the audition process). Picture included in the article.

http://talkbacker.com/movies/jason-f...e-vii/id=16441

[Braktastic]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Disney: we need your opinion on this character design, George.

Lucas: Do whatever will make the coolest looking toy.

Disney: Brilliant.

Lucas: And then kill that character off in an absurdly stupid way and piss off the fanboys!

Disney: Uh, no, thanks. We'll make a spin-off movie instead.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Actor auditioning for Episode VII tweets picture of his sides (or script pages, for those not familiar with the audition process). Picture included in the article.

http://talkbacker.com/movies/jason-f...e-vii/id=16441

What a dumbass. He'll never get it now.

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Actor auditioning for Episode VII tweets picture of his sides (or script pages, for those not familiar with the audition process). Picture included in the article.

http://talkbacker.com/movies/jason-f...e-vii/id=16441

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

What a dumbass. He'll never get it now.

Audition pages, especially for a huge secretive production like this, are almost never actual scenes from the movie - just generic pages written up to get a feel for the actor's performance. Sometimes they're scenes from other movies even.
Hell, much of the time, they aren't even character names from the movie, just like the casting calls that went out recently.

So anyone spending a great deal of time analyzing or trying to read it is wasting their time.

[Packerfan75]

Originally Posted by Brightstar

R2 D2 is back

http://www.starpulse.com/news/Joe_Bo...tar_wars_episo

Hard to imagine Star Wars without R2 and C-3PO.
One thing I never understood was why they would ever make a droid that feels fear. C-3PO and even the separatist droids would say, "uh-oh" and react in fear. That's a clear advantage of being a robot. No fear.

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by Packerfan75

Hard to imagine Star Wars without R2 and C-3PO.
One thing I never understood was why they would ever make a droid that feels fear. C-3PO and even the separatist droids would say, "uh-oh" and react in fear. That's a clear advantage of being a robot. No fear.

It's the double edged sword of artificial intelligence. Once you start learning on your own, you realize/learn consequences, part of a droid's purpose is to self-sustain as much as possible in addition to performing programmed duties - as long as the droid's self-sustainment doesn't contradict it's duties. So when C3P0 sees a Rancor for example, he's scared of being ripped apart because that would be against his programming to sustain long enough to carry out his created mandate - to serve humans as a Protocol Droid, not to die.

R2-D2 shutters and shows fear as well, so do droid's in Jabba's junk room and so on. It seems almost all of them can/do, droid's are made to perform functions in place of humans with limited strength, agility, appendages and memory.

[aiman04]

C-3P0 has always been a coward, "Artoo, stay with me!".

[RyanPom]

Originally Posted by Braktastic

Lucas: And then kill that character off in an absurdly stupid way and piss off the fanboys!

Disney: Uh, no, thanks. We'll make a spin-off movie instead.

Hey, Lucas isn't Joss Whedon.

[Packerfan75]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

It's the double edged sword of artificial intelligence. Once you start learning on your own, you realize/learn consequences, part of a droid's purpose is to self-sustain as much as possible in addition to performing programmed duties - as long as the droid's self-sustainment doesn't contradict it's duties. So when C3P0 sees a Rancor for example, he's scared of being ripped apart because that would be against his programming to sustain long enough to carry out his created mandate - to serve humans as a Protocol Droid, not to die.

R2-D2 shutters and shows fear as well, so do droid's in Jabba's junk room and so on. It seems almost all of them can/do, droid's are made to perform functions in place of humans with limited strength, agility, appendages and memory.

As we saw in Empire, C-3PO was blown to pieces but never felt pain, nor was it difficult just to piece him back together again. A droid is knowledgeable enough to know this anyway. So what's to be fearful of?
I've always found these moments to be more about comedic relief for the movies but in actuality, it just wouldn't make sense to make an android that could fear anything. Probably just an oversight on George's part.

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by Packerfan75

As we saw in Empire, C-3PO was blown to pieces but never felt pain, nor was it difficult just to piece him back together again. A droid is knowledgeable enough to know this anyway. So what's to be fearful of?
I've always found these moments to be more about comedic relief for the movies but in actuality, it just wouldn't make sense to make an android that could fear anything. Probably just an oversight on George's part.

They do have feeling receptors actually...

1. In Jabba's Palace a white squareish droid is upside down about to be what looks like branded with a hot-iron by another droid. All the while, he is screaming "no! no! no!" then "owwww!"

2. C3P0 says "ouch" to an electrical jolt while Chewbacca is piecing him back together

3. The Episode 3 novel tells us that the technology of those days had the capability to create feelings in droids and appendage replacements. Anakin says that his arm hurts (talking about his replacement metal arm), and Obi Wan asks him "when did you put pain receptors on it?".

4. Luke Skywalker's hand replacement had feeling/pain receptors. Remember the end of ESB when he has it installed on the medical frigate?

5. Artoo screams when he is electricuted by the Jawas

6. When C3P0 has his oil bath in A New Hope (and the Episode 2 novel by Padme), he says how much it feels wonderful. (episode 2 novel he mentions how it hurts him when he gets sand in his joints and circuits too)

For a droid, all it takes is a high/bad/unwanted electrical current sent down their circuits for them to understand that it is an unwanted event. AKA, pain. The films alone tell a good tale of droids that can feel. That seperates them from just "robots", they are made to be as humanlike as possible.

[srinivas1015]

[Mavrick]

Good, but too much like the last Star Trek film poster.







http://joshlange.blogspot.co.uk/2013...ek-mashup.html

[tigertron]

Originally Posted by Braktastic

Lucas: And then kill that character off in an absurdly stupid way and piss off the fanboys!

Disney: Uh, no, thanks. We'll make a spin-off movie instead.

Oh, Wash...

[Akijama]

Breaking Bad Star Jesse Plemons in Talks for Lead Role in Star Wars: Episode VII

[Another_Dude]

Originally Posted by Akijama

Breaking Bad Star Jesse Plemons in Talks for Lead Role in Star Wars: Episode VII

Episode 7: The Revenge Of......Todd?

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

Good, but too much like the last Star Trek film poster.

Wow. You're absolutely right. If they can't do something unique for the poster, how derivative and uninspired is the movie going to be? And that bottom poster looks more like "Star Wars meets Indiana Jones" (which actually sounds more interesting than anything they're going to come up with even if that would be patently ridiculous.)

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

Wow. You're absolutely right. If they can't do something unique for the poster, how derivative and uninspired is the movie going to be? And that bottom poster looks more like "Star Wars meets Indiana Jones" (which actually sounds more interesting than anything they're going to come up with even if that would be patently ridiculous.)

your joking right?