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Old 10-31-2012, 04:09 AM   #661
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Thankfully, he is busy with a couple Avatar sequals
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I was thinking James Cameron would be cool, then I got scared, plus he's probably neck-deep in Avatar stuff for a good while yet...

Now this would be a great turn of events to get him to drop that, and do 'Battle Angel' or more 'Terminator' films instead.

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Old 10-31-2012, 04:13 AM   #662
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It's in the Blu-ray release thread somewhere. It's nothing more than I just told you.

He said they were coming eventually. That they need a lot of work. And they're not a priority.
Ahh, see now that I did not know. I really was under the impression that he wanted them gone. Which always seemed ridiculous to me.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:15 AM   #663
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As mentioned earlier in the thread, this would be a terrible idea. He can't even make a good Comic Book movie. I fear what he could do with a Fantasy Space Opera. There probably wouldn't even be aliens in it, due to Nolan's obsession with realism. Heh.
That's true about Nolan's vision when it comes to Batman. But admit it, you would swoon over to Nolan in a split second over if the new Star Wars was handed to this guy:

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The prequels will be entirely ignored in the new sequels, mark my words. Disney knows fans what spiritual successors to the original trilogy, not anything associated with the prequels. I would expect to see many familiar characters from episodes IV to VI in the sequels, including an older Han Solo.
Unlikely. Given they still sell just as much Prequel merchandise as they do OT merchandise.

There's fans of every aspect of Star Wars. Not just the OT. Hell, the Clone Wars outright proves that.

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That's true about Nolan's vision when it comes to Batman. But admit it, you would swoon over to Nolan in a split second over if the new Star Wars was handed to this guy:
I have no clue who the hell that even is. I assume Michael Bay. And no, I wouldn't swoon. The Transformers films are mostly rubbish.

And no, I would put Michael Bay and Christopher Nolan in the same category. People who don't respect the original source material.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:23 AM   #667
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Michael Bay swears too much to direct Star Wars.
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Michael Bay swears too much to direct Star Wars.
That's not how you spell sucks.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:30 AM   #669
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I vomit a little every time I hear someone compare Bay to Nolan. Regardless of discussions on faithfulness to source material - one of those guys is a terrible filmmaker, and the other is a great filmmaker. They are NOT in the same category.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:31 AM   #670
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And no, I would put Michael Bay and Christopher Nolan in the same category. People who don't respect the original source material.
You mean people like...George Lucas?
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:33 AM   #671
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So what does this mean...

...for the Star Wars Holiday Special? A 3D reboot/remake?

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Old 10-31-2012, 04:35 AM   #672
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How can you be so happy about GL not directing/writing? He created the universe. Without him Star Wars would not be.
Umm..let me guess...you've been in some form of stasis and don't know about the prequel trilogy, right?

Yes, GL gets credit for creating Star Wars and an incredible universe. But he created that universe when he was young and hungry and even he thought the original Star Wars movie was going to be a disaster. And when everyone tells you for years how great you are, you tend to think you're infallible. There were some great ideas in the prequels, but the writing was really terrible and the direction of the actors was awful.

I think Lucas lost his soul by the time he made the PT. If you watch the documentaries, he really doesn't seem concerned with performance at all and he was far more interested in special effects than he was with dramatic arc and good storytelling.

The smartest move Lucas ever made was letting someone else direct "The Empire Strikes Back" which I think most critics agree was the best Star Wars film.

In addition, most great artists have peak creative periods in their lives. It doesn't mean that they're not still geniuses after those peak periods, but their work doesn't measure up to those previous efforts. Look at Paul McCartney or even Bob Dylan. They're still great at what they do, but nothing like they were 30-40 years ago. Frankly, I think Spielberg has lost a bit of his touch as well (although maybe he'll surprise us with Lincoln). I think that comes from the fact that when Spielberg made great films, he was still closer to his middle-class background. But once he became extremely rich and isolated from ordinary people, his films suffered.

One of the reasons why the original Star Wars was such a success was because it was a total surprise. No one expected it - there was no advance hype for the film. It was the first time that a "Saturday morning serial" genre movie got such a big budget. The problem with making any sci-fi film/adventure film today is that it's very difficult to impress anyone anymore and there are millions of self-proclaimed critics who may have the capability to write a proper english sentence, but who are ready to pounce on anything and declare it a failure just to satisfy their own little egos and inferiority complexes.

The next Star Wars movie will require an incredible writer and director and while Disney does occasionally make a decent movie, I suspect the next new film will be more about battles and explosions than characterization. Having Luke or Han's kids fight some new battle, similar to the old battles, will not be enough - it has to be something we haven't seen before.
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You mean people like...George Lucas?
Well, only between 1977 to 1997-99, probably earlier starting with THX1138. Then the "violation" started.
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Steven Spielberg or Peter Jackson could both direct a hell of a Star Wars flick.
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Either of those guys FTW. Joss would even be a good choice as long as he isn't involved in the writing.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:36 AM   #675
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Well, only between 1977 to 1997-99, probably earlier starting with THX1138. Then the "violation" started.
Nerdkiller, your DOOM avatar is PIMP.
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I think Lucas lost his soul by the time he made the PT. If you watch the documentaries, he really doesn't seem concerned with performance at all and he was far more interested in special effects than he was with dramatic arc and good storytelling.
Go watch the original behind the scenes footage. That's just his directing style. Even actors have talked about it. He's very hands off. Where do you think the joke of "Faster and More Intense" comes from? He just tends to trust in his actors to deliver the best performance possible.

That's why Harrison Ford's acting in A New Hope is almost laughably bad in a lot of spots.
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Joss Whedon the Director & Joss Whedon the Writer go hand in hand - you can't have one but not the other. I love him, but I'm not sure I want him for this. Bringing PJ in would be too complicated, what with his base of operations being in New Zealand, along with his own special effects company and production facilities. Right now, I'm thinking Spielberg, Brad Bird, or J.J. Abrams.

Or maybe Terrence Malick.

...just kidding.

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Old 10-31-2012, 04:41 AM   #678
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As much as I'd love to read all 35 pages of this thread I can't right now.

Can someone just tell me how Indiana Jones is affected by this?

I read they have the rights but there are restrictions or something. Please elaborate if you can.
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You know... that really doesn't make a lick of sense on any level. It just does not make sense.

The Star Wars films and universe and characters are the original source material. So the comparison is wrong.
Original material altered = no respect for original material. Perfect comparison.

I'm just glad he finally gave up the reins.
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As much as I'd love to read all 35 pages of this thread I can't right now.

Can someone just tell me how Indiana Jones is affected by this?

I read they have the rights but there are restrictions or something. Please elaborate if you can.
Disney owns Indiana Jones lock, stock, and barrel. But Paramount owns the distribution aspect.
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